Fanfic Writers' Virtual Water Cooler

[WraithRichard]

True, it does. Ghost of Silver Cliff is amazing.

[Choo1701]

i gave up on comics a long time ago. justice league used to be just great, funny and angsty...then you'd get 'hits' like Gen 13 where the biggest draw (no pun intended) was the lead female getting in a plane crash that, wonder that, just happened to rip her clothing into barely covering bits.

just got too OTT to me. they cranked out as much as they could, as quickly as they could, and they were pretty much shallow junk.

got tired of it, and the endless rebooting everytime the writers got themselves in a twist

TBH i'd say 'things have changed' but 'DC Comics' is shutting its doors in August, and then a new comic house called 'DC Comics' is launching in September, sssooooooo

And i COULD defend the comic book industry, but i don't like THOSE types of comics too begin with Anyone remeber Cam Mitchell's wise words about 'the audience' in 200? (theres no transcript on GW...darn it)

Having a library with a fantastic stock of graphic novels, and finding James Robinson 'Starman' series first was a gift from the nerd gods!

Ever heard of 'Maus' Skydiver?

[Princess Awinita]

Ever heard of 'Maus' Skydiver?

Yes, and it was cool, though I'm not Sky, Maus was a really cool gaphic novel serial, I loved how the cats were the germans, and the mice were the Polish or the jews, It felt, well, it felt like a new way of seeing the Nazi Germany movement to me, if it offends anyone of how I am saying this I merely mean it is a new way of looking at WWII, at least to me, I nerrver envisioned it that way before.

[fems]

MITCHELL
Never underestimate your audience. They're generally sensitive, intelligent people who respond positively to quality entertainment.

[Choo1701]

EDIT: whoa. Got ninja'd by fem. Thanks Fem, couldn't remeber that line!

Yes, and it was cool, though I'm not Sky, Maus was a really cool gaphic novel serial, I loved how the cats were the germans, and the mice were the Polish or the jews, It felt, well, it felt like a new way of seeing the Nazi Germany movement to me, if it offends anyone of how I am saying this I merely mean it is a new way of looking at WWII, at least to me, I nerrver envisioned it that way before.

To explain her highness excitement a little bit more clearly:

Maus: A Survivor's Tale, by Art Spiegelman, is a biography of the author's father, Vladek Spiegelman, a Polish Jew and Holocaust survivor. It alternates between descriptions of Vladek's life in Poland before and during the Second World War and Vladek's later life in the Rego Park neighborhood of New York City. The work is a graphic narrative in which Jews are depicted as mice, while Germans are depicted as cats.

[Princess Awinita]

To explain her highness excitement a little bit more clearly:

Much thanks and yes, mostly by way of the food chain the cats are up there whereas the mice are not, its a good story, two books I think it was, read them both. it was really well written

[mathpiglet]

*cleans the counter, restocks the snacks*

[SaraBahama]

*brings in tray of seasonal fruit and fruit dip, sets it on the counter that mathpiglet has obviously cleaned*

Quiet around here...

I was just thinking that it is crazy how you can be laboring so diligently on a fic, and be getting nowhere, and all of a sudden a ficlet will practically write itself in your head. WHAT IS THAT ABOUT?

I still need inspiration to smack me upside the head on the the main fic!!! *grumbles incoherently*

[WraithRichard]

My fics keep inspiring my friend to draw crazy SGA pictures. I'm not sure if I'm flattered or convinced we're both insane.

[Aragon101]

Shrug, inspiration is no problem almost ever, i'm filled with ideas. I just want that damn USB to Brain connection so i can actually you know... write it all down! :@ :@ :@

It's the fact that even at top speed, i can only write so much, and then i realise i need it betaed by someone who rather than knows how to speak the english language with eloquence, can actually WRITE with eloquence! :@ :@ :@

[WraithRichard]

Shrug, inspiration is no problem almost ever, i'm filled with ideas. I just want that damn USB to Brain connection so i can actually you know... write it all down! :@ :@ :@

It's the fact that even at top speed, i can only write so much, and then i realise i need it betaed by someone who rather than knows how to speak the english language with eloquence, can actually WRITE with eloquence! :@ :@ :@

Same here.

I need to find someone to trade betaing with.

[Aragon101]

Well it also depends what kind of beta you're after. I'm particularly partial to technical minded betas with a good grasp of grammar. (totally didn't mean that allieration, it just came out )

In simpler terms, someone to give my nonsensical fantasy some depth

If i ever beta something, i'll typically focus on characters and their interaction. That's what i'm good at! (big happy dog smile)

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[fems]

Personally I would find it unfair towards a beta to rely on them to turn your crap into a good story, especially if you expect them to do the whole technical stuff. After all, you're the one who's (supposed to be) writing the fic, not them. In my mind a beta is someone who checks your stuff for spelling, grammar, characterization, consistency, facts, plots etc and will raise questions about anything left unclear or simply point out badly written lines/scenes/chapters. Some input from an area of their expertise would come in handy, but you are the one that's writing the fic. You can't expect them to rewrite your entire story.

[Goose]

Personally I would find it unfair towards a beta to rely on them to turn your crap into a good story, especially if you expect them to do the whole technical stuff. After all, you're the one who's (supposed to be) writing the fic, not them. In my mind a beta is someone who checks your stuff for spelling, grammar, characterization, consistency, facts, plots etc and will raise questions about anything left unclear or simply point out badly written lines/scenes/chapters. Some input from an area of their expertise would come in handy, but you are the one that's writing the fic. You can't expect them to rewrite your entire story.

Amen!

[Skydiver]

what I expect from my beta

find my typos
Point out plot holes
don't be afraid to tell me 'umm, would this character really do this????'

then, as I should listen to the first 2 points, if we disagree about the third one, don't get yer knickers in a knot because maybe I see the character differently from you.