The Cam and Vala discussion thread

[david2708]

True for Ben Browder (probably), false for Claudia Black. As you remember, Vala was first introduced in season 8 - Prometheus Unbound episode. Claudia said in the interview that originally they wanted another actress for that episode, but she wasn't available, so they offered her the part (after offering her another guest roles in the past, without any success because Claudia was busy doing something else).

And from what she's said, she was given free reign to do watever she liked with the role.

[david2708]

What are you talking about? The ratings which made the funders decide to renew for another season? Those ratings?

Go on then, knock us all out. List all the ratings which you think matter more.

{snip}

*laughs at your implying that I need to chill* Perhaps you missed my post where I enouraged you to keep going {snip}

And the funders commission DVD movies without regard to the Scifi channels influence.

[Farscapefan]

And from what she's said, she was given free reign to do watever she liked with the role.

Which is great I remember Michael Shanks saying in one of his interviews last year that Claudia brought a lot of ideas to the table.

[david2708]

Which is great I remember Michael Shanks saying in one of his interviews last year that Claudia brought a lot of ideas to the table.

Did you know Claudia sings one of the tracks on Paul Goddard's(Stark) album.www.colemansmith.net it plays as one of the random selections. The track is called groovy.

[Farscapefan]

Did you know Claudia sings one of the tracks on Paul Goddard's(Stark) album.

Yup, I've bought "Move" several months ago and "Groovy" (the song performed by Claudia) is one of my fav tracks on this album. Paul said he would love to record the whole album with Claudia, so who knows what future holds?

[david2708]

Yup, I've bought "Move" several months ago and "Groovy" (the song performed by Claudia) is one of my fav tracks on this album. Paul said he would love to record the whole album with Claudia, so who knows what future holds?

I shall ask him about that

[Farscapefan]

I shall ask him about that

Really?

[david2708]

Really?

Well, not for a week or two. They're all off to some Farscape convention in the states this or next week.

[Farscapefan]

Well, not for a week or two. They're all off to some Farscape convention in the states this or next week.

Next. And unfortunately it's THE LAST official Farscape convention organized by Creation.

ETA: wrong. This week, as the con starts Nov 3rd.

[scarimor]

And the funders commission DVD movies...

Not going to give us that list of ratings then, huh? Thought not. A poor attempt to duck the very thing you were called on, that. About as sophisticated as your {Snip} attempts at gender mockery, which fell so flat because none of the girlies here have been posting calls for the halcyon days when Colonel Jack O'Neill was a new age house-husband and SG-1 sat around the briefing table wailing about failing relationships and comparing knitting patterns.

Satire requires just a bit of skill, david. As does evading answering a dubious piece of "guesswork" that you've been called on. {snip}.

[Crow T. Robot]

MITCHELL
Oh, I know I can't control her. But that's pretty much par for the course. Sir…Carter and I are the same rank. Teal'c's an alien. Jackson's a civilian. I learned a long time ago, I don't "control" anything.

Military speak for: I don’t have what it takes to do this job and lead this team effectively. Reassign me please.

Like I said a gutless attempt by the writers to please everyone and not piss off the Sam fans by “officially” demoting her for no logical reason.

[Crow T. Robot]

i think it's not so much as Sam isn't leadership material as more it comes to down to who has that 'it' factor that can carry a show. RDA had that for 5 seasons before he lost interest.

I think you’re missing the point that a lot of people are trying to make here.

B.B. could have still been the “lead” of the show and Sam could have led the team at the SAME time. It’s like saying that RDA wasn’t the show’s lead and Don Dean was because Hammond was in command. O’Neill answered to Hammond BUT without a doubt RDA was the “Lead” of the show.

I think that’s what a lot of fans are mad about. And saying they couldn’t leave Sam in charge of the team and made Ben the lead doesn’t work because of how they wrote Hammond and O’Neill for years.

[Farscapefan]

Oh, nooooo. Take this {snip} command argument to the thread it's been discussed for ages!!!

[ACharmedAsgard]

I don't know where I saw or heard it, maybe it was in an episode in the last season. But I remember Mitchell at one point talking about how he couldn't command Daniel because he was a civilian, couldn't command Teal'c because he was a member of the Jaffa council and an alien, and that he couldn't command Sam because they were the same rank.

Actually, this was "Insiders" episode:

INT—SGC CORRIDOR, LEVEL 28

[Landry and Mitchell step out of an elevator and start walking down the corridor.]

LANDRY
You sure you want to bring her (Vala) along on this one?

MITCHELL
Jackson says she'll be useful. Now's her chance to prove it.

LANDRY
But Dr. Jackson isn't here, and it seems to me, he's the only one she ever listens to.

MITCHELL
(hesitantly)
Yeah…some of the time.

LANDRY
You don't think you can control her?

MITCHELL
Oh, I know I can't control her. But that's pretty much par for the course. Sir…Carter and I are the same rank. Teal'c's an alien. Jackson's a civilian. I learned a long time ago, I don't "control" anything.

LANDRY
Who does?

AHA! I knew I heard right!!!!!!!

I didn't remember where I got it from, and so didn't want to say I heard it if it wasn't actually said, but that just proved I was right! thanks Farscapefan !!!!!!

[RepliCartertje]

Oh, nooooo. Take this {snip} command argument to the thread it's been discussed for ages!!!

Yeah why argue any further eh...I mean you are right and we are wrong...

Vala is the best character ever made up by the writers...Mitchell is the hero who everyone wants to be and well the old team...lets face it everyone...they are just some accuring characters who actually are stupid and boring /sarcasm