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Originally posted by Tracy JaneAs far as I remember, in the first episode a crewmember tried to call.... eep.... Janeway (?) "Ma'am" (or coulda been "Sir") and she didn't like it, so they swapped it to the other, and she said "Just call me Captain" or words to that effect. Let me find the quote.
Taken from "Caretaker"
JANEWAY: Come in. Gentlemen, welcome aboard Voyager.
KIM: Thank you, sir.
JANEWAY: Mr. Kim, at ease before you sprain something. Ensign, despite Starfleet protocol, I don't like being addressed as "sir".
KIM: I'm sorry, ma'am.
JANEWAY: Ma'am is acceptable in a crunch, but I prefer "Captain". We're getting ready to leave. Let me show you to the bridge.Yepp, it's blank down here.
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Originally posted by Tracy JaneTaken from "Caretaker"
JANEWAY: Ma'am is acceptable in a crunch, but I prefer "Captain". We're getting ready to leave. Let me show you to the bridge.
CAPT: Lieutenant, set the gizmo to whizmo!
LT: Yes, Captain!
worse yet:
LT: Captain, yes, Captain!
For the former, I keep wanting to change it to "Yes, my Captain!" heh.
In contrast, I can hear something like, "Yes, Captain, the gizmos have been set to whizmos."
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Originally posted by LaCroixA friend of mine from years ago was in the Army. I mistakenly called her ma'am once during the course of the day. Her reply was don't call me ma'am, I work for a living. She was a Sgt.
I guess it does depend on what branch your from.
Anyone know more about this?
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Originally posted by DEMYa know, I'd gotten the impression this is an enlisted person vs. commissioned officer difference, rather than a branch difference. That is, sergeants prefer 'Sgt' no matter what the branch.
Anyone know more about this?Yepp, it's blank down here.
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Originally posted by Tracy JaneOriginally posted by DEMYa know, I'd gotten the impression this is an enlisted person vs. commissioned officer difference, rather than a branch difference. That is, sergeants prefer 'Sgt' no matter what the branch.
from: Spoken and Written Forms of Address for U.S. Government Officials, Military Personnel, Foreign Officials, Nobility, and Religious Officials
For commissioned officers in the U.S. Armed services, the full rank is used as a title only in addressing letters and in formal introductions: one writes to Major General Sarah Miller, U.S. Army, and introduces her as Major General Miller. In greetings the full rank is shortened to General: "Dear General Miller."
For enlisted personnel, a similar principle applies. Sergeants -- whether staff sergeants, gunnery sergeants, or first sergeants -- are greeted simply as "Sergeant"; privates first class are referred to as "Private"; and, in the Navy and Coast Guard, chief petty officers are referred to as "Chief." Other noncommissioned officers are greeted by their ranks, although, informally, lower grades may be referred to generically as "Soldier" or "Sailor."
The universal terms of respect that lower ranks must use when addressing senior officers are "Sir" and "Ma(d)am." These terms are not applied to noncommissioned officers, however; the appropriate affirmative response to a sergeant, for example, is "Yes, Sergeant."
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In basic training to the TIs who were sgts it was "ma'am, yes, Ma'am" or "sir, yes, sir". But Basic training is a bit different then real Air Force.
I do remember one Sgt telling me "dont call me sir, I work for a living"... to which I replied "yes ma'am"..... fortunatly no one took themselves as seriously as you see on TV shows.Joseph Mallozzi -"In the meantime, I'm into season 5 of OZ (where the show takes an unfortunate hairpin turn into "the not so wonderful world of fantasy")"
^^^ Kinda sounds like seasons 9 and 10 of SG-1 to me. Thor, ya got Aspirin?
AGateFan has officially Gone Fishin (with Jack, Sam, Daniel, Teal'c) and is hoping Atlantis does not take that same hairpin turn.
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Originally posted by Tracy JaneMmmm, actually, I can see Sam as being like Kate Mulgrew's character in Voyager. I think she'd rather be referred to by rank rather than gender. As in "Colonel" (or "Major" or "Captain" depending on season) as opposed to "Sir" or "Ma'am". I would say that Sam has fought too hard to be one of the gang regardless of gender, to be referred to like that. Yes, she may have changed a lot over the years, and I don't think she would mind being referred to as Sir/Ma'am anymore (I think she would have had a hissyfit and a half back in season one) but I still think her preference would be for rank.
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