Gateworld Virtual Fleet 4.0 - Discussion thread

[Amann]

yes indeed, the Alesians are a splitoff Lantean group.....

[locutes]

so you'd have


Original ancients, they broke into Ori and Ancients, then the Ancients split into Lantians and Alesians

[bradly08]

doesn't this look like an awesome Aschen ship:

Spoiler:

That is exactly how I would imagine an ashen cruiser

so you'd have


Original ancients, they broke into Ori and Ancients, then the Ancients split into Lantians and Alesians

Basicly yes.

[Amann]

so do we want Amann as a character to be in a flagship jumper? a capsule? transported to the surface of a planet?

[thekillman]

-Rockets (past)
-Sublight Engines
-Maneuvering Thrusters
-Asgard Engines

what do you need all the engines for?

-Asgard Hyperdrive
-Hyperdrive system: Intergalactic/Extragalactic

one and the same

Power plant:

-Naquadah Generators
-ZPM ?

ZPM is unnecessary, we can always use a ZPM cart and interface it. no need for specific mention since we can even interface a ZPM with a Puddlejumoper.

also your ship uses naquahdriah for fuel yet naquahdah generators? huh?

Shielding:

-Asgard Shields
-Cloaking Device

just asgard shields. a cloak falls under "Other"

Hull: Naquadah/Trinium alloy

no miracle it costs 2 trillion. damn expensive alloy here for a 600+ meter ship.

-Naquadriah Powerplant Cell Ejection Pod

same thing with the generators...

Armament:
-4 Asgard Plasma Beam Cannons
-10 Asgard Pulse Cannons (unsure if we are using these)
-44 155mm Railguns
-26 VLS Missile Tubes
-Mark III and IX Nuclear Missiles
-Horizon Weapons Platform

still not using asgard weapons.

Complement:
-64 F-307s various marks
-Puddle Jumpers
-6 AC401’s various marks

F-307=F-100.
also jumpers ? since when can we produce those?

Crew: 4 to 310-380 crew members

just 4? the deadalus can run on 4, surely a BB would require a few more minimum crew.


lastly, how many can we produce in a certain timeframe?

F-307-F100 Mark I Models

what's with the marks? also i though we'd be going for F-100

-2x jet propulsion engines
-2x modified aerospike boosters/engines
-1x rocket booster/motor

if it has to run on a rocket engine in space we're screwed.
also it's identical to the F-302....

Maximum speed: ???
Fuel: ???

keep the speed vague, although the atmospheric speed IS important.
additionally i'd assume the fuel is some new fuel.

Power plant: Naquadah Generators

Plural?

Shielding:
-Asgard Shields

seriously?

-Cloaking Device (Goa'uld tech)

seriously?

Hull: Naquadah/Trinium alloy

that's gonna cost more than 80 million. naquahdah's better than gold, which costs some 2k per kilo. since naquahdah is even denser, and trinium is rarer, that's gonna be VERY expensive.

Countermeasures:
-Self-destruct
-Venting System

Venting System? on a fighter?

-6 Wing-mounted missile launchers (AIM-120 AMRAAM missiles)

first, naming both the abrevviation and the full name is redundant.

second, 6? that's the same as the F-302.

Other Missiles
Various Bombloads as applicable to mission on hardpoints

just make it "X amount of hardpoints with standard armament AIM-120 AMRAAMs.

F-307-F100 Mark II Models

-Twin turret mounted 30mm Gauss cannons

gauss? that's not gonna do a whole lot of damage.

also that's quite a few weapons. missiles have proven significantly superior to all other weapons, i'd advice to add more and drop these.

Tornado class AC401 Model Variants

Cost: $115,560,000

this seems dirt cheap compared to your fighter. although i'd have to see a rough model first. depends on the size and shape of your fighter/gunship.

Ship Length: 26.5 metres
Ship Width: 20.4 metres
Ship Height/depth: 9.7 metres

especially considering these sizes.

-Sublight Engines
-Vertical Maneuvering Thrusters
-Modified for size Asgard Hyperdrive

specify the engines.
"vertical maneuvering trusters"? so it can only maneuver up and down? i'd either make them maneuvering thrusters or vertical engines.

-Modified for size Asgard Hyperdrive

why doesn't the fighter have this then, if we could make it that small. or better: why doesn't this thing have a naquahdriah hyperdrive? seems more realistic.

Fuel: Naquadah/ Naquadriah

obviously the naquahdah is for the generators. and the naquahdriah?

Shielding:
-Asgard Shields
-Cloaking Device

so we can basically cloak and shield everything we like? seems farfetched.

Hull: Naquadah/Trinium alloy

getting repetitive...

and some more repetitive for the guns and missiles..

so do we want Amann as a character to be in a flagship jumper? a capsule? transported to the surface of a planet?

i'm with "hes aboard an experimental, badly damaged ship which accidentally jumped realities"

[Amann]

i'm with "hes aboard an experimental, badly damaged ship which accidentally jumped realities"

well a flagship jumper is pretty experimental, considering they are new 5 years after Golden Dawn.

[thekillman]

i have all sorts of problems with the idea of a "flagship jumper"

[Amann]

i have all sorts of problems with the idea of a "flagship jumper"

go on.....we could work it out, since after all, this would be an experimental ship.....it probably wouldn't have its weapons fully added or even perfected.

[thekillman]

a jumper is a gate-capable shuttlecraft meant for exploration etc. a "flagship" jumper that's bigger and better is not a puddlejumper.


i suggest simply an 80 meter or so ship, a design study built by these alesians. Amann went to test it, some random malfunction they haven't figured out yet and here they are.

[Lt. Col. Mcoy]

I agree with 'killman; it's kind of like having a "flagship Huey". It just doesn't make sense to call it that.

[thekillman]

thank you

[Princess Awinita]

Question time..... this time pertaining to ages of SG team members? what is the average minimum age of a basic soliders enlisted int he SGC program?

[thekillman]

no idea.



does anyone have a "map" of the milky way so we can determine where roughly the planets are?

[Amann]

a jumper is a gate-capable shuttlecraft meant for exploration etc. a "flagship" jumper that's bigger and better is not a puddlejumper.


i suggest simply an 80 meter or so ship, a design study built by these alesians. Amann went to test it, some random malfunction they haven't figured out yet and here they are.

perhaps I should explain what a flagship jumper is really used for. It is a big shuttle sorta for diplomats and officials that want a fair amount of protection, but can't really be assed to have a warship tagging them along. Some planets might not have stargates and a regular jumper just won't provide enough protection. The jumper is able to fly through a stargate, but it is only based on the jumper design, not really plays the role of a jumper itself.

[thekillman]

nah