This wasn't mentioned in the episode, Atlantis has never been mentioned to store power anywhere but in the ZPMs, the shield generators just generate the shields from whatever power they get from the grid, even if power transfer was limited that would be enough to prove my original point since the conduits would only be able to transfer so much power all over the ship, so even if you had an unlimited power source it wouldn't matter as whatever weapons fired by your enemy could overcome your shield generators abilities to hold off an attack.
Regardless of what happens on other ships or in other series Atlantis has never been mentioned to store power in buffers before routing it to the shield generators/emitters, there was no loss of power mentioned for the shields only engines and Drone firing.
Atlantis feeds power from ZPMs, through it's grid to the systems, the ZPMs weren't depleted in line with the shield damage.
The shields were knocked down a certain percentage per the Hive's salvos until they nearly dropped (passing through the Atmosphere caused the final failure).
The Barrier has to have been depleted, there's no other explanation.
Regardless of what happens on other ships or in other series Atlantis has never been mentioned to store power in buffers before routing it to the shield generators/emitters, there was no loss of power mentioned for the shields only engines and Drone firing.
Atlantis feeds power from ZPMs, through it's grid to the systems, the ZPMs weren't depleted in line with the shield damage.
The shields were knocked down a certain percentage per the Hive's salvos until they nearly dropped (passing through the Atmosphere caused the final failure).
The Barrier has to have been depleted, there's no other explanation.
btw if the shield itself really did get 30% damage (like a wall) then they'd have mentioned where the damage was located. in fact mentioning a damage % in this case wouldn't even make sense (when a cannonball blasts through a brickwall the wall is perfectly intact everywhere except at impact point – therefore you can't evaluate the damage to the wall in terms of % because that implies uniform damage. maybe you can perform some sort of complex integral calculation to come up with a mean figure that represents the "average" damage to the wall as a whole but that would be plain silly not to mention outright impractical as it wouldn't reflect the real situation anyway)
in other words the very fact that they mentioned a % means the shield itself remained even and also wasn't damaged (its amplitude was reduced but that's not damage)
one more thing : since you assume that the % represents the shield damage and that the power supply is meant to repair the shield, then we'd basically have dialogue along the lines of this :
"shields down to 70% ! [1 or 2 seconds later] shields back to 100% !"
lol
A shield generator creates the actual shield, I don't remember Atlantis being mentioned to have shield emitters just shield generators.
Why would you need a generator if you already had a power supply like a ZPM?
Maybe Todd's storing them away for a rainy day.
Originally posted by SoulRe@ver
I don't see how it's an inconsistency, I really don't
, Hives or Wraith vessels in general are used to having minuscule quantities of power to work with, this Hive gets hundreds of times the norm or whatever the difference is between the usual generators abilities.
ZPMs like high octane fuel for a Hive I guess.
ZPMs like high octane fuel for a Hive I guess.
They're still not powered off of anything like a ZPM and they don't get completely drained of whatever power sources they use in that time, actual power can't be all that's an issue, Wraith weapon tech, the actual guns must create some massive shield eating effect or something.
It's made for the general public or the general sci-fi audience, not necessarily knowledgeable people.
The fact that it's interesting and has a compelling story are the most important things.
The fact that it's interesting and has a compelling story are the most important things.
I love most of the Stargate humor, some unintentional stuff is funny too as long as you don't end up in fits of laughter at the wrong moment.
Like I said before I may have said wall and used the building analogy, but I just meant made of particles, I guess sprayed out around the ship or whatever, which could be done pretty quickly.
It's a barrier, something that blocks impacts=wall and has to be built.
It's a barrier, something that blocks impacts=wall and has to be built.
first to reiterate the water example : water surface can also be considered a barrier, and if you poke a stick into the water you are effectively creating a hole in the water. problem is this hole cannot be called "damage" because as soon as you retrieve the stick the water surface returns to its original "planar" shape – and most importantly it does so without requiring outside energy (in fact the planar shape corresponds to a minimal energy configuration – minimal surface tension to be exact – meaning that when returning to its original form the water actually loses energy instead of gaining some). basically the forcefield is being modified at point of impact but that's not "static" and it can't be called damage (that'd make no sense)
now obviously this isn't so for a wall, to repair the damage made by a cannonball you'd need quite a bit of energy (that of the workers repairing the wall) depending on extent of damage but point is there will always be an energy input
another example perhaps closer to the forcefield : a trampoline. jumping on the trampoline will deform it, but as soon as no force is exerted the trampoline will return to its original shape (minimal tension, minimal potential energy). the power supply required is merely the effort needed to keep the trampoline stretched (imagine 2 people holding the trampoline on each side). again this has nothing to do with damage
basically a forcefield repels energy & that's why it needs power to do so
Did you actually check it after I posted?
Energy is actually passing inside of Odyssey's shields, you can see it, it's not focused after it hits the shield but it is inside of it.
The bleed through does happen.
Energy is actually passing inside of Odyssey's shields, you can see it, it's not focused after it hits the shield but it is inside of it.
The bleed through does happen.
and no I didn't check it (there was no link)
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