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Sam Carter /Jack O'Neill Ship Appreciation Thread 2.0
Really??? Omg, you've made my Christmas. I'll check that out immediately. I thought she'd just stopped writing. Clearly, I was never as deep into the fandom as I could have been. But this is really great news. Thank you so much, I'm so glad I made this post, I guess I would have never found that out otherwise
It's not at all a reflection on you! I actually didn't know about her newer account until I met her a couple years ago!
I'm glad I made your Christmas!
sigpic The Return of King Arthur Trust in the Lord with all your heart; lean not on your own understanding. In all of ways
acknowledge him, and he'll make your path straight. Proverbs 3:5-6
Sally Reeve is indeed Sally Malcolm who runs and writes for Stargate Novels, and yes, she's a wonderful writer! In case you're interested, look up Salr323 on Archive of Our Own. Those are her newer fanfics, and they are wonderful as well! There's one fanfic that comes to mind where Sam marries Pete (obviously, that's not a fanfic that everyone will want to read) but I remember it as being such a good exploration of Sam and Jack (and Pete and Kerry as well).
I read that story you mention. It's really quite good. Without giving too much away, I like that Sam and Kerry become friends.
Sally Reeve is the reason I couldn't read fanfic while the show was running. I went nuts thinking her stuff really happened in the show. I finally had to stop reading. I will be checking out the novels and AO3.
Sorry I can't be here for Shipmas. Hubby and I are going on a weekend getaway. Have fun y'all!
sigpic The Return of King Arthur Trust in the Lord with all your heart; lean not on your own understanding. In all of ways
acknowledge him, and he'll make your path straight. Proverbs 3:5-6
sigpic The Return of King Arthur Trust in the Lord with all your heart; lean not on your own understanding. In all of ways
acknowledge him, and he'll make your path straight. Proverbs 3:5-6
Where do you guys upload new images for sharing on here? I forgot photoshop got rid of 3rd part sharing for free (wasn't that kind of the point of photoshop?).
Originally posted by neverendingimaginationView Post
Hi everyone
Where do you guys upload new images for sharing on here? I forgot photoshop got rid of 3rd part sharing for free (wasn't that kind of the point of photoshop?).
I've moved on to imgbox.com
No Sam w/o a Jack and no Jack w/o a Sam.
It's like and immutable law of the multiverse.
Originally posted by neverendingimaginationView Post
Hi everyone
Where do you guys upload new images for sharing on here? I forgot photoshop got rid of 3rd part sharing for free (wasn't that kind of the point of photoshop?).
I know that some of the posters in the Artwork for All thread use imgbox now.
Had trouble getting on the net earlier plus had to play family chauffeur most of the day so I'm posting this here.
Merry Shipmas 2017!
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So I rewatched A Hundred Days and I've been thinking about it all day, again. Although I'm not happy watching Jack with Laira, I can't be mad at him or blame him, this time.
When they arrive on Edora, as soon as they meet Laira, Jack seems to be in the mood for a little harmless flirting. Just like Sam was when she met Narim, or later Joe Faxon. Or like Daniel is all the time :-)
So why does Jack seem to like Laira? Is it because he is in the position of being the smart one around her, able to teach her something, is she good for his ego? She is independent, strong, and smart enough but not extremely, yet lets Jack act protectively around her. Also the planet is friendly, no Jaffa shooting at them, so it feels safe to be "normal". But then the meteor rain happens, Jack is stranded and suddenly someone who was a nice possibility becomes his only choice. That looks much less interesting than before. So why does he eventually give in? Maybe he is mad at his team? They left him behind so he doesn't need them either? He starts a relationship with Laira but it's clear that his heart is not in it, he is settling.
And maybe Sam settling for Pete in season 8 is quite a similar case.
So I rewatched A Hundred Days and I've been thinking about it all day, again. Although I'm not happy watching Jack with Laira, I can't be mad at him or blame him, this time.
When they arrive on Edora, as soon as they meet Laira, Jack seems to be in the mood for a little harmless flirting. Just like Sam was when she met Narim, or later Joe Faxon. Or like Daniel is all the time :-)
So why does Jack seem to like Laira? Is it because he is in the position of being the smart one around her, able to teach her something, is she good for his ego? She is independent, strong, and smart enough but not extremely, yet lets Jack act protectively around her. Also the planet is friendly, no Jaffa shooting at them, so it feels safe to be "normal". But then the meteor rain happens, Jack is stranded and suddenly someone who was a nice possibility becomes his only choice. That looks much less interesting than before. So why does he eventually give in? Maybe he is mad at his team? They left him behind so he doesn't need them either? He starts a relationship with Laira but it's clear that his heart is not in it, he is settling.
And maybe Sam settling for Pete in season 8 is quite a similar case.
The first answer I have is that the episode was written by a newcomer writer. A woman too (quite a rarity back then). I get the feeling the episode may have been written with lacking knowledge of Jack's history (making Jack agree to a baby so quickly without making him mention his dead son to Laira... I felt like it was kind of weird... or I forgot about it if he ever mentioned it to her). Maybe the new writer didn't like Sam as a love interest too (at the start of the episode, Jack says Sam sucks the fun out stargazing while flirting with Laira and he doesn't acknowledge Sam at all in the end when they reunite). I dunno... because Laira seemed written to be quite different. More overt feminine... more fitting for a "alpha" guy like Jack than Sam if we consider old cliché romance tropes.
And... I dunno... the episode felt like some kind of "farwest"/countryside ideal idea of a romance (gonna be honest here, it soured me on american country dance and music... I know... petty, maybe... but I keep thinking back to this episode when I watch stuff like this since then). The women make babies, the men work in the fields.
If I try making sense of this episode... well, one could say Jack fell in love with her because she was devoted to him more than anyone while he was stranded, she looked pretty and womanly and motherly, she also was making passes at him... which means she also was easily available in a way Sam wasn't at all (i noticed this with Jack's love interests in general... he never actively pursue anyone beyond harmless flirting, he lets things happen, he lets women come and want him... even with Kerry, we can expect she was the one to flirt with him first... maybe he always was a bit passive when it comes to this... or maybe it started after his marriage' failure... because he's scared to commit to someone he may lose again ?)... stuff like this. And yeah, Edora's entire setting was probably pleasing to Jack, who loves his cabin in the wood, his fishing, etc... Not to mention the relative peace of not being shot at. I guess he enjoyed his time with Laira because it was utterly uncomplicated. It's just... the baby thing that felt really OCC for him to agree on like that. And knowing he could have become a ghost father if the writers had confirmed Laira's pregnancy being successful/real (I like to believe it didn't work out but she was strongly hoping she was pregnant at the end of the episode).
I'm not sure he was mad at his team. For what ? They didn't intend to leave him behind. It was accidental. I'm not sure what to think about his feelings about Sam in this episode though ? What was he truly feeling for her before this episode ? Just attraction + friendship ? But what were his feelings during Point of View (a previous episode) when he found out altSam was married to him (and happy before he died) ? Did he know he was falling in love already ? If so, what does it mean that he naturally fell for another woman just like that off world ?
Does it mean he locked his feelings for Sam deep inside because they were considered inappropriate ? Or/and because he thought she didn't return his feelings and would consider them creepy if she knew ? Or does it mean his feelings for Sam weren't that strong when he fell for Laira ? Then they returned when he came back (ending the thing with Laira) and resumed developing ? I wish we knew more about Jack's character and how he canonly feels about the people in his life. I feel like there are things we don't know. Like, did he ever consider going back to Sara after season 1 ? Like Sam asked in season 7, did they ever talk again ? Has he forgotten about Laira and the possible kid ? What are his thoughts about his feelings for Sam (Did their age difference ever bother him ? Did he ever doubt about the nature of his feelings ? Did he truly not care about her sciency talks... considering he was into astronomy ? Was his later behavior canonly influenced by the dramatic events of Entity ? Him directly killing her with a weapon, summoning guilty feelings at the time, similar to when his son died ? Did he ever feel like he was projecting his ex-wife on her at first ? Was he angry at her moving on (with Pete) but was refusing to show it ? Does he consider himself to be like Cassie's father (with Sam and Janet as the mother figures) ? What did he bloody mean in Affinity ? How does he feel about the long distance thing post season 8 (must be hard, frankly... then again, the show did its hardest to completely ignore Sam/Jack was a thing at this point) ? How was his family and why did he never talk about them (i mean parents, siblings... not what we already know about his ex wife and lost son) ?
Sam is a bit less mysterious considering episodes like Grace.
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