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Originally posted by JanusAncient View PostIt doesn't have to be Project Arcturus exactly, it could just be a better more efficient zpm, one that doesn't run out after a few month's of being used.sigpic"Most of our John Sheppard impressions sound more like a demented Jimmy Stewart than Joe Flanigan."
~David Hewlett
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Originally posted by JanusAncient View PostThis is all wrong, ascended beings have access to infinite knowledge, and they don't have to be physical to beings to be able to research something like Arcturus. The Ori had millions of years to research something on the ascended plane. Merlin had the knowledge to kill ascended beings when he descended, he only needed to figure out how to apply it to the physical plane. And, wasn't it already stated somewhere by the writer's that the Ori were aware of the Pegasus galaxy already, before they met Daniel.
Originally posted by AbyssScene: Jack's Cell
Jack: "So...you wanna be my Oma?"
Daniel: "You could put it that way, I mean, I wouldn't, but maybe that's just me."
Jack: "And then what?"
Daniel: "Then...then I don't know."
Jack: "You don't know."
Daniel: "No...no...ascension doesn't make you all-knowing. I mean, I really...don't know."Originally posted by Full CircleO’NEILL: Why don’t they try to stop her?
DANIEL: I don’t know.
O’NEILL: You don’t know?
DANIEL: No I don’t know. All I know is what Oma has taught me. Ascension doesn’t make you all knowing or all powerful. It is just the beginning of the journey. The point is, if I were to help you, if I were to take any action to help you, Oma would step in and stop me herself to avoid drawing the wrath of the Others. If they wanted to, they could stop everything she’s been trying to do for a long time.
Originally posted by AbyssDaniel: "Right now, I can't imagine doing or being anything other than what I am. I see things, I understand things, in a way I never could have before.
Originally posted by Sicktem View PostAscended knowledge appears to work in a way similiar to Rodney's mental evolution in Tao of Rodney, but on a greater level. As your brain evolves to the point where it can hold all the knowledge of the universe you begin to see things in a different light. You still don't gain any new knowledge without new experiences, (experiences include interacting/sharing with other ascended beings) but you can suddenly think complicated ideas through in a matter of seconds (minutes or hours for evolved Rodney). You still need creative people to think up an original idea, but once that idea comes to you following through with it will be a piece of cake since you suddenly have the ability to understand how the universe works at it's most basic principles.
People STOP thinking the ascended knows everything it has been counterstated tons and tons of times on the show, I really dont know why you still think that.
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Originally posted by JanusAncient View PostIt doesn't have to be Project Arcturus exactly, it could just be a better more efficient zpm, one that doesn't run out after a few month's of being used.
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Originally posted by Mitchell82 View PostI too feel it is similar to Arcturus but it's very possible they (ori) were able to concieve a version better than the one the Ancients were "trying" to concieve but ultimately failed at.
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Unlimited power or no there would still be a limit to how fast that power can travel to its systems. Take a ZPM powered Earth ship for example. Is it's shield as power as Atlantis with one ZPM? No, because Atlantis is designed to channel massive amounts of power quickly throughout the city and because there's something to be said for the shield design itself (power over a poor design does not make a shield indestructable).
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Even with Arcturus that Ancient satellite didn't have unlimited power, access to it yes, but it was unlimited. And, that's the difference having access to limitless power isn't the same as being limitlessly powerful. So, an Ori ship could have a Project Arcturus, but it isn't going to be indestructible, ostensibly probably.
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Unlimited energy!!! People, don't confuse energy with power. Power is how much energy you use (or channel) per second. Power = rate of energy usage. Energy = how much juice your battery has. A power source produces energy at a rate called power. Power is to speed as energy is to distance. Sorry, just a pet peeve of mine...
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Let me put to rest the idea that Ascended being get free knowledge:
Daniel- Ascended Daniel- found a tablet that talked about Atlantis in "Full Circle"; except he had no idea about what Atlantis was or where it could be found. He just didn't know anything but what the tablet said about a lost city.
Ascended are not omnipotent, I think they simply have "access" to knowledge but they still have to seek it.
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