Demons (308)

[gateship15]

this episodeis ok not one of my fave episodes

[Butlersgate]

the unas in this episode died alot more easily than the one in thor's hammer imo though the other one didn't have 3 staff blasts to the chest just mp-5 bullets. BUT, i like that they finally involved christianity even though it shows it's darkest side... i think it would be funny to have henry the 8th pop up in it and then get eaten by an unas that might just be me though...

[Pic]

Part of me is dismayed that Christianity is being portrayed in this negative way, but then decided that the comment about Teal'c reading the bible makes up for it.


TEAL'C I know of no Goa'uld capable of showing the necessary compassion or benevolence that I have read of in your Bible.
O'NEILL You read the Bible, Teal'c?
TEAL'C It is a significant part of your Western culture. Have you not read the Bible O'Neill?
O'NEILL Oh yeah, yeah, not all of it. Actually, I'm listening to it on tape. Don't tell me how it ends.

Of course, I also love all the snarky comments from Jack in this episode as well.

[Ulkesh47]

I thought the ring was Anceint Tech. But it's actually Gau'uld tech for the people who had question about his ring.

I agree that it looks like Goa'uld tech. It looks just like that little Za'tarc laser gun from "Divide and Conquer".

[Butlersgate]

I agree that it looks like Goa'uld tech. It looks just like that little Za'tarc laser gun from "Divide and Conquer".

do they bring that back in later episodes? i can't remember if they do or not, it is a niffty little device. both the lightning ring and za'tarc gun

[The Stig]

i didnlt like this episode. it didn't really have a point to it.

[Ulkesh47]

do they bring that back in later episodes? i can't remember if they do or not, it is a niffty little device. both the lightning ring and za'tarc gun

I believe that Vala has something similar in "Prometheus Unbound".

[drewandian]

wow...um...ok....i'm probably reading alot more into this episode than i should but i can't help it. i think i'm in the minority here, but i really like this episode (even though i thought it was a little slow...). some ppl have mentioned that they didn't think this episode wasn't about anything, but imo it was about a lot. we get more insight into Sokar, the first Goa'uld (at least to my knowledge) to adopt a Biblical figure rather than a mythological one, to impersonate. kudos to TPTB for presenting a story based on Christianity (it can get pretty controversial when we have stories like these....mythology just seems a lot safer and less...i dunno...likely to offend i guess....) some posts mention that this episode presented christianity 'in a bad light' and i don't really see that (yes, i'm a christian). i think it accurately portrayed christianity in the dark ages...sure things are a little different now, but i think they did well to show how things had been. not to mention, not all religious leaders even today are all that noble or spiritual, some tend to use the power they have as a spiritual leader to control "their ppl" or in their favor, just as the canon did. as to the comments about why didn't sg1 do anything right away or just leave or when did they become so incompetent...here's what i think:
they didn't just leave b/c these ppl needed help or they'd just keep being sacrificed to Sokar and that's unacceptable. they did just kill the unas right away b/c the villagers were already scared half to death and shooting an unas in the middle of the town square wouldn't really help. plus, the unas was only part of the problem...they'd still have to deal with the village canon AND figure out a way to keep Sokar from coming and seeking revenge. and killing the unas w/out getting through to canon would not stop the sacrifices.... and i don't know that they were being incompetent...there was a lot at stake (the whole village) and more than one problem to solve....

i think this episode was, in a way, about faith...and teaching the villagers to kinda take control of their own destinies (like i said, i may have read a lot more into this than was there....) it was more than just coming, kicking goa'uld/unas butt and leaving.....


ok...done rambling.....hope SOMEONE out there can follow this (it made sense to me in my head anyway! )

[WishIwasJoes]

This episode seemed to be all over the map to me. Setting was typical Dark Ages, it was interesting that we see some christians on a planet but the things get a little funky. I found Simon and Mary both annoying. Also what does a town of dark age folk have with a powerful ring? Yeah it was a gift from the last cannon but can we please hear more from that. With that ring, not with the religion, the cannon held the town in his clutches. Great so a ring replaces burnings big deal? Not that creative. Although I found it really cool to know that Teal'c read the bible.

2/10

[Descent]

I found this to be one of the most frustrating episodes in SG-1 history. The village/people that were stuck in the dark ages and what they did to Teal'c... just didn't do it for me. It's one of the few SG-1 episodes that I will probably never rewatch again.

[Coela Bellatore]

I found this to be one of the most frustrating episodes in SG-1 history. The village/people that were stuck in the dark ages and what they did to Teal'c... just didn't do it for me. It's one of the few SG-1 episodes that I will probably never rewatch again.

Same, there were also so many times that SG-1 could have quoted from scripture about forgiveness or love or even Jesus rising from the dead in Teal'C's case but I guess none of them ever actually read the bible.

[Blackadder]

Actually the whole concept of the "dark ages" is very controversial among contemporary historians, and a lot of the things that "everyone knows" about the medieval times are flat out wrong.

Some links:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dark_Ages

http://listverse.com/2009/01/07/top-...e-middle-ages/

http://departments.kings.edu/womens_...r.html#cruelty

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Science...s#Dark_Ages.3F

The stereotype of the entire Middle Ages as a "Dark Age" supposedly caused by the Christian Church for allegedly "placing the word of religious authorities over personal experience and rational activity" is called a caricature by the contemporary historians of science David Lindberg and Ronald Numbers[46], who say "the late medieval scholar rarely experienced the coercive power of the church and would have regarded himself as free (particularly in the natural sciences) to follow reason and observation wherever they led. There was no warfare between science and the church".[47] Historian Edward Grant writes: "If revolutionary rational thoughts were expressed in the Age of Reason [the 18th century], they were only made possible because of the long medieval tradition that established the use of reason as one of the most important of human activities".[48]

It was enjoyable to see more of the Unas though!

[danny.d]

I found this to be one of the most frustrating episodes in SG-1 history. The village/people that were stuck in the dark ages and what they did to Teal'c... just didn't do it for me. It's one of the few SG-1 episodes that I will probably never rewatch again.

ever heard of the inquisition?
belive me there are much worse things that the church has done in the middle ages in the name of God, teal'c can count himself lucky that he was not burned alive or something like that

[mrscopterdoc]

An okay episode nothing special but good to see the Unas again.

[Wiz3000]

TEAL'C I know of no Goa'uld capable of showing the necessary compassion or benevolence that I have read of in your Bible.

Anyone else felt this was just in there to sort of suck up to the audience who is to a large part christian?
I didn't like it at all.

Another thing I was wondering about was this gate burying thing. To me those gates look pretty sturdy there on their stone platforms. Wouldn't it be pretty hard for a medieval society to dislodge it and bury it?