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HOLY CRAP! Can't wait for this! Looks like she just has a small supporting role thoughOriginally posted by djay View Post
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One of my favourite scenes from Dominion.
Thanks to Wendy for the caps.
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Hi, just a 'post and run' while I got a minute.
Everyone read the latest chapter(that would be chapter 11) of this:
http://www.fanfiction.net/s/3557630/1/Being_Found
THE BEST 'issues disclosure/confrontation' I have ever read...followed by some lovely 'snuggly' stuff.
Wish I could pull it off as well
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I agree... *sigh* ... I totally agree!Originally posted by Stef View Postsigpic
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What the heck is that on the tee shirt on his right shoulder? That has bugged me for weeks trying to figiure that out.Originally posted by gioia View Post
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Ok you are not alone in your confusion about PP. Ilove it to bits but no other episode in the entire series sets me ranting like PP. Yes I do mena this one out of all 214 episodes. You know the two things that tip me over the edge are so small as to be almost insignificant but they drive me up the wall.Originally posted by Stef View PostSee, those are valid points. In my head, I know that they were great episodes....but for some reason I just don't connect to them in the same way that I do to all of the other ones. Hence, why I like "Uninvited" more than PP or "Counterstrike" (BLASPHEMY!!!!!). There are definite moments in each that I like though....in PP: the balcony, Daniel going off on Morgan, explosions, SGA meets SG-1, Rodney/Cam...in Counterstrike: Sha're discussion and Adria's entrance. I'm a freak, aren't I? I'm probably the only person on this board who didn't love PP Maybe I should see a doctor. And I can't even blame it on a lack of D/V.....because there was some. But I also love episodes that have NO DV, so I know it's not just me being narrow-minded. Bleh. Doesn't someone out there somewhere share my confusion?!
This is why I would be chatting up a storm in this theoretical thread for confused opinions.
Can't wait to see what you have to say, DJgirl!
I feel like I should be doing something...oh, that's right, packing up for my big move on Saturday. Eh, I'll just do that tomorrow-Saturday. Besides, I have no boxes anyway. Time to go to the liquor store.....for boxes
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Firstly, In the firt five minutes of New Order Part1 (the first episdoe of season 8), even before the credits, Daniel and Elizabeth exchnaged permission to call each other by their first names. So what the frak is this "Dr. Jackson" and "Dr. Weir" business? Did they have a fight? Did they become a couple and brake up because he missed the Daedalus? Elizabeth particularly is inclined to call people by their first names. Yes when she is talking to Zalenka and Chuck about Daniel "Dr. Jackson" is appropriate but to address Daniel as "Dr. Jackson"? Not really in character.
The other thing that bugs me is the obvious Canadianism that MS perpetrates in the otherwise American Daniel Jackson. Every American I have ever heard refer to grades in grade school as First Grade or in the case of the grade refered to in PP Fifth Grade. The only other time I've heard the phrasing of "Grade Five" was by a Canadian Character on the show Due South. I don't know why but this drives me bonkers.
But I do love how touchy feelly Daniel is with Vala in PP. Daniel doesn't do much touching of people in general but Vala he can't keep his hands off. Yes some of it is to steer her in the right direction but if you watch closely you'll see that practically every time they are standing next to each other he takes the oportunity to touch her.
I love the way that at first Vala annoys Daniel with the way she wants to search the Ancient library but after a while it seems like they work to geather well.sigpic
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Just saw the cover art for Stargate Atlantis season 3:
WTF?? They can fit five characters on Atlantis but not on SG1 with Vala included?!!!
Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrr! Not happy.
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Ok. Longggg catch-up post.
ohh..534 and my total post is something 700. And I've been active-delurked since Marth-Unending. Hehehe I think I've a little obbession here as well, Stef aand like you DJGirl although I'm most active hereOriginally posted by Stef View Post
You're absolutely right about the angonistic thing. After they get closed, they push away themselves. Defense mechanisim, me thinks.Originally posted by Kath Pup View Post
Family Ties was a good example of wasting of a good oppurtunity/potential for having a good episode. I think all writers should examine it.
First, hullo, cara.Originally posted by isabelqc View Post*running in*
Hey everybody, just coming in to drop off a drabble that came to me in response to all the I love you talk that we had going on before
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And for the rest of my fics, cuz LC asked, well I have stuff written I´m just waiting for my internet craziness to end, then you guys will be sooo fraking spoil with fic, that you just might OD. All I´m saying is Noir is finished, Chains has been a going good, and Unending, fluff, team ficness, and comedy galore. *cue evil laughter*
Nice little ficlet. Can't wait to see your goodies
Yeah, you're right too. As I said before I like those moments, that aspect of their relationship, Daniel's confession about her but at the end I can't help but feel there has to be something more, much more. Don't get me wrong though, I've seen it a lot of times and enjoyed it but it seems to me a lot of things happened off-screen. Like how Vala pulled herself back after the team found her. We didn't see it. I'd like to see scenes between Daniel/Vala, how is bad to remember all of things happened to her. I think I wanted to see a little more angsty. Humour is good but that episode also requires more angst, imo.Originally posted by DJgirl View Post
I dunno, it's Vala, of course, hiding herself behind a cheerful facade but I think I assumed that things should have been different with Daniel.
Their talk was amazing, one of the most powerful scenes of the history of SG-1 but as a whole episode, I've problems with it too. It happened too fast. It should have been two episode. I liked it but again it could be done much better. Stupid budget, I guess. But I really like Vala in Shroud. As Stef said somewhere below, one minute she was playful, and he was responding it, and the next they were all serious, 'get down on the business'.The Shroud....Their talk was amazing!!! Every aspect of it spoke volumes for their relationship. Him being comfortable with her sitting on his lap(not that he had a choice, but it didn't look like he minded), her sitting on his lap, even though he was a Prior. The trust is just so completely there in those few minutes. One of my favorite scenes of the season!!
Iheartvala,very, very good insight in both of them. I can't say more than 'I agree'.Originally posted by iheartvala View PostI gotta say, even though I thought Daniel's behavior in this episode sucked, it made perfect sense to me. I mean D/V was a hard ship to sell right up until Unending so did you really expect TPTB to give us what we wanted? Here's what Company of Thieves said to me, as far as D/V...Daniel had just spent two weeks on the edge, constantly worrying about Vala and as Michael Shanks said in the AOL preview for MM, Daniel came to realize some things about his deep connection to Vala, and hello...this is Daniel we're talking about so NATURALLY he would back off and become colder to protect himself. Not to mention the fact that in COT, Vala employed some of her less than reputable contacts to get the SGC what they needed, which clearly upsets Daniel.
I mean when you think about it, doesn't COT actually speak volumes about his feelings for her, and the ship in general? Daniel cares about her so much that he goes completely irrational, doubting her intentions (where earlier he had begun to trust her), and actually getting angry at her for being able to help in the way that she did. I mean if you remember the short convo in the cargo ship where Daniel accuses Vala of pocketing some of the naquada the SGC gave her, she really did seem shocked and hurt at his accusation because it was so out of place for them at the time. As much as we don't want it to be the case, Daniel is probably going to continue to protect himself for a while with Vala because he seems to be that afraid of being hurt. No one has said much about the way he treated her in 200 or Bad Guys either, but those both pop out in my head as other circumstances when he was needlessly impatient with her.
COT for me makes the Unending rant completely reasonable (although still mean).
LC_, I agree with you too. Nice analysis.
Yay!! I really want to see her again in TV even though it would be a small recurring role. But I like her real accent better. To my ears, it was awesome.Originally posted by djay View Post
ahh, I adore her fics. She is my favorite author in Dala fathom.Originally posted by LC_ View Post
Her stories are amazing.
I strongly reccomend them to those who interested with fan fictions. Especially her Qetesh/Vala/Daniel one. It is A.M.A.Z.I.N.G.
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Ok. Longggg catch-up post.
ohh..534 and my total post is something 700. And I've been active-delurked since Marth-Unending. Hehehe I think I've a little obbession here as well, Stef aand like you DJGirl although I'm most active hereOriginally posted by Stef View Post
You're absolutely right about the angonistic thing. After they get closed, they push away themselves. Defense mechanisim, me thinks.Originally posted by Kath Pup View Post
Family Ties was a good example of wasting of a good oppurtunity/potential for having a good episode. I think all writers should examine it.
First, hullo, cara.Originally posted by isabelqc View Post*running in*
Hey everybody, just coming in to drop off a drabble that came to me in response to all the I love you talk that we had going on before
Spoiler:
And for the rest of my fics, cuz LC asked, well I have stuff written I´m just waiting for my internet craziness to end, then you guys will be sooo fraking spoil with fic, that you just might OD. All I´m saying is Noir is finished, Chains has been a going good, and Unending, fluff, team ficness, and comedy galore. *cue evil laughter*
Nice little ficlet. Can't wait to see your goodies
Yeah, you're right too. As I said before I like those moments, that aspect of their relationship, Daniel's confession about her but at the end I can't help but feel there has to be something more, much more. Don't get me wrong though, I've seen it a lot of times and enjoyed it but it seems to me a lot of things happened off-screen. Like how Vala pulled herself back after the team found her. We didn't see it. I'd like to see scenes between Daniel/Vala, how is bad to remember all of things happened to her. I think I wanted to see a little more angsty. Humour is good but that episode also requires more angst, imo.Originally posted by DJgirl View Post
I dunno, it's Vala, of course, hiding herself behind a cheerful facade but I think I assumed that things should have been different with Daniel.
Their talk was amazing, one of the most powerful scenes of the history of SG-1 but as a whole episode, I've problems with it too. It happened too fast. It should have been two episode. I liked it but again it could be done much better. Stupid budget, I guess. But I really like Vala in Shroud. As Stef said somewhere below, one minute she was playful, and he was responding it, and the next they were all serious, 'get down on the business'.The Shroud....Their talk was amazing!!! Every aspect of it spoke volumes for their relationship. Him being comfortable with her sitting on his lap(not that he had a choice, but it didn't look like he minded), her sitting on his lap, even though he was a Prior. The trust is just so completely there in those few minutes. One of my favorite scenes of the season!!
Iheartvala,very, very good insight in both of them. I can't say more than 'I agree'.Originally posted by iheartvala View PostI gotta say, even though I thought Daniel's behavior in this episode sucked, it made perfect sense to me. I mean D/V was a hard ship to sell right up until Unending so did you really expect TPTB to give us what we wanted? Here's what Company of Thieves said to me, as far as D/V...Daniel had just spent two weeks on the edge, constantly worrying about Vala and as Michael Shanks said in the AOL preview for MM, Daniel came to realize some things about his deep connection to Vala, and hello...this is Daniel we're talking about so NATURALLY he would back off and become colder to protect himself. Not to mention the fact that in COT, Vala employed some of her less than reputable contacts to get the SGC what they needed, which clearly upsets Daniel.
I mean when you think about it, doesn't COT actually speak volumes about his feelings for her, and the ship in general? Daniel cares about her so much that he goes completely irrational, doubting her intentions (where earlier he had begun to trust her), and actually getting angry at her for being able to help in the way that she did. I mean if you remember the short convo in the cargo ship where Daniel accuses Vala of pocketing some of the naquada the SGC gave her, she really did seem shocked and hurt at his accusation because it was so out of place for them at the time. As much as we don't want it to be the case, Daniel is probably going to continue to protect himself for a while with Vala because he seems to be that afraid of being hurt. No one has said much about the way he treated her in 200 or Bad Guys either, but those both pop out in my head as other circumstances when he was needlessly impatient with her.
COT for me makes the Unending rant completely reasonable (although still mean).
LC_, I agree with you too. Nice analysis.
Yay!! I really want to see her again in TV even though it would be a small recurring role. But I like her real accent better. To my ears, it was awesome.Originally posted by djay View Post
ahh, I adore her fics. She is my favorite author in Dala fandom.Originally posted by LC_ View Post
Her stories are amazing.
I strongly reccomend them to those who interested with fan fictions. Especially her Qetesh/Vala/Daniel one. It is A.M.A.Z.I.N.G.
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Okay, see this is why I like coming here. Everyone puts such a positive spin on episodes that I get frustrated with (CoT & Beachhead....although, I noticed that nobody contested FTOriginally posted by LC_ View Post
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I'm strange like that. But this is fiction, so I guess that I can forgive it.
Don't get me wrong, I still love my Daniel....but sometimes....
Anyhoo, in response to your comments about BG...I'm still maintaining that it was some sort of eye!sex. No, I don't think it was Daniel thinking "Wish that were us" but I do think it might have been something like "Why did I just think of Vala when I saw those two people kissing? And why is she looking at me like that?"
That look between them seemed so unnecessary that I have to believe the reason they only showed their reactions (and their shared look) was to show something more than Vala being flirty and Daniel being annoyed. Now who's being the optimist
Seriously, I may not entirely agree with everyone's explanations, but you guys have raised some very good points that make me question my own interpretations. Thanks
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Ooh, a preview with her actually in it?! I had seen a promo with her doing a snippet of voice-over, but we never got to see her. I've heard that she's barely in the first episode, but she could be a recurring character later on.Originally posted by djay View Post
Well, if you two insistOriginally posted by ErinB View Post I've put it on my queue...so it's at least on my to-do list.
Originally posted by MaeveBran View Post Wow, those really are small things that I never noticed. Good points, nonetheless. I wish I had some reasons like that to explain my own ambivalence.
Yeah, I liked Daniel and Vala working as a team. I especially liked how he was curbing some of her less than savory instincts to steal (the cute little scene where they're walking, talking to Weir, and Vala tries to steal something...Daniel doesn't even stop walking, he just grabs her arm and drags her along. He doesn't even have to look at her, he just knows what she's doing). They also did seem to be working nicely as a team when they were in the holo room....and of course, the lovely balcony scene. I still want to see the Vala/Sheppard flirting....and Daniel reacting to it. If Daniel reacted in any way similar to how MS & BB did when they were filming it, I think it would be pretty funny.
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Oh, we know that they could fit her in if they wanted. I did! They were just lazy. Which makes it all the worse.Originally posted by djay View Post
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