The Seed - Continuum Plothole!!

[jenks]

This is incredibly painful to read. The Carter to see at the end of Continuum is 'our' Carter, the Carter to see in the rest of the movie isn't. For all intents and purposes, in relation to 'our' timeline, the events of Continuum never happened. Carter wasn't gone for a year, this thread makes no sense.

[Jack_Bauer]

This is incredibly painful to read. The Carter to see at the end of Continuum is 'our' Carter, the Carter to see in the rest of the movie isn't. For all intents and purposes, in relation to 'our' timeline, the events of Continuum never happened. Carter wasn't gone for a year, this thread makes no sense.

You've got to be kidding me.......

[jenks]

The reality you see at the beginning of Continuum isn't 'our' reality, she might never have contracted the pathogen at all in that one.

[Jack_Bauer]

The reality you see at the beginning of Continuum isn't 'our' reality, she might never have contracted the pathogen at all in that one.

Incorrect.

It begins as our reality and then changes as they travel into the alternate timeline where the Stargate was never uncovered. Sam, Daniel and Cam travel between realties, and if she had the pathogen, she would have taken it with her.

[jenks]

Incorrect.

It begins as our reality and then changes as they travel into the alternate timeline where the Stargate was never uncovered. Sam, Daniel and Cam travel between realties, and if she had the pathogen, she would have taken it with her.

False. The only reality that is ours is the one at the end of the film.

[Jack_Bauer]

Yes, BUT (and this is where you have to pay attention), the Sam Carter at the beginning of the film, the one that got stuck in the timeline where Ba'al destroys the Earth, had the same past as the Sam Carter we are left with at the end of the movie. Meaning that both of these Carters went to Atlantis, both were in the lab with the pathogen and both could develop the syptoms.

That clear enough for you?

[jenks]

Yes, BUT (and this is where you have to pay attention), the Sam Carter at the beginning of the film, the one that got stuck in the timeline where Ba'al destroys the Earth, had the same past as the Sam Carter we are left with at the end of the movie. Meaning that both of these Carters went to Atlantis, both were in the lab with the pathogen and both could develop the syptoms.

That clear enough for you?

How could you possibly know that?

[Jack_Bauer]

How could you possibly know that?

Cos i'm not an idiot...

[jenks]

Could have fooled me.

[Jack_Bauer]

Could have fooled me.

Nah i prefer to just prove you wrong...

[FallenAngelII]

This is incredibly painful to read. The Carter to see at the end of Continuum is 'our' Carter, the Carter to see in the rest of the movie isn't. For all intents and purposes, in relation to 'our' timeline, the events of Continuum never happened. Carter wasn't gone for a year, this thread makes no sense.

The two timelines were identical up until that point, though. Everything was identical, down to who was present and what had been said.

a YEAR!.. Keller started after about a month .. Lorend and a few others a short time after that..
its safe to say that the incubation period is somewhere around a month.. while Carter went a FULL YEAR! and nothing..

this is a clear...

PLOTHOLE!!

It's only a plot hole if it cannot be explained. "There could be any number of physiological factors...". Why do some people develop AIDS shortly after contracting HIV yet there are people who've gone more than 10 years without developing AIDS?

Incorrect.

It begins as our reality and then changes as they travel into the alternate timeline where the Stargate was never uncovered. Sam, Daniel and Cam travel between realties, and if she had the pathogen, she would have taken it with her.

It begins as an alternate timeline. That alternate timeline is then changed and that SG-1 travels back in time and sets things right in another timeline; our timeline.

How could you possibly know that?

Because chaos theory states that if you change even the slighest thing, big changes might occur. And we are lead to believe at the end of the movie that that timeline is identical to the 1st one before everything changed.

This is where we go "Hmmm... you'd think big changes were going to happen what with Cam's influence on the timeline and all". But then again, this is speculation as there's no official source stating this.

So it's up for interpretation, really.

[jenks]

Actually, other than the fact that SG-1 plus O'neill are at the extraction ceremony, there's nothing to even suggest that the two realities are similar, let alone to 'lead us to believe' that they're identical. Personally I'd rather reconcile it in such a way that makes sense, rather than makes a plot hole.

[FallenAngelII]

Actually, other than the fact that SG-1 plus O'neill are at the extraction ceremony, there's nothing to even suggest that the two realities are similar, let alone to 'lead us to believe' that they're identical.

1) The way they're lined up, Jack, Sam, Cam, Daniel, Vala, even their positions both in relations to each other and in the temple.
2) Whatever the hell that is hanging on Jack's jacket.
3) Vala's hairpin.
4) Cam saying SG-1 and Jack had made it out like a big deal.

If something as big as Sam not contracting a patogen that might or might not be influencing her didn't happen, something as small as where in the temple each member is standing should've changed.

Meanwhile, what's there to suggest the two weren't identical?

Here's a better question: Shouldn't the world be super-doomed because of what happened in "The Last Man"? I'm gonna make a thread about this.

[Jack_Bauer]

Meanwhile, what's there to suggest the two weren't identical?

Nothing, but watch jenks try to argue her/his point anyway...

[redrama9]

It was mentioned in the episode that Carter was quarantined on earth. One can then assume that the quarantine of carter occurred before the execution of Ba'al.