Sam Carter/Amanda Tapping Discussion/Appreciation

[DEM]

Hey, sal!

I know the answer. What are you willing to give for it?

[Lord_Minister]

is there a sam thunk thread around here?

[majorsal]

Hey, sal!

I know the answer. What are you willing to give for it?

skydiver's money?







sally

[AGateFan]

is there a sam thunk thread around here?

Shes too cool for a thunk thread.

Ok, the answer is I don't know... but I still think she is cool.

[Thor_Beyond769]

I just made a Sam vid for JanSam and well I thought let share it with Samanda

Song: Stand my ground
Artist: Within Temptation
Spoilers: season 1 till 8
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KZ1OU6qiyMQ

It is a vid about all the aspects of Sam. I hope you all like it

That's a good video! Thanks for sharing.

[Skydiver]

is there a sam thunk thread around here?

we don't really have a thunk thread. One may have been started a year ago or so but it didn't really last. We tend to talk more than post pics

[Skydiver]

skydiver's money?







sally

whacks sally and yanks my wallet out of her hand

hon, it's pretty empty, i just paid the bill for my air fare to at2/avalon

[L.A. Doyle]

we don't really have a thunk thread. One may have been started a year ago or so but it didn't really last. We tend to talk more than post pics

Yep, we mostly talk. Though sometimes we do post pics of Amanda/Sam because she's just as pretty on the outside as she is on the inside.

[DEM]

whacks sally and yanks my wallet out of her hand

ah, no money, no telly! sorry!

[NearlyCircular]

From a previous post:

Since some folks have groused that Sam is too perfect, that she always knows the answer... and that they want to see more of situations where Sam *doesn't* know the answer and doesn't figure things out... I set about to make a list of the times that Sam *didn't* know the answer -- because I think they've done a good job (sometimes too good) of showing Sam as not-perfect and not always having the ansewr (much more so than most scifi lead science-types) - and they started this in Season 1. (Frankly, I think they've gone too far to the 'don't know' side over the past couple of years...)

At any rate, here's the list that I have so far, and I'd like help adding to it

Adding:
Season 1: Children Of The Gods - Daniel is the one who figures out how to get the gate connected. Sam doesn't - even after working on the project for years before they originally went to Abydos.

Season 6: Paradise Lost - Maybourne gets her zat and uses it against both her and Jack. Sam doesn't figure out the new alien technology that creates the 'window-gate' that Maybourne and Jack go through. She also loses it with Dr. Lee (very human thing to do).

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Previous List:

Spoiler:

Not Super!Sam – she has her human sides, she has her vulnerabilities, she doesn’t always have the answer, she doesn’t always save the day

Season 1: The First Commandment – she can’t pull the trigger on Jonas (she isn’t the perfect soldier – she’s human)

Season 1: Solitudes – she didn’t think of dialing another gate. She didn’t save the day and rescue herself and Jack. (not Super!Sam who always comes up with the answer)

Season 5: Red Sky – they screwed up that sun!

Season 5: Desperate Measures – she doesn’t get herself out of this one. Jack swoops in and saves her.

Season 6: Forsaken – she got cold-cocked and tied up, then got put on the sidelines because of wooziness.

Season 7: Avenger 2.0 – she definitely didn’t save the day here. Felger had to reprogram the ‘Gate and Jack swooped in and saved both Carter and Felger.

Season 7: Fallen – she can’t run the ‘digger’ well enough – Kianna must operate/drive the machine

Season 7: Death Knell – she outruns the SuperSoldier for awhile, but it ultimately outlasts her and Teal’c and Jack swoop in and save her.

Season 8: New Order – Jack and the guys and the Asgard save the day. Fifth lets Sam go

Season 8: Gemini – RepliCarter fools her and gets the frequency/code to the Ancient Replicator gun.

Season 9: Beachhead - Carter isn’t needed to go with the bomb after all.

Season 9: Camelot – Sam can’t deal with the SuperGate fast enough

Ship – the whole Pete saga, Jonas, Jack – she definitely doesn’t have the relationship thing down.

And, then for contrast, here's a list of episodes where I think that Carter was a main hero, or *the* main hero, or did something decisive towards victory for that episode.

Episodes where Sam *did* save the day, where she was figuring things out, where she could see ‘the answer’, where Sam was the hero

Singularity – heroically going back down to Cassie
Hathor – taking on the Goa’uld, saving the base, saving Jack from being a Jaffa
Seth – using the hand device against Seth
1969 – figuring out the time travel/sunspots
Fair Game - where she uses the healing device on the Goa’uld
A Matter of Time – great Science!Sam
2010 – Science!Sam, Ship!Sam, Heroic!Sam
2001 – falling through the horizontal ‘Gate
Small Victories dumb ideas – blowing up the O’Neill to save the Asgard
A Hundred Days -creating and building that particle accelerator
Foothold – saving the SGC, and Earth
Paradise Lost - figuring out that Jack and Maybourne were on the moon
Grace – saving the Prometheus, it’s crew, and the aliens

Ok, here's one.

Message in a Bottle is another example of Sam screws up, but I liked it because it seemed to me to be more like what science and real life are actually like. Most of the time, you don’t get it right the first time. You may have to try a lot of things before that happens.

The whole episode was like one big science experiment run amok. First Sam and Daniel play around with an alien artifact; it starts acting up; Jack and Teal’c try to throw it through the gate, and it sprouts a bunch of spikes, one of which impales Jack, leaving him hanging, literally. They try blasting it with a staff weapon against Sam’s advice, try cutting through it, try heating it up, try turning on the ultra violet light, which only makes the gate room look like a black light flashback from the 60’s, then try turning the oxygen level down. Meanwhile, the device has not only infected people, but even the walls and the computers. So Janet is frantically looking for a cure. Finally Daniel figures out that it’s trying to communicate, so Sam reverses her earlier recommendations, and suggests raising the oxygen levels and blasting it with the staff weapon again. Finally, something that works.


By the way, rereading the transcript from the episode, I realize that it demonstrated early on that Sam was willing to make the hard choices required of a leader. At the end, she ends up ordering Teal’c to shoot the orb three times, even though they’re not sure if it will kill Jack, and it’s obviously shocking him. Kind of reminds you of Entity, doesn’t it? Leadership ability? Oh yeah.

And it also occurs to me that this is a perfect example of the old days when the writers didn’t rely on convenient plot twists or Asgard technology to give them an easy way out at the very last minute. They somehow managed to write episodes where the team managed to find their own way out of a crisis, even if it took all episode to get there.


NC

[Skydiver]

And it also occurs to me that this is a perfect example of the old days when the writers didn’t rely on convenient plot twists or Asgard technology to give them an easy way out at the very last minute. They somehow managed to write episodes where the team managed to find their own way out of a crisis, even if it took all episode to get there.


NC

yeah, that was what made it intersting. because you could 'play at home' and see if you could figure it out with them. it challenged the viewers AND characters.

now with everything being the great galactic treasure hunt....eh, not quite as engaging

[majorsal]

ah, no money, no telly! sorry!

ah, well...

goes to see what gender dem is

sees dem has no gender

well, if you're a guy, i'll spoilers do spoilers ya.

if you're a girl, we've got some experimental females here that'll help you out.

now give me the info!




sally

[Skydiver]

sally????? you just propositioned Dem????

am i reading this right????

We now have a Samanda Escort Service going on????

[Uber]

sally????? you just propositioned Dem????

am i reading this right????

We now have a Samanda Escort Service going on????

We've had one for awhile. It's stationed in the seedy side of the kingdom and frequented by only a select clientelle.

WHAT DO YOU MEAN how do I know about it???

I just....do.

[minigeek]

We've had one for awhile. It's stationed in the seedy side of the kingdom and frequented by only a select clientelle.

WHAT DO YOU MEAN how do I know about it???

I just....do.

You're the one who brokered that 1-900 number for AD, aren't you?