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From "Reckoning, Part II"
DAKARA. TEMPLE CHAMBER. Jacob is looking at the console as Sam drags a large case in. She opens the case and takes out a naqahdah generator. Jacob rests his fingers on the console and a screen lights up on the wall behind him. He turns and looks at it and sees Ancient text scrolling across it.
JACOB: Sam? (Sam looks up from the generator.) You might wanna hold off on that for a minute. If I’m reading this screen right, the weapon uses an energy wave to reduce all matter to its basic molecular elements. It’s not strong enough to disintegrate an entire planet, but it will wash away everything on a planet’s surface and everything in the surrounding space.
CARTER: Sounds bad.
JACOB: I know – but it also sounds like it does it much the same way your disrupter technology works on the Replicators – by separating the individual components.
From "Threads"
JIM: I know. That’s a tough one. (He slides his new newspaper across the counter to Daniel.) Speaking of which, have you seen the latest? (Daniel opens the new copy of The Ascended Times. The main headline reads: “Secret Plan Revealed. Anubis’ dastardly plot to regain Ancient Weapon of Destruction”.) He’s a crafty one. Really knows the ins and outs of the rules. I give him three to one odds to succeed. Wanna know the irony of it all? That device was originally used by the Ancients to create life in the Milky Way ... well, recreate it after the whole plague thing. No kidding. Now it all gets undone with the push of one button, leaving Anubis to recreate things all over to his own liking. There’s a waste of a million-odd years of evolution, huh? (He turns around to the customers in the diner and calls out to them.) I say someone should really do something to stop him! (The customers take no notice. Jim waves his hand dismissively at them and turns back to Daniel.) But no-one will. (He calls out to the kitchen.) Can I get a coffee?
From "The Fifth Race"
ASGARD 1: Understand this, there was once an alliance of four great races in the galaxy; the Asgard, the Nox...
JACK: Met them.
ASGARD 1: ...the Furlings...
JACK: Don't know them.
ASGARD 1: ...and the Ancients, the builders of the Stargates.
JACK: Pretty heady group.
ASGARD 1: The alliance was built over many millennia. Your race has much to prove before we may interact on that level.
You're absolutely right the teaching the romans in any form would have been against the rules. However, maybe the ancient that did it was punished in some horrible way, or voted out of the glowing cloud club after he/she had already taught the humans.
In "Ascension," Orin recaporialized and the others didn't care much- even after he used his knowledge to make emeralds and stargates. And he was an ascended that, like Oma, you'd expect to be watched closely. The other ascended beings only came into the picture when we tried to power up the gun.
From "Window of Opportunity"
DANIEL: Err.with the help of Teal'C and (he points at Jack and raises his eyebrows).Jack I've managed to complete the translation. (Jack and Teal'C look up.) As I originally suspected P4X 639 was once a colony of the Ancients. They thrived there for thousands of years until they were struck by some sort of unspecified cataclysm, perhaps a disease, but we'll never really know for sure. In any case facing certain destruction they built a time machine.
JACK: They were going to go back and change their history, to avoid their fate.
DANIEL: Right, but it didn't work. Instead of sending a team of scientists back to the key moment in their history the device caused a short term continuous loop. Just like the one we've been experiencing. They experienced the same day dozens perhaps hundreds of times trying to get the machine to work but in the end they gave up, they shut it down and.let the end come.
[also]
JACK: Looks familiar.
DANIEL: It should, it's something that you spoke for a few days. It's a variation of the writings used by the ancients.
[also]
DANNY: We finished translating the text on the ruins. The antients who built this place never got it to work. They tried over & over again, just like you, but in the end, they gave up. Why do you think this place has been deserted so long? They couldn't save themselves.
AG: You're wrong! There must be some other explination. I know I can make this work.
DANNY: You can't. They proved it can't be done. You're just gonna go on like this forever, you'll be trapped.
Agreed.
I also think "The Brotherhood" also showed they lived together.
From "Rising I"
ANCIENT HOLOGRAM: In time a thousand worlds bore the fruit of life in this form. Then one day our people stepped foot on a dark world where a terrible enemy slept. Never before had we encountered beings with powers that rivaled our own. In our over confidence, we weren't prepared and outnumbered. The enemy fed upon defenseless human worlds like a great Schrage until finally only Atlantis remained.
So in this much-debated excerpt, she says the worlds were only populated with beings "in this form". She also names humans specifically. Wich, of course, clashes with the statement in "Before I sleep" where the ancient himself calls Weir a "second evolution of this form"
The point i was trying to make was that the wraith in "The Defiant One" had only been able to feed on species that existed prior to his ship crashing (and i suppose those glowy things). Which would suggest, as above, that humans and atlantians were seperate and lived at the same time.
See above. I've given up trying to sync real (scientific) dates with ones given in the show.
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Originally posted by Jarnin
DAKARA. TEMPLE CHAMBER. Jacob is looking at the console as Sam drags a large case in. She opens the case and takes out a naqahdah generator. Jacob rests his fingers on the console and a screen lights up on the wall behind him. He turns and looks at it and sees Ancient text scrolling across it.
JACOB: Sam? (Sam looks up from the generator.) You might wanna hold off on that for a minute. If I’m reading this screen right, the weapon uses an energy wave to reduce all matter to its basic molecular elements. It’s not strong enough to disintegrate an entire planet, but it will wash away everything on a planet’s surface and everything in the surrounding space.
CARTER: Sounds bad.
JACOB: I know – but it also sounds like it does it much the same way your disrupter technology works on the Replicators – by separating the individual components.
From "Threads"
JIM: I know. That’s a tough one. (He slides his new newspaper across the counter to Daniel.) Speaking of which, have you seen the latest? (Daniel opens the new copy of The Ascended Times. The main headline reads: “Secret Plan Revealed. Anubis’ dastardly plot to regain Ancient Weapon of Destruction”.) He’s a crafty one. Really knows the ins and outs of the rules. I give him three to one odds to succeed. Wanna know the irony of it all? That device was originally used by the Ancients to create life in the Milky Way ... well, recreate it after the whole plague thing. No kidding. Now it all gets undone with the push of one button, leaving Anubis to recreate things all over to his own liking. There’s a waste of a million-odd years of evolution, huh? (He turns around to the customers in the diner and calls out to them.) I say someone should really do something to stop him! (The customers take no notice. Jim waves his hand dismissively at them and turns back to Daniel.) But no-one will. (He calls out to the kitchen.) Can I get a coffee?
Originally posted by Jarnin
From "The Fifth Race"
ASGARD 1: Understand this, there was once an alliance of four great races in the galaxy; the Asgard, the Nox...
JACK: Met them.
ASGARD 1: ...the Furlings...
JACK: Don't know them.
ASGARD 1: ...and the Ancients, the builders of the Stargates.
JACK: Pretty heady group.
ASGARD 1: The alliance was built over many millennia. Your race has much to prove before we may interact on that level.
Originally posted by Jarnin
In "Ascension," Orin recaporialized and the others didn't care much- even after he used his knowledge to make emeralds and stargates. And he was an ascended that, like Oma, you'd expect to be watched closely. The other ascended beings only came into the picture when we tried to power up the gun.
Originally posted by Jarnin
DANIEL: Err.with the help of Teal'C and (he points at Jack and raises his eyebrows).Jack I've managed to complete the translation. (Jack and Teal'C look up.) As I originally suspected P4X 639 was once a colony of the Ancients. They thrived there for thousands of years until they were struck by some sort of unspecified cataclysm, perhaps a disease, but we'll never really know for sure. In any case facing certain destruction they built a time machine.
JACK: They were going to go back and change their history, to avoid their fate.
DANIEL: Right, but it didn't work. Instead of sending a team of scientists back to the key moment in their history the device caused a short term continuous loop. Just like the one we've been experiencing. They experienced the same day dozens perhaps hundreds of times trying to get the machine to work but in the end they gave up, they shut it down and.let the end come.
[also]
JACK: Looks familiar.
DANIEL: It should, it's something that you spoke for a few days. It's a variation of the writings used by the ancients.
[also]
DANNY: We finished translating the text on the ruins. The antients who built this place never got it to work. They tried over & over again, just like you, but in the end, they gave up. Why do you think this place has been deserted so long? They couldn't save themselves.
AG: You're wrong! There must be some other explination. I know I can make this work.
DANNY: You can't. They proved it can't be done. You're just gonna go on like this forever, you'll be trapped.
Originally posted by Jarnin
Originally posted by Jarnin
From "Rising I"
ANCIENT HOLOGRAM: In time a thousand worlds bore the fruit of life in this form. Then one day our people stepped foot on a dark world where a terrible enemy slept. Never before had we encountered beings with powers that rivaled our own. In our over confidence, we weren't prepared and outnumbered. The enemy fed upon defenseless human worlds like a great Schrage until finally only Atlantis remained.
So in this much-debated excerpt, she says the worlds were only populated with beings "in this form". She also names humans specifically. Wich, of course, clashes with the statement in "Before I sleep" where the ancient himself calls Weir a "second evolution of this form"
Originally posted by Jarnin
Originally posted by Jarnin
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