Wraith vs Ori?

[WraithWarrior]

Ahh, yes, i miss read a previous post.

Zats have no effect on Kull armour, and i assume wraith stun would be equally useless...

Its ok and yes unless the Wraith created a antilife machine, which I doubt they'd know how

[Buba uognarf]

the wraith wouldn't have to fight them the darts could jsut scoop them up...no more kull warriors there armour doesn't protect them from being transported...even so the commander wraith are stronger than they are(well probably are) i haven't seen the kull demonstarte the same strength the wraith have...

[WraithWarrior]

the wraith wouldn't have to fight them the darts could jsut scoop them up...no more kull warriors there armour doesn't protect them from being transported...even so the commander wraith are stronger than they are(well probably are) i haven't seen the kull demonstarte the same strength the wraith have...

The kull warriors were just a creation to replace most of the Jaffa in Anubis' army, they are more reliable and a lot stronger and more invincible than the Jaffa are. They were not created to command armies but just to serve in armies. Im not sure but the kull armour may protect against the Wraith trying to feed off them (if it didnt then it wouldnt take long for a Wraith to feed off the kull as they are only created to last for so long (a couple of weeks at most I think)

[PG15]

no offence ment to anyone but please shut up with the ancients were poor tacticians and passivists they wouldn't drone tech and warships if they were passivists they wouldn't have had dozens of defence satelites if they were passivists they wouldn't have fought a losing war for 100 years if they were passivists no one has any basis for saying the ancients couldn't fight...maybe the wraith are great strategists they've should they can be quite cunning when working towards their goals...
the ori aren't invincable ha'taks and bc-304s have crap weapons the nukes didn't even detonate on impact aginst the shields the wraith have much greater range and their weapons are more powerful and fire faster i'd say a hive shield could probably pump out as much fire power as 3 ha'taks in an all out war if food wasn't a problem then the wraith would win all this @#it about the ori shields being invincible is unfounded they held against the MW but that doesn't been they could hold against this...

Yes. They. Can.

One shot from an Ori death beam. That's all it takes. (and don't forget we had waay more tha 3 Hataks in Camelot).

[Ouroboros]

They've got nothing to protect them from the dartvac attack though, and their limited cunning and enslaved minds probably means they'd fall for the mind tricks big time.

[nightowl300]

I would say the Ori would win, unless there were 100 wraith hive ships firing on one Ori ship.

[Freekzilla]

Then how come the Jaffa go down like flies when shot by them?

I was talking about the Kull Warrior armour, not the Jaffa armour. The Kull warriors wore those black suits. It's what Vala was wearing when she "borrowed" the Prometheus. It was only after she was down to her "thermal underwear" that the Zat affected her.

[Buba uognarf]

I would say the Ori would win, unless there were 100 wraith hive ships firing on one Ori ship.

complete bull#@&t...you're over estimating the ori and under estimating the wraith...the ori would be dead in a second with hundred hives firing on it...unless they're powered by Z.P.Ms in whick case they'd be completely unstopable and stargate would be a joke...

Yes. They. Can.

One shot from an Ori death beam. That's all it takes. (and don't forget we had waay more tha 3 Hataks in Camelot).

no they can't the ships didn't take even half that much fire in camelot the ships weren't focusing on a single ship you see the picture? thats after a second of firing,it take say 5-10 seconds to fire the beam weapon and the hive is so big i doubt it'll go down in one shot,firstly its 7 times larger than a ha'tak and it's heavily armoured which is a bonus against a seemingly shield piercing weapon...non of these ridiculas and completely baseless statements of an ori ship taking on 100 hives if they could do that then everyone may aswell start praying to ori because no force in the universe could stop even one of their ships...(and i realise i have no basis for my statement about 4 hives to an ori ship but i think thats a reasonable estimate

[kirmit]

no they can't the ships didn't take even half that much fire in camelot the ships weren't focusing on a single ship you see the picture? thats after a second of firing,it take say 5-10 seconds to fire the beam weapon and the hive is so big i doubt it'll go down in one shot,firstly its 7 times larger than a ha'tak and it's heavily armoured which is a bonus against a seemingly shield piercing weapon...non of these ridiculas and completely baseless statements of an ori ship taking on 100 hives if they could do that then everyone may aswell start praying to ori because no force in the universe could stop even one of their ships...(and i realise i have no basis for my statement about 4 hives to an ori ship but i think thats a reasonable estimate

well dont forget about the ori's secondary fire, that only took I think 2 or 3 shots to take out a ha'tak, if they focus them on the hive between each main beam canon fire then i think they'd take out a alot more than 4 hives, granted 100 hives would be a silly amount for a single ori ship to take out.

[Buba uognarf]

the secondary canons are strong but they don't seem to have that much range and they also don't seem to be in the forward fring arch

[kirmit]

the secondary canons are strong but they don't seem to have that much range and they also don't seem to be in the forward fring arch

well we havent really had a chance to see them fire from a distance but if goa'uld weapons can be fired from orbit I'm sure ori weapons can go alot further, also I sure they can be manuovered to fire forwards when nned be but this is only speculation.

[IcyNeko]

ENTER KEY, DO YOU USE IT?

the ori aren't invincable ha'taks and bc-304s have crap weapons the nukes didn't even detonate on impact aginst the shields

Err, yeah. Clearly if you were a commander of a submarine, the US would be defenseless. They unlock teh safeties when they launched the missiles. You don't launch a missile at an enemy and set it to explode with a remote detonator. Also, from last night's show, the ori shield held against two gatebusters. It was only when the event horizon flared that the Ori ship was destroyed. Thanks for trying, but your run-on paragraph defense holds no water.

the wraith have much greater range and their weapons are more powerful and fire faster i'd say a hive shield could probably pump out as much fire power as 3 ha'taks in an all out war

If you're using the 304's as a measure of how strong the wraith weapons are, you're rather funny. Hataks could damage our 304's. Wraith can damage our 304's.

Heck, daedalus sat in direct fire of 10 hive ships and their escorts for a bit of time before they had to flee. Hataks can do a decent amount of damage to our ships, in far less numbers. 10 hiev ships and their escorts are quite a number of ships... maybe 10 hives + 10 Cruisers + 1000 darts.. that's a ton of firepower... yet the Daedalus's shields held for a while. I'm not sure if the Odyssey could take the Lucian alliance, which has less than that many ships.

Ori cruisers can destroy 304's with a couple of shots from their main cannons. It takes a while for a single hive to do the same amount of damage to a 304.

So again, tahnsk for trying. Learn to use the enter key.

[kirmit]

Also, from last night's show, the ori shield held against two gatebusters. It was only when the event horizon flared that the Ori ship was destroyed

I think that was two gate busters plus the wraith ship explosion

[Wraith23]

Yes. They. Can.

One shot from an Ori death beam. That's all it takes. (and don't forget we had waay more tha 3 Hataks in Camelot).

Pure speculation

[Wraith23]

Heck, daedalus sat in direct fire of 10 hive ships and their escorts for a bit of time before they had to flee. Hataks can do a decent amount of damage to our ships, in far less numbers. 10 hiev ships and their escorts are quite a number of ships... maybe 10 hives + 10 Cruisers + 1000 darts.. that's a ton of firepower... yet the Daedalus's shields held for a while. I'm not sure if the Odyssey could take the Lucian alliance, which has less than that many ships.

Ori cruisers can destroy 304's with a couple of shots from their main cannons. It takes a while for a single hive to do the same amount of damage to a 304.

Ok, I think you are wrong, in that battle were mostly the cruisers escorting the hives the ones that open fire and in the next scene Sheppard makes it very clear that the Wraith are not trying to destroy the daedalus but to board it he evens says that is their usual strategy.