Camelot (920)

[Gwin]

Just watched it with a friend (well not in the same place, but thanks to ICQ it worked pretty good ) and wow, it blows me away every time I see it.
I love that you can't imagine the apocalypse that waits in the end, it starts as a simple explorer episode and slowly makes its way up to the climax.
John Noble does a wonderful job as a leader, than for once TPTB figured out a really brilliant way to use the whole beaming technology and made in a way fun of it. To beam the team up twice always after Daniel said that magic doesn't exist was priceless.
The scenes between Cam and Daniel were wonderful (like the one in The Fourth Horseman II), I wish TPTB would write that also in Season 10, but well...it doesn't seem so.

And the Supergate. It was a great idea that they showed the beginning of the invasion from Carter's point of view and wow, Joel Goldsmith, his score totally made this whole apocalypse.
This battle was so...different. All this despertion and despair, that there was no miracle to save them all, that they all knew they would go down and that the only reason for survival would be that their enemy wanted it that way.
In Season 9 we thought we saw the power of the Ori, but this was a demonstration...so deeply cruel and perfect, so beyond everything.

[Jill_Ion]

I'm with you, Gwin. Although it bothered me just a touch to see Sam put in a position to just stand there while all hell breaks loose (she totally kicks butt IMHO), I thought the ep overall was really cool. Nice touch to have the Team beam up, as you said, after DJ was explaining they weren't magical. And it left both me and my hub wanting to see S10. After all these years, 90% of them outside of the GW forum or any SG discussion, the show in general and this ep left me wanting more.

I listened to the commentary and understand AT was very sick when the show was taping (at least the last part), so I'm glad she didn't have a lot to do, though from what I heard, what she had to do was more than enough considering how she was feeling. As for the mud/no mud thing, it's explained in the commentary. I'm sure TPTB saw the inconsistencies, but sometimes it just has to be for time/money/etc. considerations. Annoying, maybe, but for me it's worth a giggle rather than an angry explosion.

Anyway, Gwin, I get what you said and I agree.

[Ozzy O'NeiLL]

Talk about an apocalyptic ep & season ender... I would have died if I had to wait half a year to see the end/next part of it all. I really thought they'd all get shot to hell.

And man, seeing that Supergate and all those huge, classy Ori ships... That's sci-fi for you ladies and gentlemen. Top stuff.

Yeah I watched the extra's, too, AT was indeed very ill, she couldn't even stand-up most of the time. And she had such a small but very important role...

Btw I don't know of this answer has been given already but, why didn't they try to open a wormhole themselves after the gate closed again? That was the plan wasn't it? ...

[True!Ancient]

Was it ever stated if the Asgard warship survived the big Ori invasion?

Not sure but i think landry said something about it getting wasted

[Pharaoh Atem]

you mean in camelot????

[wise one]

probaly not since vasair was helping out on the oddessy and their beaming capabilties

and his ship only took on secondary fire from the ori ship whereas the daedalus class ship took on a full beam

[Sicktem]

They made it clear that only one Lucian alliance and one Earth ship survived the battle. They never showed Kvasir's ship being destroyed, but he was on his ship during the battle and then back on the Odyssey after it was over, thus making it seemingly clear that he would've had to beam back over to save himself before his ship was destroyed.

Anyway, the comment Landry said was this; "All we know is they cut through two of our 304's, an Asgard ship, and a fleet of Goa'uld motherships." Notice he says two 304's so in this context 'cut through' doesn't necessarily mean absolutely destroyed.

[wise one]

They made it clear that only one Lucian alliance and one Earth ship survived the battle. They never showed Kvasir's ship being destroyed, but he was on his ship during the battle and then back on the Odyssey after it was over, thus making it seemingly clear that he would've had to beam back over to save himself before his ship was destroyed.

actually there were more ships that survived the battle since the oddesy had to ring serveral jaffa over and he metioned that their life support couldnt take anymore poeple.

and mitchell suggested that the ori wanted more followers so destroyng everyship there would mean no news on what happened and that how truely powerful the ori are.

[Sicktem]

actually there were more ships that survived the battle since the oddesy had to ring serveral jaffa over and he metioned that their life support couldnt take anymore poeple.

and mitchell suggested that the ori wanted more followers so destroyng everyship there would mean no news on what happened and that how truely powerful the ori are.

Parts of ships survived with enough air in them to keep them alive long enough for them to be rescued - They showed the remains around the time Mitchell wanted to bring survivors on board and it certainly wasn't anything that could fly or was in one piece.

Anyway, Mitchell said that in relation to why they left those two ships and the point was to show that despite all the destruction they wanted a very limited amount of survivors around to tell others what they had seen. Leaving a lot of survivors by not trying not to destroy more than a very limited number of ships defeats the purpose as then it makes people view it more as an organized retreat. Anyway, I'm sure they knew that the Asgard ship only had one life sign on it and thus wouldn't have been a good choice to leave behind.

[Mike1989]

Have to admit watched that episode last night after finishing the season 9 box set which i bought on thursday pretty quick but i have to admit in my opinion bets season yet i know there were complaints, or opinions that it got worse, i was even one of them people who said it was worse i believe that season 9 is the best i've seen. But this episode apart from being my favorite, i saw at the end of the battle no ships or was that just th eview you get at the end of the episode as i can't remember seeing any ships? But then not seen series 10 though.

[freyr's mother]

Anyway, the comment Landry said was this; "All we know is they cut through two of our 304's, an Asgard ship, and a fleet of Goa'uld motherships." Notice he says two 304's so in this context 'cut through' doesn't necessarily mean absolutely destroyed.

It was actually "for all we know....". The FOR implies even more uncertainty.

[Sicktem]

It was actually "for all we know....". The FOR implies even more uncertainty.

If you say so - I got that off an online transcript and didn't realize that someone would be so stupid as to copy a huge error like that.

[J_B]

Kvasir was already on Odyssey when the ships came through, they couldn't beam Carter in at the time because of interferance, so they obviously couldntt beam him back out. Thus he was stuck there, which explains about him making the repairs to the ship.

To answer the original question, it wasn't said if it was destroyed. Landry simply said that thhe Ori ships cut through two 304's, an Asgard ship and a fleet of Ha'taks.

So considering that Korolev was destrioyed, Odyssey badly damaged, Ha'taks all destroyed except for the late Lucian Alliance arrivals. Then it's probably a good bet that it was either destroyed or at least severely ass kicked. I'd go for destroyed seeing as it wasn't shown after it, even consulted or talked about by Kvasir. Then the fact that it didn't come to help out Odyssey also plays a part.

Personally I think it was destroyed myself if not for anything other that to simply show off the power of the Ori ships. Even if it wasn't, then it took a heck of a beating & probably just escaped with it's ass attached. Although most likely it will never be officially revealed. Maybe unless you jump over to JM's blog & see if he can answer did it get blown or up just handed an ass kicking!

[Blitz]

Long Answer - Yes
Short Answer - No

No body knows

[RepliHawk]

No body knows

Except the Asgard,so why doesnt earth just ask them