Daniel Jackson/Vala Mal Doran Ship/Discussion/Appreciation Thread

[MaeveBran]

My puddle of goo Smile.

[DJgirl]

Okay, so a final post before I go tobed unusually early (in all fairness, I haven't slept in 27 hours).


It's okay, Kales. I've all but given up on that thread. It seems for every point I make, someone pics out one word to nitpick and find fault with. I'm not angry, just *sigh*



He He. I can't believe you didn't know it was Cadman! Although, I've got one-up on you guys. I knew her first as Kristina on "General Hospital," back when I watched soaps. I remember that she cried a lot and then got blown up. Good times



OMG, Kales. You and I have some sort of weird connection. I've actually read Meg Cabot's book "The Guy Next Door." A nice, fun read. While I don't remember the actual plot, I do remember laughing pretty loudly as I read it in my dorm freshman year. I would totally love to see MS and CB do a romance like that...playful and fun. We can cross our fingers

And MS was beyond adorable in UTM. While I loved Daniel, I don't think I had really melted over MS until that point. He was just so....open and warm. *sigh* Makes me want to watch it again. Of course, I'd have to ffwd through the creepy toothed dead husband. Seriously, was I the only one that thought her husband's smile was scary?

Okay, off to bed now. So. Very. Tired.

Oh, and while I'm gone, if anyone can come up with some songs that might fit a vid that deals with DV and their spouses (Sha're/Tomin). Something about them moving on or whatever. Just really interested in making a vid somewhere down the line to that

-Stef

(((Stef)))) I hope you can finally get some sleep

[Kales]

((((Kales)))) I know what it feels like to feel poopy for no reason. This thread was really one of the few places I had to make me feel better!!

Thanks! It's the last week of semester, and I'm feeling terrible. I'm just so blimin tired. I was ill - pretty seriously - for the whole of January, so while I'm better I've been pretending to be quite a bit stronger than I actually feel yet. And it's meant that my lovely uni has basically turned around and said, "Do the whole semester (11 weeks) in the next three and a half."

Ugh... off topic rant, sorry.

I just need to make it until Friday. Just til friday. Then I can a) sleep, b) cry like a baby for several hours and get it out of my system (Secrets/Forever In A Day/Meridian/Dominion/Unending/Sunday marathon,methinks).

kay x

[DJgirl]

Thanks! It's the last week of semester, and I'm feeling terrible. I'm just so blimin tired. I was ill - pretty seriously - for the whole of January, so while I'm better I've been pretending to be quite a bit stronger than I actually feel yet. And it's meant that my lovely uni has basically turned around and said, "Do the whole semester (11 weeks) in the next three and a half."

Ugh... off topic rant, sorry.

I just need to make it until Friday. Just til friday. Then I can a) sleep, b) cry like a baby for several hours and get it out of my system (Secrets/Forever In A Day/Meridian/Dominion/Unending/Sunday marathon,methinks).

kay x

Rant all you want!! Sounds like a good cry-a-thon you have planned there!! Can't say that I have never done anything like that, because I have but it was before I was into Stargate, so it was sappy movies for me!!

It is time for me to call it a night. Even though the doctors say I am fine, I want to take every measure I can to keep up my mental health!!

Just take it as easy as you can Kales!!! We need you around to help keep the positive zen


Have a good night all!!

[Kales]

Rant all you want!! Sounds like a good cry-a-thon you have planned there!! Can't say that I have never done anything like that, because I have but it was before I was into Stargate, so it was sappy movies for me!!

It is time for me to call it a night. Even though the doctors say I am fine, I want to take every measure I can to keep up my mental health!!

Just take it as easy as you can Kales!!! We need you around to help keep the positive zen


Have a good night all!!

Yeah, I think one of the reasons I feel so crappy is my lack of a sleeping pattern most of the time, lol.

G'night, DJG and thanks for all the pics and kindness ((DJG))

Take care, and I shall try! *is drinking world's strongest coffee right now*

kay x

[Kales]

Stef... you were asking for song recs, I shall oblige whilst waiting for caffiene to kick in... Lyrics are in tags for the lesser known ones.

Coldplay: X&Y, The Scientist, Fix You.
Jimmy Eat World: Hear You Me
Counting Crows: Colorblind.
David Gray: This Year's Love.

The slightly kookier:
By Imogen Heap: Clear The Area

Spoiler:

Knock, knock…are you alone?
No one’s out here and I was not followed.
Love, love…you’re already home.
Party’s over and you don’t look so good.

You find your way back down.
And I’ll keep the area clear…please clear the area.
When you find your way back down…in one piece.
Then I’ll just be waiting here…right here.

Low light…mercury morning…
No need to stay as it’s always nothing.
But your eyes tell a whole other story…and I feel the weight of the world.
You Won’t talk…You Won’t try…just move…
It’s too still in your sadness.
Cry…give up…it’s okay…
You’ve just got to trust me.

You find your way back down.
And I’ll keep the area clear…please clear the area.
When you find your way back down…in one piece.
Then I’ll just be waiting here…right here.

Slowly…darling…nobody means anymore to me than you
If you’re in…baby then I’m in (into this)…with you, always.
Careful…close to the edge…(You’re scaring me)
Fall in to my arms….(away with it all)
Fall…into love…love

You find your way back down.
And I’ll keep the area clear…please clear the area.
When you find your way back down…in one piece.
Then I’ll just be waiting here…right here.


You find your way back down.
And I’ll keep the area clear…please clear the area.
When you find your way back down…in one piece.
Then I’ll just be waiting here…right here.

You find your way back down.
Way back down,
And I’ll keep the area clear…please clear the area.
When you find your way back down…in one piece.
Then I’ll just be waiting here…right here.

Imogen Heap: Speeding Cars. Just look at the first verse and chorus. So them! Maybe a more general Dala/angst rec.

Spoiler:

Here's the day you hoped would never come
Don’t feed me violence, just run with me
Through rows of speeding cars
The paper cuts, the cheating lovers
The coffee’s never strong enough
I know you think it’s more than just bad luck

There, there, baby
It’s just text book stuff
It’s in the ABC of growing up
Now, now, darlin’
Oh don’t lose your head
'Cause none of us were angels
And you know I love you, yeah

Sleeping pills, no sleeping dogs lie never
Far enough away
Glistening in the cold sweat of guilt
I’ve watched you slowly winding down for years
You can’t keep on like this
Now is as bad of time as any

There, there, baby
It’s just text book stuff
It’s in the ABC of growing up
Now, now, darlin’
Oh don’t kill yourself
'Cause none of us were angels
And you know I love you, yeah

It’s all okay by me
It’s all okay by me
It’s all okay by me
It was a long time ago

It’s all okay by me
It’s all okay by me
It’s all okay by me
It was a - long - time - ago

There, there, baby
It’s just text book stuff
It’s in the ABC of growing up
Now, now, darlin’
Oh don’t lose your head
'Cause none of us were angels
And you know I love you, yeah

There, there, baby
It’s just text book stuff
It’s in the ABC of growing up
Now, now, darlin’
Oh don’t kill yourself
'Cause none of us were angels
And you know I love you, yeah

Frou Frou: Let Go... This song saved my life, lol. At my very worst I used to listen to it on repeat one. Seriously. For hours on end. The only other time I've ever been quite so bad about a song was when my papa died and I listened to - this is so pathetic, cannot believe I'm typing this - Snow Patrol, How to be Dead, over and over, interspersed with Keane, Bedshaped, lol.

Spoiler:

drink up, baby down
mmm, are you in or are you out
leave your things behind
'cause it's all going off without you
excuse me, too busy you're writing your tragedy
these mishaps
you bubble wrap
when you've no idea what you're like

so let go, jump in
oh well, whatcha waiting for
it's alright
'cause there's beauty in the breakdown
so let go, just get in
oh, it's so amazing here
it's alright
'cause there's beauty in the breakdown

it gains the more it gives
and then it rises with the fall
so hand me that remote
can't you see that all that stuff's a sideshow

such boundless pleasure
we've no time for later now
you can't await your own arrival
you've 20 seconds to comply

so let go, jump in
oh well, whatcha waiting for
it's alright
'cause there's beauty in the breakdown
so let go, just get in
oh, it's so amazing here
it's alright
'cause there's beauty in the breakdown

Beth Waters: Blue and White

Spoiler:

blue and white

it's okay I'm going home now
I'll be okay tonight
I just wanna be alone now
with the dark and the light
that's my favorite color blue there
as the sun sets in the sky
there's just something in the hue there
in the corner of my eye

in the dark and the light
in the blue and the white
something's pure that I am missing
something's sure that I am not
holding back and never letting you see

light a match in the dark now
see my shadow on the wall
doesn't look too much like me
no it's not like me at all
pour over what you wrote
and the letters burn the page
I see all the things you meant to me
in the things you didn't say

in the dark and the light
in the blue and the white
all the things that I've forgotten
all the things that I am not
holding back and never letting you see

now I am
now I am
now I am
now I am
now I am
now I am
oooh

^this one looks so sappy from the lyrics, but it's really beautiful. The fact that me - the rock chick of the thread that recs The Cure songs - is reccing it should say just how gorgeous this song is.

Beth Waters: Philosophy.

Spoiler:

there is no bad there is no good
and in between I sit here wishing that I could
just open up and scream
where is the romance
the promised perfection
I think I tried too hard

there is no day there is no night
just paths around the sun
we sit here drawing charts of light
he’s pulling out his gun
where is the romance the subtle imperfections
I think I know too much

no more
no more
ey ey ey
no more
no more
and they’re pushing you to say
that you wanted it this way

and there goes everything and all my fear
I have everything I’ve ever wanted here
there goes everything and all my fear
I have everything I’ve ever wanted here

there is no original thought
it’s all been done
so when you think that you’re alone
you’re not the only one
we are all connected
and nothing stands between us
except for ourselves

no more
no more
ey ey ey
no more
no more
and they’re pushing you to say
that you wanted it this way


and there goes everything and all my fear
I have everything I’ve ever wanted here
there goes everything and all my fear
I have everything I’ve ever wanted here
ever wanted here
ever wanted here

^Same as I said about the other Beth Waters song. She's just... brilliant.

OOH! Toploader: Achilles' Heel!!!!! I'd totally forgotten how GOOD that song is! Probably more a general Dala rec than a getting over spouses rec.

Spoiler:

Goodbye to the sky,
I know I can't fly, but I feel love
do you know how I feel?
you are my achilles heel.
hello to below, I feel love flow
like a river flow
you and I standing still
you are my achilles heel.

feeling free, yeah, what about me?
well you gotta give it up cos I feel love
do you know how I feel?
you are my achilles heel
goodbye to the sky
I know I can't fly, but I feel love
do you know how I feel?
you are my achilles heel.

for there's a child in your eyes
and the child never dies
so keep the dream alive
with the aid of second sight
I can push with all my might
to make a statue in the sky
of my achilles heel

small fry, don't know why
gotta get high - just to love life
you are my highs and lows
from my head to my toes
I said hey la, will I go far?
will I go far - cos I love life
do you know how I feel?
you are my achilles heel
I said oh no no, will I go slow?
will I go slow, when the feeling flows

for there's a child in your eyes
and the child never dies
so keep the dream alive
with the aid of second sight
I can push with all my might
o make the satue in the sky
of my achilles heel

well you're feeling free
so what about me?
I said hello and goodbye but I don't know why
well while we're small fry
on the line
with my achilles heel

Last one Travis, The Humpty Dumpty Love Song.

Spoiler:

All of the king's horses
And all of the king's men
Couldn't pull my heart
Back together again

All of the physicians
And mathematicians too
And failed to stop my heart
From breaking in two

'Cause all I need is you
I just need you
yeah, you got the glue
So i'm gonna give my heart to you

I had a premonition
a movie in my mind
confirming my suspicions
Of what i would find

It followed me to L.A.
Down to Mexico
Came in through the back door
At the start of the show

Still all i need you
I just need you
Yeah, you got the glue
So i'm gonna give my heart to you

It was a perfect day
In a perfect way
You know, something had go
You left me high, you left me low

Now, as I lie in pieces
I wait for your return
the sun upon my forehead
It burns, baby, burns, baby, burns

An eye on all my horses
You've slept with all my men
I'm never gonna get it
Together again

Still all i need is you
I just need you
Yeah, you got the glue
So i'm gonna give my heart to you

Yeah, you got the glue
There's nothing i can do
Yeah, you got the glue
So i'm gonna give my heart to you

okay so that took the requisite 20 min for caffiene lol. Stef, hope this helps and this should indicate what sort of wallowing music I'm listening to right now

kay x

EDIT: PS! Everyone! Mysotosis updated and it's brilliant! Fic rec: http://www.fanfiction.net/s/3444186/1/

EDIT 2: *waves* to Anjirika. Out of interest, how many pages have we filled since Saturday, lol?

[Anjirika]

Ugh, I've been gone since Sat...I have SO much to catch up on *cries*
Well, better start.

Someone also requested SW's "Across the Stars" earlier. -Stef

*JUMPS UP AND DOWN*

Me! Me! That was ME!

Going back to the whole

Spoiler:

Tomin thing

that Kales brought up for the Ark of Truth

Spoiler:

I think that although they were estranged, it would still be an obstacle because Daniel is a moral person and I think that he would still constitute it to be an affair- and I mean look at Vala in Bounty. She told Darrel (was that his name) that she was married and she was sad about it. So, I think that it is a hurtle for Dala to overcome.
As for being released from their vows or Tomin dying....hmm, Kales that's a good one. As much as I would love a scene like
'I release you.'
'Release me from what?'
'From our marriage.'
'Tomin-'
'No Vala. I understand now. Your heart never belonged to me, it belongs to another'
'I do care about you.'
'I know that. But caring about me is not the same as loving me. You love another. It has always been that way. And more than anything, I want you to be happy.'
*smile* 'Thank you Tomin' *kiss him on the cheek*
With Tomin dead it brings a finality to the situation and think about it. She'd be sad, but she'd have Daniel there so she would be fine. We could get a great scene like
'I never wanted him to die.'
'I know that.'
'He was there when I was lost in the Ori galaxy....'
'I was here for you when you were lost in THIS galaxy Vala....and I always will be.'
'Daniel-?'
*kiss*

But that is just what I think...and what I would love to see...

And I agree with poundpuppy about

Spoiler:

Daniel saving Vala and feeling validated

I think it is would be what he needs and would make him and Vala all the closer...not to mention it would be totally sweet. Think of the whole 'you saved me/I will always save you' scene that we could have *SQUEE*

On to page 428 and beyond... Kamiikiteiru, I love your scenario with Teal'c. Absolutly love it...

Spoiler:

you know it could come to late, like Vala's already been taken and then we could have Daniel trying to get through to Vala through Katesh and we could have a whole 'Vala. You have to listen to me.'
'Nothing of the host survives.'
'That is a load of bull crap and you know it Katesh.' Shakes head. 'Vala, I know that you're in there and I know that you're hurting but you have to fight her. You have to get us out of here *Daniel could be in chains or something* but we can't get out of here unless you regain control.'
'She does not want to fight. She is to scared.'
'Katesh, now I know that you're lying. Vala is the most courageous, brave, un-frightened person in the entire galaxy. She risked her life to stop the Ori from gaining a foothold in this galaxy, hell she even bore them their child and all through it all she kept her chin up. She may be overly agrivating at times but even then, it's only because of what YOU put her through.'
'You speek passionatly Dr. Jackson.'
'Yes well, I care about her...a lot.'
'Oh really....? She doesn't believe you.'
'Vala, you listen to me. I couldn't admit it to you before, because I wasn't 100% sure myself until you were taken but- I do care for you, a lot. In the short time that we've known each other I've even come to l---love you. Not as a friend, but as something more. So you have to fight now, you've always fought before and you have to fight now. I've almost lost you too many times to lose you now so please Vala, know that I love you- *smile* -and I want to see where that takes us....'
*Katesh clutches her head*
'Daniel?'
'Vala-? Is that you?'
'Yes....*cringe*...Daniel she's strong.'
'You can fight her.'
'Did you mean what you said?'
'Every word.'
'Then you have to know that I l-' *clutches head**eyes glow*
'She is strong'
'Yes. She is.'

Okay guys, I need to go. I will respond to pages 429 and beyond tomorrow....
night Dala fans.

[Kales]

Was going to be nice and put this in as an edit to the above post, but apparently it would have been too long

EDIT 3: One more rec... Oh man I know. This has got my brain buzzing. Or is that the coffee?

Switchfoot, Dare You To Move

Spoiler:

Welcome to the planet
Welcome to existence
Everyone's here, everyone's here
Everybody's watching you now
Everybody waits for you now
What happens next? What happens next?

I dare you to move, I dare you to move
I dare you to lift yourself up off the floor
I dare you to move, I dare you to move
Like today never happened
Today never happened before

Welcome to the fallout
Welcome to resistance
The tension is here, the tension is here
Between who you are and who you could be
Between how it is and how it should be

I dare you to move, I dare you to move
I dare you to lift yourself up off the floor
I dare you to move, I dare you to move
Like today never happened
Today never happened

Maybe redemption has stories to tell
Maybe forgiveness is right where you fell
Where can you run to escape from yourself?
Where you gonna go?
Where you gonna go?
Salvation is here

I dare you to move, I dare you to move
I dare you to lift yourself up off the floor
I dare you to move, I dare you to move
Like today never happened
Today never happened
Today never happened
Today never happened before

Damien Rice, 9 Crimes

Spoiler:

Lisa: Leave me out with the waste
This is not what I do
It's the wrong kind of place
To be thinking of you
It's the wrong time
For somebody new
It's a small crime
And I've got no excuse

Lisa: Is that alright? Yeah.
Give my gun away when it's loaded
Is that alright? Yeah.
If you don't shoot it how am I supposed to hold it
Is that alright? Yeah.
Give my gun away when it's loaded
Is that alright? Yeah.
With you.

Damien: Leave me out with the waste
This is not what I do
It's the wrong kind of place
To be cheating on you
It's the wrong time
She's pulling me through
It's a small crime
And I've got no excuse

Damien: Is that alright with you?
Give my gun away (Lisa: Is that alright? Yeah.)when it's loaded
[ Lyrics found on http://www.metrolyrics.com ]

Is that alright with you?
If you don't shoot it how (Lisa: Is that alright? Yeah. ) am I supposed to hold it
Is that alright with you?
Give my gun away (Lisa: Is that alright? Yeah. ) when it's loaded
Is that alright
Is that alright with you?

Damien: Is that alright, yeah?
Give my gun away (Lisa: Is that alright? Yeah. ) when it's loaded
Is that alright with you?
If you don't shoot it how (Lisa: Is that alright? Yeah. ) am I supposed to hold it
Is that alright with you?
Give my gun away (Lisa: Is that alright? Yeah. ) when it's loaded
Is that alright
Is that alright with you?

(Slight Overlap..)
Damien: Is that alright yeah?
Lisa: Give my gun away when it's loaded
Damien: Is that alright yeah?
Lisa: If you don't shoot it how am I supposed to hold it
Damien: Is that alright yeah?
Lisa: Give mygun away when it's loaded
Damien: Is that alright, is that alright?

D & L: Is that alright with you?

^ A lot less repetitive than it looks, lol, because the music is just so darn beautiful.
/END EDIT

kay x

PS - EDIT: Trying to edit to cut down on my sheer number of posts tonight

Anjirika, I love those little ficlets. You should totally develop them into fics. They're really intriguing.

Hehe, I suppose you'll see this when you get to 437 lol. Oops.

[gioia]

Morning shippers!! It seems that I missed the party last night again
Anjirika, I like your ficlet. I'm so curious about this Qetesh/Daniel/Vala scenes and how the story will play.
DJGirl, you're a goddess. thanks for the pics

[iheartvala]

arg Kales! as if I needed another reason to love you...your taste in music is just like mine! <3

[Kales]

EDIT: good morning everyone, lol!

hehe iheartvala, i had no idea. i went a bit mad on the reccing thing.

All nighter, not fun.

kay x

[djay]

Hello, all.

Really liked the new vid by Neferititi, especially the...

Spoiler:

melding scene between the kiss in PU and the kiss in Unending.
And I got to see my wrinkly scene again.

DJAY

[Kales]

Guys, Shesmetet just posted this in the SJ thread. It’s why vids are being yanked off youtube…

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/6446193.stm

Grrr..... Fandom should unite and start a revolution, lol.

kay x

[gioia]

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/6326523.stm
here is another link about YouTube and removing the videos.
I think they have to agree on some common level. all this 'illegal' stuff has gone far enough. Ok, maybe I could understand removing the films and ALL episodes but video clips and fan stuff. Nope, It's just ridicilous.

[Kales]

Yep, there's a line. And music vids of shows is beyond that line. In fact, Corporations, the line is a DOT to you! *anger*

I mean, the vidders practically promote the show for them. Then again, we all know how great Skiffy is at ads... *rolls eyes*

On Nef's vid

Spoiler:

I think my two very fave things about it, after masses of rewatching, are:
1. The big moment and the lyrics around it, just perfect "Now that we are closer, close to finding truth... We might fall...." *Squeeeeee!* *happy sigh*
2. The way at the end where the song ends, but the SG-1 music fits it exactly too and it just fades into it. It is a brilliant song choice, having both the same piano tones and the same cello sound running through it.

kay x

kay x