The Scourge (917)

[mother-goose]

i dont get everyones problem with mitchell, he's a loud brash american, lol the all american hero, i know its not sg1's style but there is no one in the command who would willingly run out shooting to try and give everyone else a chance to survive. its not that he's irresponsible (well ok sometimes ) but his acts are pretty selfless ya know, have a think about it

[Den Sethos]

Yeah right... Haven't seen the episode yet (we have to 'organize' them on this side of the Atlantic), but it has a familiar flavour...
Those pesky bugs replicating themselves by means of a bite... Rings a bell. 'Bane' anyone? Teal'c has a first hand knowledge of self replicating bugs.
Perhaps will we learn the planet in 'Bane' had been visited by a Prior and the bug there was merely a local version of the ones in 'Scourge'.

[mother-goose]

I'm so sick and tired of last second saves right before people are supposed to die. They are so predictable and overused.
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YES!!! for godsake people screw up, they use to screw up, in hero's jack got shot with a staff, and he's been had a few times, maybe let them get bit, beam them out and then have a major medical fight to stop it from happening, even atltantis has this still!

still liked the ep a lot though!

[mother-goose]

Yeah right... Haven't seen the episode yet (we have to 'organize' them on this side of the Atlantic), but it has a familiar flavour...
Those pesky bugs replicating themselves by means of a bite... Rings a bell. 'Bane' anyone? Teal'c has a first hand knowledge of self replicating bugs.
Perhaps will we learn the planet in 'Bane' had been visited by a Prior and the bug there was merely a local version of the ones in 'Scourge'.

it is actually completely different in this case, i dont think you'll be disappointed, oh and if you dont want to wait, have a look on mininova (ahem, sorry it just slipped out)

[warmbeachbrat]

OK, people need to stop compaining so much. OK, so they kinda already did something like this in "Metamorphosis", but this was still vastly different. This episode had no parallels to "The Mummy" whatsoever other than that they were bugs of some kind that eats flesh. And how many movies/TV shows haven't used that plot?

And the thing about "re-hashing": So you expect a show that's nearing the end of its 9th season in 2006 to have original plotlines that no one has ever ever seen before in any form? Get real.

These repeated mentions of The Mummy, make me glad I've never seen the movie. I'm wondering--has anyone ever been caught in or seen a swarm of locusts? How do you suppose it would compare to these critters?

[Exiled Master]

This sounds like a great opportunity to use a shotgun

[PugGate]

I won't go into what I thought of the episode, but does anyone else notice everytime they introduce a young low rank soldier they turn into redshirts? As soon as I saw the two guys leaving the base with SG-1 I was all "yep, they're totally going to die".

Yeah, why can't they have one of the grunts survive for once. It seems way too unrealistic for the main characters to always survive, but everyone else dies. We need to go back to the good ol' days. In The Tomb, one of the Russians made it back, so there is hope, maybe.

[Fargater]

Yeah, but we know O'Neill is a Star Trek fan. Teal'c is probably a Star Trek fan, having watched Star Wars more times than humanly possible (being a Jaffa) and being close friends with O'Neill. We can assume, therefore, that at some point in the last eight years, they have spent some time together watching movies or shows (O'Neill and Teal'c).
As for O'Neill, Teal'c, and Carter, together, it is possible that they did watch movies together occasionally - and we know Carter's a sucker for alien style sci-fi movies, "wanting to see how close they are to getting it right."

However, the group movie thing may be an affectionate nod to the fanfiction community, which frequently writes fanfics centered around a group out-of-base bonding activity.

They probably watched the Simpsons together too. Remember that ep where Jack`s saying how Mr. Burns is a Goa`uld and Sam`s saying she can`t see it? A serious discussion like that could only come out of watching the show together. Well maybe not together but they must have all seen the Simpsons for them to even have opinions on Burns` "Goa`uldness".

[binkpmmc]

That's too funny! I caught that too. I was like, wait, she should still have ammo because her gun was with her all the time, yet she started shooting with her 9 mm the same time the rest did.

I have to add though, I really enjoyed AT's moments in this episode. Many are saying that her realistic view is a castoff of Jack but I don't believe so. I was just watching the episode where she and Jack are stuck in Antartica and it was she who was constantly being the realist about their situation and the fact that Earth would have no way finding them through the gate. I always felt that Carter was the realist due to her scientific background.

Daniel and Shen. I didn't see any ship. A possibility yes, but not obvious ship. I saw him as having an intellectual interest in her and the fact he realized that she was important to future relations between the Chinese and American governments.

Woolsey was amazing! I love Robert Picardo. I hated how his character was an a** the last time, so I'm glad he was redeemed in at least a small way this time.

Overall, not a bad episode after a second viewing. But I just hate how "I'm" letting Mitchell ruin it for me.

I agree that Carter was great and was clearly the one that kept her head throughout and was pretty much the only one, other than Daniel, who clearly thought their situation through to come up with a viable plan to give them the best chance of getting off that planet. She clearly carries herself as the leader and in this she was so solid and so competent it was wonderful to watch, especially at the end when she came out of the tent to hold the line with the boys but she went right out front and took charge.

[binkpmmc]

Not a terrific episode, but better than a lot of season nine episodes have been.

Sam has usually carried a zat as her side-arm, ever since season two. How come all of a sudden in this episode Sam is carrying a Baretta as her sidearm?

In "Stronghold," both Sam and Cam had zats as their sidearms.

Would have been interesting to see what effect the zat might have had on the bugs, but alas, they weren't carrying Zats for THIS episode, so we didn't get to find out.

The French committee member was seen in another episode too..."Fourth Horsemen, Part 2" I think (at the conference table with Landry and others).

Interesting conversation with the Chinese committee member and Daniel. Has China unconvered their own Gate -- or created one themselves?

Morjana

IMO, plot-device, it would have been too hard to keep in line with what the characters have done for the past 6 seasons or so and they just took the easy way out and gave them handguns, even though Carter and Teal'c haven't had handguns since shortly after they found the Zats. Chalk up another one, IMO. (they did not show consistency for many, many things this year in particuar Carter in charge of SG1 and they have not really showed the relationship of the BIG 3 to be anywhere near like it was for the past 8 yeasr so why should a little thing like consistentcy with the Zat guns stop them?)

[PG15]

IMO, plot-device, it would have been too hard to keep in line with what the characters have done for the past 6 seasons or so and they just took the easy way out and gave them handguns, even though Carter and Teal'c haven't had handguns since shortly after they found the Zats. Chalk up another one, IMO. (they did not show consistency for many, many things this year in particuar Carter in charge of SG1 and they have not really showed the relationship of the BIG 3 to be anywhere near like it was for the past 8 yeasr so why should a little thing like consistentcy with the Zat guns stop them?)

As someone said above, bringing alien weapons would just make the ambassidors ask more questions (Why aren't you sharing that technology?).

Please read before criticizing.

[DEM]

Please read before criticizing.

That was one fan's speculation. A *good* explanation, yes, but not one that can be upheld as absolute fact. Therefore, neither binkpmmc nor anyone else is under obligation to hold it as The Truth.

[Uber]

As someone said above, bringing alien weapons would just make the ambassidors ask more questions (Why aren't you sharing that technology?).

Please read before criticizing.

And that might have made for a compelling point in the episode...if let's say, Mitchell leaned over and asked one of them why they weren't sporting the zats this go around and either Teal'c or Daniel or Sam told him that it was to remove the focus from the fact that they have access to alien technology.

The problem with that idea though is that they were going to an alien planet, where experiments were being performed on alien technology and agriculture, escorted by a team with an alien in its midst.

Hmm. I'm going to have to agree with bink on this one. As much as I like your idea and think it might have added another layer of depth to the strained relationship between them and the SGC, it didn't seem to be the case here as it was not addressed verbally and there were too many cues in the expedition regarding alien technology.

[Dani347]

I think going out of your way to take the focus off the fact that they have alien technology might also call more attention to it. The diplomats know the technology exists, so they might have wondered why there weren't any alien weapons. Especially why Teal'c didn't carry any.

[the fifth man]

IMO, it was convienient for the ep that they not have zat guns on them. That cut and dry. And for me, not a big problem.