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Originally posted by Semmer View PostOh why, oh why.. Why did I post when having a bad hangover...
Sorry guys, I wasn't trying to be arrogant, just having a bad, short temper day as some of you might know..
Now when reading my previous post it seems to be meant with some serious irony, and if I can read your posts as clear minded now, most of you didn't get it. So maybe it was indeed my linquistic skills that I lacked.
Oh, and for some of you to know... I've been around here a few years, reading, reading and reading, as a visitor.
Again, my apologizes.
And Immhotep, don't say you judge my models by the amount of details? They aren't actually finished yet.
Btw. boberth2o, your version of BC-305 looks extremely logical that would even fit to the show itself!
i wasnt judging the models on detail i was jsut saying that being cocky about models isnt the way to go, if they are really good we would tell you, Cooky isnt cocky about his and yet he an amazing modeller, as are several others. i was only saying that being cocky should only happen when your able to prove it consistantly.
If you have been around here for that long, which i actually doubt because ive been around longest and i havent been here that long. You would have posted and seen from lurking what has and hasnt been done. Those ship while of an above par quality are a pretty stardard kind of first ship people start of with and if you had been lurking you would have known that and tried to do something totally different and set your self up Much better. Also if you had been lurking you should know that im not the most argumentative and confrontational person here, im usually a very nice person so appologies from me, we all have bad days...we just happened to get it on the same day..
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very nice ship boberth2o, makes me think of a mothership for some reason.
Anyway just for kicks here is a contract that I am presenting.
Design a Bridge lay-out that can be used in any medium to large starship. It must have computer consols, chairs, and one door to get into and out of it. If you can think of something else you might need for a bridge, like a mondo cup holder, feel free to add it.
Have fun.
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Here we go; the Scopion type II; consider it 10-15 years after the first Scorpion Design
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Class: Scorpion Type II
Type: Heavy Escort
Length: 142m
Width: 90m (at widest point)
Height: 45m (at tallest point)
Tonnage: 520,000 Tons
Hull Makeup: The Main Armour of the Scorpion is made up of a triple layered armour prototype the outer and inner layer is made up of a composite of Trinium. Titanium and Naquada reinforced with Polly carbons and diamond helixes; the middle layer is composed of plate steel, Polly carbons and titanium. Between the bottom layer sits self-sealing foam; this foam congeals and expands when exposed to atmosphere sealing the breach. The top layer sits heat reactive materials these react and expand when exposed to a certain level of heat. For example an energy round breaching the outer armour. The Armour is designed for maximum survivability and has an extra layer of armour over the Type I.
Crew: 35 Ships Crew (15 Skeleton)
Troops: 20 Marines
Embarked Craft: None - Small Hanger up front for 2-puddle jumper sized craft
Cargo Capacity: None - Reserved For extra ammunition.
Power Core:
4 x Mk II Naquada Reactors (For ships systems)
1 x Mk II Naquadria Reactor With Buffer system (Engines, FTL, Shields)
Engines:
4 x High Output Ion Engines
2 x Medium Output Sub-light Engines
1 x Asgard Hyper drive
1 x Antigravity wave generator network
Weapons
4 x 203mm Fixed Forward Metal Storm fed Coil Guns (Nacelle mounted) - the Metal Storm Coil guns uses the new Metal storm system for rapid fire deployment of ordinance; instead of chambering a single round at a time. The MSCG loads five 105kg Solid Tungsten/Naquada slugs into the firing chamber by swapping out the base of the barrel with the Base of the barrel recessed and running the length of the 'wings' (As per standard for Metal storm systems). When loaded the Coil gun uses magnetic coils lining the barrel to pull each slug along the barrel accelerating it to 8% C (though faster speeds are possible with longer barrels). By the time the rounds are launched out towards their target for a large connecting force impact in the multiple megatons. Reloading is done via a rotary barrelled system. As one barrel is empty and fired another rotates into its place lines up and prepares to fire while the others are reloaded. Eight Barrels in all mean that the weapon can launch continuos fire using the triple salvo fired turret Fire control to keep up the constant rate of fire. These cannons are fixed and only face forward but can quickly equate a lot of damage on an enemy vessel using its agility to dart and weave between enemy fire.
4 x Dual 30x180mm Anti Ship Rail Gun Turrets With Interceptor Add on(Port, Starboard, Aft mounts) - The tried and true Rail gun emplacement in use by all Stargate command ships to date. Uses depleted uranium, Tungsten composite shells fired down two rails at rapid speed, useful best against smaller ships but can mount impressive damage when used in conduction with the main guns. Unlike the main guns these are turrets mounted they also boast an impressive rate of fire and unlike the type I are NOT retractable into the hull. However instead they do have a 360-degree firing arc and a secondary 'interceptor' fire mode. The interceptor relays on CIWS technology developed for wet navy ships called 'Goalkeeper' however the interceptor mode relies not only on the rapid firing of rounds but also along explosive fragmentation essentially putting up a screen of metal between the target and the enemy fire like a counter measure.
4 X MRLS Turrets (Various mounts) - More tried and true Earth technology the MRLS launches up to 8 Missiles in rapid succession in a sequential launch pattern. These turrets have a full 360-degree firing arch and a 90-degree vertical-firing arc. The turrets are retractable into the hull for extra protection and are required to do so to reload. Enough missiles for 10 full reload.
Vertical Launch System - the main Vertical launch system lines down the middle of the ship in two Duel banks of 12 tubes. Each capable of firing 30 anti-ship missiles; all warheads are Naquada enhanced nukes.
Horizontal Launch system - in addition to the VLS the ship also comes equipped with two Horizontal Launch batteries located ahead of the main guns either side of the ship. These missiles are a heavier payload than the VLS missiles with stronger warheads using Potassium and Naquada one of these warheads has a high enough yield to wipe out the entire state of Colorado. They are loaded into the firing tubes with an automated rotary loading system each has a supply of 6 missiles over 4 tubes (24 Missiles)
Secondary Horizontal Launch System - Built into the wings of the ship is a secondary missile launch platform; each battery has 30 tubes each capable of firing 6 missiles. The Secondary HLS uses the new 'Lancelot' triennium tipped hypersonic-penetrater missile capable of punching through a staggering 1200mm's of heavy Wraith armour at speeds of up to 300k/s^3
6 x forward mounted Directed Energy Cannons - these prototype plasma cannons are mounted either side of the hanger at the nose of the ship. Based loosely of Asgaurd designs Samantha Carter was able to sneak a peek at during her missions on the O'Niell Class and the Gou'uld designs that the SGC has had access to for a number of years has yielded earth's first energy weapon. This Plasma based energy cannon relays more on rapid rate of fire than each individual blast being overly powerful with each discharge weighing in at just over 25 megatons however with a discharge speed of five shots per second the damage quickly adds up. Scientists are already working on scaling up the prototype weapons to full scale working models for larger capital ships.
Defences
Asgaurd Shields
Reactive Trinium/Naquada armour plating
Reverse Engineered Al-Kesh Cloak
Tok'ra force-field technology.
Holographic Counter Measures
Other Technology
Asgard Beam technology
Human/Asgard Sensors
Chimera Holographic Camouflage
Ships of the Line
St Vincent - In Service
Collingwood - In Service
Warspite - Under construction
Conqueror - Planned
Revenge - Planned
Technical Details
The Scorpion Class type II is a quick and dirty warship designed at the British Stargate Operations agency as a solution to one of earth's main problems. The American DSC-304 Deadulus class was performing admirably however due to its large frame was quite costly and time consuming to produce only able to produce one per year. The war with the Wraith looming and getting into full swing the DSC-304, DD-305's were starting to find themselves heavily outnumbered by the Wraith opposition. With the HE-306 Scorpion class being plentiful in Earth defence fleet its main drawback was its main duty is as an escort vessel not meant for a full engagement with a large scale enemy deployment that earth was starting to see with the Wraith.
So the SGC was given the task of creating a cheap fast powerful no frills warship that could be churned out quickly and in large numbers to defend Atlantis from the Wraith. Not helping matters was that the First Unity Class Battleship was yet to have its Keel laid for at least a year so the gap needed to be filled; The Type II Scorpion is essentially a refit of the Type I scorpion. With several additions to its design making it a ship now able to go up against three or four Wraith Cruisers at any one time and come off best it is an impressive war machine. Several additions stand out from the Type I most notably with the weapons system which now uses the new 'Lancelot' heavy penetration missile, Directed Energy Cannons as well as the Holographic Counter Measures developed by Area 51 and an almost fully operable Al-Kesh cloak. On top of this is an additional Chimera Holographic Camouflage system.
The Chimera Holographic Camouflage works by creating an outer hologram over the ship like a cloak or mimic device allowing it to appear as a different ship for those times when cloaking is not an option.
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Originally posted by Hierakonpolis View PostI like it
Didnt you say a little while ago that you couldnt model?
Modest much?
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Enterprise Class (SCVN)
Class: Enterprise Class
Type: Fleet Carrier / Planetary Assault Carrier
Length: 1200m
Width: 220m (at widest point (Including two Flight pods)
Height: 110m (at tallest point)
Tonnage: 8.5 million metric tons
Hull Makeup: The Main Armour is made up of a triple layered armour prototype the outer and inner layer is made up of a composite of Trinium. Titanium and Naquada reinforced with Polly carbons and diamond helixes; the middle layer is composed of plate steel, Polly carbons and titanium. Between the bottom layer sits self-sealing foam, this foam congeals and expands when exposed to atmosphere sealing the breach. The top layer sits heat reactive materials these react and expand when exposed to a certain level of heat. For example an energy round breaching the outer armour. The Armour is designed for maximum survivability.
Crew: 200 Officers, 3000+ Enlisted
Troops: up to 20,000 Marines Maximum (Usually 6,000)
Embarked Craft:
144 F-302's
30 Landing Craft
Cargo Capacity: Plenty
Power Core:
6 x Mk II Naquada Reactors (For ships systems)
1 x Earth Built First Generation Neutron-Ion Reactor
Engines:
2 x High Output Ion Engines
6 x Medium Output Sub-light Engines
1 x Asgard Hyper drive
1 x Antigravity wave generator network
Weapons
4 x Triple Barrelled 8 inch Heavy Anti-ship Rail guns
9 x 16 inch Quad Barrel Ground Bombardment Cannons
256 Light Defensive Rail guns (128 per broadside)
96 Heavy K-NAQ Ground Bombardment Missiles Silos (6 Missiles per silo)
240 Parisian Strike Bombardment Missile Tubes (30 Missiles per Silo)
Defences
Asgaurd Designed Shields
Reactive Trinium/Naquada armour plating
Tok'ra force-field technology.
Holographic Counter Measures
Other Technology
Asgard Beam technology
Human/Asgard Sensors
Ships of the Line
Enterprise- in Service
Monarch - Under Construction
Ramillies - Planned
Repulse - Planned
Technical Details
The Enterprise Class is Earth's Primary Fleet Carrier just like its wet navy equivalent. The Enterprise can drop out of Hyperspace and quickly achieve air superiority over an Ori or Wraith occupied planet and launch a siege assault with its mass transporters and assault shuttles. For this task the ship has several heavy bombardment 'God-rod' guns and K-NAQ Missile Silos' as well as precision strike missile tubes but all of these are focused on ground assault. The ship has very little in the way of anti-ship weapons relying on 8 inch Anti-ship Rail-guns and its strong shields for protection should it come under attack. The Enterprise class is meant to act as part of a battle group.sigpic
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Originally posted by boberth2o View PostGuess so eh? well i have actually put hours already into it so that helps a bit
Keep up the modeling, Id like to see it in a better 3D program in the future
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Originally posted by Hierakonpolis View PostThats the difference between an artist and a great artist. The great ones have patience and know how to spend their time on their stuff.
Keep up the modeling, Id like to see it in a better 3D program in the future
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