Daniel Jackson/Vala Mal Doran Ship/Discussion/Appreciation Thread

[LittleMissJigsaw]

But it's not speaking Geek... It's speaking FIC ... I know geeks who look at fic!speak, and go "...what?"

as for Vala in fic... I never touched on the language thing.

[SpacedOutAgain]

Hahaha. "meh" is just that... meh... Know how when someone asks you if you've have a good day, and you haven't, but it hasn't really been a BAD day either... It was just sort of... Meh

PWP= Porn Without Plot (alternately: Plot, What Plot?... but mostly it means Porn Without Plot)

OOC yes, is Out of Character. IC is In Character. I'd think a fic-reader would know these Then again, there are a lot.... off the top of my head: OOC, IC, PWP, Slash, Het, non-con, dub-con, first time fic, H/C, fluff, FWP, Crack!fic, First Time Fic, Pre-slash, Pre-het, Gen, future!fic, AU, Sex-pollen!fic, kink!fic, Coda, Missing Scene, Episode Tag, Fix-it!fic, Not Dead Fic, Death!fic, genderswitch, Kid!fic, pre-series...

Fandom specific ones are fun, too I dunno all the specific ones for SG-1, but some of SPNs are fun: fallen!Cas, Wing!fic, Wing!porn, Awesome!Sam, Pie!fic, angel!Dean, angel!Sam, handprint!porn, BAMF!Cas, Michael!fic, Lucifer!fic, Angelcest (alternately: Wing!cest), Wincest, Godcest, Demon!Cas, Demon!Sam, Demon!Dean, Hell!fic, Heaven!Fic, Smith & Wesson Verse, Trickster Made Them Do It fic, Vessel!fic, dark!Dean, evil!Sam, Impala!love...

Someone should find a list of all the SG-1 specific fic tags. I'm sure those would be entertaining to read

Well!! I learned alot today!
wasnt as Geeky as I thought I was!
Thank you Kelly! you can teach us geeky slang anytime!



Oh!Oh!! big thought!

So, what say we go on a fic hunt? a post Continuum fic hunt with all the usual angst and 'fun' along the way?

I can start my search tomorrow??

As that fic above was the only one I have come across so far as alot of other fics have overkilled the 'Unending' scene, but I do still like to read em'.

shall we?

[LittleMissJigsaw]

Does this mean I have an excuse to type up all the meanings? 'cause I love doing that

I present Kelly's Guide to Understanding Fic Tags ()

Spoiler:

OOC: Out of Character
IC: In Character
PWP: Porn Without Plot (Plot, What Plot?)
Slash: Guy/Guy
Femslash: Girl/Girl
Het: Guy/Girl
non-con: non-consensual sex/touching/kissing etc... effectively: rape
dub-con: dubious consent (if drugs/alcohol/magic/etc is involved in the sex/what have you)
first time fic: self-explantory; first roll in the hay for your chosen pairing.
H/C: Hurt/Comfort
fluff: Sugary-sweet things that can either be awesome, or kill you dead from sweet overdose
FWP: Fluff Without Plot (see the 'kill you dead' thing)
Crack!fic: Humor!fic that's completely out there, and would never happen, ever.
Pre-slash/femslash/het: potential is being realized, but the pairing isn't quite there yet
Gen: No pairings to be seen, it's just about the characters/plot
future!fic: Self explanatory.
AU: Alternate Universe
Sex-pollen!fic: would fall under dub-con, but specifically involving a plant/monster venom that makes the sexing start
kink!fic: Specific kinks that have been requested, and the fic is a result
Coda: an interpretation of a scene (or an addition to a scene)
Missing Scene: a missing scene from an episode
Episode Tag: tacking on an extra scene to the end of an episode
Fix-it!fic: Something happened that you didn't like? These fix it.
Not Dead Fic: Character specific form of fix-it fic
Death!fic: Sometimes, we just like to kill them off
genderswitch: What if A was a girl? What if B was a guy? (these are hilarious if they're from a A is still a guy, but got turned into a girl and now must deal with it standpoint... A has always been a girl, was never a guy, isn't as much fun)
Kid!fic: any fic involving the pairing having kids
pre-series: self explanatory.
Highschool/University!AU: specific AU for scenarios involving highschool/college (other specific AUs are: vampires, zombie apocalypse, and kid!AU)
Fusion!Fic: Fusing two fandoms together... Example: What if Castiel was an Archaeologist in the employ of the SGC, and Dean Winchester was the space pirate who annoys him... or what if Vala Mal Doran was a demon hunter, and Daniel Jackson was the rogue angel who's helping her avert the apocalypse)
RPF: Real Person Fiction... Like, say someone wrote a Claudia/Michael fic (...I don't go near these. Ever.)

That's all I can think of right now. I know there's more though. Even more if you went into fandom specific ones. But that would get a little long.

[SpacedOutAgain]

wow! flamin eck!

there are oodles of them!

I am going to copy them for future ref!!

Oh I found a 'missing scene' little fic..

From AoT

right here - Check it out!

[LC_]

Good luck, everybody on your tests and papers and whatnot!

And sorry, Milena. I haven't seen any DeVilish Continuum fics that I can think of. Lots of Unending fics, lots of post Unending fics. But I can't seem to find any of the year that never was. And I'm not brave enough to write it. Maybe with lots more practice under my belt.

I have one that is series of entries from Daniel's journal for that year...it's been put on hold because of RL and I feel guilty enough about the lack of progress with 'best' and 'overture' I do not need to add a third,lol
It is strictly Daniel's POV...hadn't thought about how to do anything solely DV for the time frame of the movie since they're not together for most of the movie.
I also started, a 'tag' at one point to try to explain what I thought, logically, should've happened to the host and also Daniel's uncharacteristic lack of compassion for the host...but decided to not continue because someone gave me a reasonable explanation as to why the host survived when I figured the host should've died like Apophis's did.

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Its funny, when searching for fics as FF has been read to death...

the site's that I've come across. So not everyone leaves their work on FF or Helio..

[LittleMissJigsaw]

I find most of my fic on LJ anymore, Space. I've found there's a reason FF.net is called The Pit by most people... You can find good fic, but it's difficult, because you have to wade through all the tons of bad fic.

LJ has it's share of bad fic, but if you stick to rec lists of people you know have good taste, you generally have good luck... If you stick to pairing specific comms, you can generally get a feel for which authors are good, and which authors aren't, and you can thus click on links accordingly... A bonus is that the comms aren't just for fic, and you get to see lots of meta/speculation, artwork, videos, etc. (and you can eventually learn which artists are good as well, and which people DON'T have incredibly whacked theories that make you go "...Um, why?")

[SpacedOutAgain]

Yeah I like LJ for the fic too, Its much better and update more often and has fantastic icons too that the peeps make!

[SpacedOutAgain]

Hey everyone! I forgot to ask!!

When you post something here can you rate the thread for me?
the tab is just above the thread there ... up there *points*

thanks a bunch!! x

[yessika]

Hey everyone! I forgot to ask!!

When you post something here can you rate the thread for me?
the tab is just above the thread there ... up there *points*

thanks a bunch!! x

I've rated it!

[SpacedOutAgain]

thank you!! we do what we can for our thread!!

and oooooo!! nice siggy!!

gonna go and green you for that if I can!!



*goes to the green button down there on the left*

<---- there. sort of.

[LC_]

As for that fic... Meh. Felt OOC to me... Couldn't get into it. I like my porn with good characterization. (of course, I acknowledge that characterization is highly subjective.)

...And now I'm reminded of all those author's notes where people say: OOC, but who cares, it's just PWP. Always makes me want to head/desk. This is something that comes up on FFrants often. Just 'cause it's plotless sex doesn't mean the characters shouldn't be recognizable.

I can never find any IC Jack/Sam PWP... D/V is hard to find as well... Don't think I've EVER come across a John/Teyla PWP...

I was gonna bold this whole thing but then I thought that might be a bit much,lol
Suffice to say I'm with ya 100% Kelly.
First and foremost I want stuff IC.
Anything else annoys me...this especially goes for making something 'slash' when that type of relationship never existed in the first place...if you wanna write slash for the chick in SGU who is blatantly gay then knock yourself out but otherwise don't do that to characters who weren't created that way to being with.
I didn't used to get why some professional writers(like "Nora" for instance) wouldn't allow their work to be used by fanfic writers...my first reaction was that they were being arrogant..."I don't want my characters lowered to that level" kinda thing.
But now I get it...
Believable, complicated, interesting characters are hard to create(I know I've tried which is why I write DV because they are way better than anything I've ever come up with) and really, after you've spent all that time and effort creating such great characters would you want someone, who hasn't much of a clue about the blood and sweat that went into the creation coming along and twisting them around like Barbie dolls into some weird configuration that isn't 'right' for them.
It'd be like someone coming into your house and saying..."hey the people living here are kinda cool but I'd like it even better if they were like this, so that I can fufill my own fantasies".

And yeah I know I've probably just offended a whole lot of people but...I just had to get that off my chest.
Rant over.

[Kath Pup]

So..anyone remember epically HUGE reply posts? No? Well this is one of them

Oh, one of these?

You are one of great wisdom *nods*

And don't you forget it, whippersnapper!

Now off to school for my final exam! Have a good day everyone!

This really isn't the time to point out I finished at Christmas and am now just kicking back and waiting on being smacked across the head with a bonnet?

Oh I adored 10/Rose it all of its angsty glory, hard to find quality fic for these two though.

Really? You must be looking in the wrong places, cause I've found plenty. If you've seen Blackpool then I have the most amazing rec for you. And if you haven't, you need to. David Tennant and David Morrissey tangoing and singing along to These Boots Are Made For Walking? No. Words.

CAT!! *tackles*

DOG PILE!

What? I don't like being left out!

Oh sweet, monster posts *pets*

*feeds*

And Uni *and* work? 'Tis of the crappiness. You're not even near the end of your semester are you? Cuz you guys have a different system yeah?

I did that for three years. There are days when I wonder how I didn't manage to fail my degree entirely.

Hello fruitcakes!!

Test went well (I think) and I wish luck to all of you taking finals already. My finals start in two weeks *bites nails*

I'm sure it went brilliantly! As will your finals!

I now have the image of them running and singing "We're men, we're men in kilts!" to the tun of "Men in Tights"

...No, I have no idea what my brain is doing. Why do you ask?

You know, I think this calls for pics of hot men in kilts. Just, you know, cause.

EDIT: and because I just found this... have some OT pretty...

Two thumbs way up!

Pfft, as if being under 18 is going to stop anyone...

...Well, it never stopped me...

It was lack of ID that scuppered me before I was legal!

Does this mean I have an excuse to type up all the meanings? 'cause I love doing that

I present Kelly's Guide to Understanding Fic Tags ()

Spoiler:

OOC: Out of Character
IC: In Character
PWP: Porn Without Plot (Plot, What Plot?)
Slash: Guy/Guy
Femslash: Girl/Girl
Het: Guy/Girl
non-con: non-consensual sex/touching/kissing etc... effectively: rape
dub-con: dubious consent (if drugs/alcohol/magic/etc is involved in the sex/what have you)
first time fic: self-explantory; first roll in the hay for your chosen pairing.
H/C: Hurt/Comfort
fluff: Sugary-sweet things that can either be awesome, or kill you dead from sweet overdose
FWP: Fluff Without Plot (see the 'kill you dead' thing)
Crack!fic: Humor!fic that's completely out there, and would never happen, ever.
Pre-slash/femslash/het: potential is being realized, but the pairing isn't quite there yet
Gen: No pairings to be seen, it's just about the characters/plot
future!fic: Self explanatory.
AU: Alternate Universe
Sex-pollen!fic: would fall under dub-con, but specifically involving a plant/monster venom that makes the sexing start
kink!fic: Specific kinks that have been requested, and the fic is a result
Coda: an interpretation of a scene (or an addition to a scene)
Missing Scene: a missing scene from an episode
Episode Tag: tacking on an extra scene to the end of an episode
Fix-it!fic: Something happened that you didn't like? These fix it.
Not Dead Fic: Character specific form of fix-it fic
Death!fic: Sometimes, we just like to kill them off
genderswitch: What if A was a girl? What if B was a guy? (these are hilarious if they're from a A is still a guy, but got turned into a girl and now must deal with it standpoint... A has always been a girl, was never a guy, isn't as much fun)
Kid!fic: any fic involving the pairing having kids
pre-series: self explanatory.
Highschool/University!AU: specific AU for scenarios involving highschool/college (other specific AUs are: vampires, zombie apocalypse, and kid!AU)
Fusion!Fic: Fusing two fandoms together... Example: What if Castiel was an Archaeologist in the employ of the SGC, and Dean Winchester was the space pirate who annoys him... or what if Vala Mal Doran was a demon hunter, and Daniel Jackson was the rogue angel who's helping her avert the apocalypse)
RPF: Real Person Fiction... Like, say someone wrote a Claudia/Michael fic (...I don't go near these. Ever.)

That's all I can think of right now. I know there's more though. Even more if you went into fandom specific ones. But that would get a little long.

See this? This is useful!

[LC_]

wow! flamin eck!

there are oodles of them!

I am going to copy them for future ref!!

Oh I found a 'missing scene' little fic..

From AoT

right here - Check it out!

Hey thanks...that was pretty good.
Wonder why 'whisper' never posted that at AD?

[yessika]

thank you!! we do what we can for our thread!!

and oooooo!! nice siggy!!

gonna go and green you for that if I can!!



*goes to the green button down there on the left*

<---- there. sort of.

*wonders which sig is Space referring to* I wasn't paying attention

All the fic lingo is awesome, although I already knew about half of them