Continuing Stargate

[SG-18]

no clue.

anybody seen any good movies lately? I wanna see 2012.

Saw public enemies a few weeks ago. not too bad actually.

[Jeffala]

I want to see Brothers and That Evening Sun.

[Aragon101]

no clue.

anybody seen any good movies lately? I wanna see 2012.

Saw public enemies a few weeks ago. not too bad actually.

my brother explained 2012 to me like this.

Armageddon (Bruce Willus Movie) - 3/10 for story, 7/10 for visuals
Deep Impact (Another metear story): 8/10 for story, 5/10 for visuals
Day after Tomorrow: 7/10 for story, 8/10 for visuals
2012: 6.5/10 for story, 11/10 for visuals

So i dunno... he said it was like Michael Bay directed it, but at the same time, it was lacking in the Michael Bay "Explosions = Plot" mentality and actually came out remarkably well. i really wanna go see it

P.S. I asked him about that scene in teh trailer where the car drives out of the falling plane, and he said that that's one of the LESS intense scenes :O

[AVFan]

Armageddon (Bruce Willus Movie) - 3/10 for story, 7/10 for visuals
Day after Tomorrow: 7/10 for story, 8/10 for visuals

Really? Day after tomorrow, better? That was cool visuals, but terrible plot IMO. I thought that Armageddon was really good in almost every aspect. Comparable to Independence Day I thought.

[Aragon101]

Really? Day after tomorrow, better? That was cool visuals, but terrible plot IMO. I thought that Armageddon was really good in almost every aspect. Comparable to Independence Day I thought.

Independance Day outclasses Armageddon totally IMO. Sure there were moments, but nowehere near as many as Armageddon.

Day after Tomorrow's story was weakish, but i still believe it more than Armageddon. Yes the Armageddon characters were fun as hell (Who can forget Steve Buschemi?), but i can't believe them at all compared to the characters in DAT. I actually think it's harder to compare those two movies as evne though the plots are similar, the story telling methods are somewhat different.

I don't want to say Armageddon was stupid, but Day After Tomorrow did make me think more than "none of them want to pay taxes... ever."

purely personal, Armageddon is plenty of fun, but Deep Impact and Day after Tomorrow both beat it from my perspective. I like them all, just like DI and DAT more

going to watch 2012 on the weekend. should be fun

[bradly08]

Independance Day outclasses Armageddon totally IMO. Sure there were moments, but nowehere near as many as Armageddon.

Day after Tomorrow's story was weakish, but i still believe it more than Armageddon. Yes the Armageddon characters were fun as hell (Who can forget Steve Buschemi?), but i can't believe them at all compared to the characters in DAT. I actually think it's harder to compare those two movies as evne though the plots are similar, the story telling methods are somewhat different.

I don't want to say Armageddon was stupid, but Day After Tomorrow did make me think more than "none of them want to pay taxes... ever."

purely personal, Armageddon is plenty of fun, but Deep Impact and Day after Tomorrow both beat it from my perspective. I like them all, just like DI and DAT more

going to watch 2012 on the weekend. should be fun

I hated Independace day beacause it portrared the Americans as "Saviours of the Universe". It glorified America

[Aragon101]

I hated Independace day beacause it portrared the Americans as "Saviours of the Universe". It glorified America

And all the scenes at the end where the world united?

Actually, look up a movie called "Star Wreck", it's an independant parody of Star Trek and Babylon 5 that might be more your taste if you don't like American glorification and love impressive visuals.

Personally i detest movies that take extra care in bashing America. I'm not an american myself, nor do i even like america to a great degree (i'm Canadian) but it feels just as stupid as American screaming "Freedom fries"

[bradly08]

And all the scenes at the end where the world united?

Actually, look up a movie called "Star Wreck", it's an independant parody of Star Trek and Babylon 5 that might be more your taste if you don't like American glorification and love impressive visuals.

Personally i detest movies that take extra care in bashing America. I'm not an american myself, nor do i even like america to a great degree (i'm Canadian) but it feels just as stupid as American screaming "Freedom fries"

I have no problem with america, it just you see in movies all the time that America is the best and will get the job done. Its ok sometimes but after a while it just gets really annoying.

[EvilSpaceAlien]

I have no problem with america, it just you see in movies all the time that America is the best and will get the job done. Its ok sometimes but after a while it just gets really annoying.

Indeed. Can't people from some other country be the heroes sometime? Perhaps Liechtenstein...

Actually, look up a movie called "Star Wreck", it's an independant parody of Star Trek and Babylon 5 that might be more your taste if you don't like American glorification and love impressive visuals.

I loved that movie. I though it was one of the best parodies I've seen in years. And usually I don't even like parodies. The visual effects was just amazing. It's amazing what they did with a buget of ca. 13 000 euro.

[Dr. Daedalus]

I have no problem with america, it just you see in movies all the time that America is the best and will get the job done.

Well from a historical standpoint that has been true most of the time (Full disclosure: I am an American). Sure we have had our low points (Vietnam for instance) but the U.S.A did save the world from Hitler and later Communism.

Personally i detest movies that take extra care in bashing America.

As do I. I am fine with movies like G.I. Joe where NATO not the U.S. was the main goodguy. It just gets annoying when movies (most of which are made in the U.S. ironically) bash the U.S. for no reason.

Dr. D

[EvilSpaceAlien]

Well from a historical standpoint that has been true most of the time (Full disclosure: I am an American). Sure we have had our low points (Vietnam for instance) but the U.S.A did save the world from Hitler and later Communism.

Dr. D

Please remind me how you saved the world from communism, because I can't seem to remember that ever happening. The Soviet Union disolved due to internal problems, not because of something the americans did. I'll give the Hitler thing, but you would never had been able to defeat Hitler without the Russians and the British. That goes both ways because the Russians and the British would never had been able to defeat them without you either.

[Aragon101]

Please remind me how you saved the world from communism, because I can't seem to remember that ever happening. The Soviet Union disolved due to internal problems, not because of something the americans did. I'll give the Hitler thing, but you would never had been able to defeat Hitler without the Russians and the British. That goes both ways because the Russians and the British would never had been able to defeat them without you either.

America spent alot of time and effort "fighting" communism both in battle (Korea, Vietnam Etc( as well as 'black ops" (Afghanistan for instance). There's likely much more we don't know about but by taking a stand against communism, it didn't grow as much as it cauld have. Of course it's all coming to bite them in teh ass but it's still a part of history. Goes the other way as well, how many russian spies were found out in teh US and UK?

[bradly08]

Well from a historical standpoint that has been true most of the time (Full disclosure: I am an American). Sure we have had our low points (Vietnam for instance) but the U.S.A did save the world from Hitler and later Communism.

Ok

A) You didnt save the world from Hitler, the Russians did. (As hard as it is to admit) the Russians even saved Britian from being invaded. They bore the brunt of the Nazis and by D-Day, The German Army was no-where near as affective as it was in 1939 (Even though we knew who to better fight them thanks to the campain in North Africa.) At the end of the war the Russians, ahd so much momentum that they could have hit the English Channel within 2 weeks. This is one of the main problems I have with Americans. They think it was them who beat Hitler.

America spent alot of time and effort "fighting" communism both in battle (Korea, Vietnam Etc( as well as 'black ops" (Afghanistan for instance). There's likely much more we don't know about but by taking a stand against communism, it didn't grow as much as it cauld have. Of course it's all coming to bite them in teh ass but it's still a part of history. Goes the other way as well, how many russian spies were found out in teh US and UK?

Fair enough, but you were fighting smaller countries who only had the support of the Soviet Union. The americans didnt actually take on the Russian Nation its self. Korea and Vietnam were just playing fields so that Americans could take on the soviets in limited numbers.

The soviet Union collapsed beacause it pumped soo much money into the military to try and keep up with the Americans. their infrastructure just couldn't cope and they went bankrupt.

[Aragon101]

Ok

A) You didnt save the world from Hitler, the Russians did. (As hard as it is to admit) the Russians even saved Britian from being invaded. They bore the brunt of the Nazis and by D-Day, The German Army was no-where near as affective as it was in 1939 (Even though we knew who to better fight them thanks to the campain in North Africa.) At the end of the war the Russians, ahd so much momentum that they could have hit the English Channel within 2 weeks. This is one of the main problems I have with Americans. They think it was them who beat Hitler.

i think we all saved each other at this point. And if you'll recall, the Russians had treaties with the Germans which was dissolved when Hitler invaded. The US gave the UK support, and i seem to recall a story about Churchill celebrating and having a drink when he heard Pearl Harbor was bombed. i think he was quoted at that moment whic hwas one of darker days in Britain as saying "We've won the war."

Fair enough, but you were fighting smaller countries who only had the support of the Soviet Union. The americans didnt actually take on the Russian Nation its self. Korea and Vietnam were just playing fields so that Americans could take on the soviets in limited numbers.

The soviet Union collapsed beacause it pumped soo much money into the military to try and keep up with the Americans. their infrastructure just couldn't cope and they went bankrupt.

First off, i'm not american, second, the americans' didn't take on the USSR because that would have caused WW3. Instead they used subversive tactics to win the "cold war". Just because hte states didn't launch a massive shock and awe campaign to rid the world of communism doesn't mean they were any less responsible.

If the US hadn't taken on Korea and Vietnam, the USSR and China would have grown much larger and potentially would have had enough economy and infrastructure to keep up to the states and maybe even take it on.

The US was still responsible to some degree the collapse of the soviet union. just because it wasn't with bombs doesn't make them any less culpable.

[thekillman]

america is the only country, which you will believe has alien contacts, nuke aliens, and let everyone have dozens of guns with ease.


i do not see stargate as possible in my own county, for example.



i think america glorifying or bashing is nessecary. america might be glorified, but only if the other countries are not stupidified.