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They say the geek never gets the girl...what about the girl getting the geek?
Rodney/Teyla...it could happen
spoilers for "200"
Spoiler:Gen. Hammond: It has to spin, it's round! Spinning is so much cooler than not spinning. I'm the general, and I want it to spin!
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Vala: Are you saying that General O'Neill is...
Cam: My daddy?
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We always complained that SG-1's and Atlantis's heroes don't have family life. Can you imagine so many lonely people without girlfriend and boyfriend? And it wasn't acceptable for me, that they didn't want to have wife, husband, or a child because they worked so hard for Earth. Ok, the writers used this plot with early Jack, than with Daniel through Shifu,than Vala through Adria, but I like that Teyla became a mother with a "normal" baby. What can be a next step? Will somebody have a working marriage too?"I was hoping for another day. Looks like we just got a whole lot more than that. Let's not waste it."
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Originally posted by The6thRace View PostIs it just me, or there a huge error in this one? The fighters on the Daedalus were constantly being referred to as 'F-302s'. I thought they were X-302s.
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Originally posted by Linzi View PostI really enjoyed this episode. It was 43 minutes of a fun space romp for me. I enjoyed the story, and where it took me, and loved the action too - though there was nothing deep here for me to enthuse over. It was what is was; action, team, space and shoot out sort of television. Fun, and entertaining, but not going to have me thinking about it for hours and hours after. That's fine. Not all episodes can do that, nor should they.
I adored the alien bad guys, and really hope we'll be seeing them in our team's reality/timelime. They were really creepy! I really thought the vis effects were outstanding too, and loved the space battles. The new little fighter alien ships were really cool, IMO.
Enjoyed seeing the team together, that was a plus point for me too. There were some funny moments too. Initially the Alt Shep Our Shep complimentary scene threw me a little. It seemed out of character...until someone pointed out to me that Sheppard was trying to annoy Rodney when doing it, and then it made much more sense to me. I laughed when I watched it the first time, but appreciated it more after looking at it with a different perspective.
Teyla? Hmmmm, well, it was nice she had something to do, I suppose, though I do feel it was a bit of a stretch that a lesson with Marks suddenly made her seemlingly an expert. But I think it does add another dimension to her, and she sorely needs that, IMO.
I am finding the baby thing a trifle overdone now. Can the baby just go away now? Teyla has made a decision to rejoin the team. I understand about her concern for her child, but I just don't want to keep hearing about it. Sorry. I haven't really enjoyed the Teyla pregnancy storyline, and though I do understand the necessity to include it because of real life events, and have sympathy for the writers here, I just groan sometimes. I did like how it was all resolved in S and R, and thought it was important that Kanaan etc were dealt with, as they were in BT. But I've sort of had enough now.
I would much prefer to see the writers touch on some of the crap the characters have been through, most recently Ronons ordeal... what about some consequences for these events instead of baby angst every week... Teyla has had months to decide about coming back to the team so I also feel enough already..
I didn't really miss Woolsey here and saw no need for him to be in a token scene, which is a contrast to how I felt last season when Carter was missing so obviously on occasion. I don't know why it is that I felt differently in this episode. Maybe it's because it was on the Daedalus and Lorne did mention informing Woolsey of events? It seemed really well handled without him, IMO. I certainly didn't miss Keller. In fact it was rather nice NOT to have her around. She's just not part of the core team as far as I'm concerned, and a break from her rather distinctive voice was quite nice for me. I don't dislike Keller, but I really don't love her. I've liked her better this season, most definitely, so there's an improvement there, certainly, but I really was glad for the break. Sorry
So, all in all, a fun ride. Not a deep and meaningful episode for me, but an entertaining 43 minutes of scifi, with space battles, action and the odd bit of humour. 8/10.sigpic
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Originally posted by starfox View PostI'm going to have to disagree with those who wish the baby storyline would be dropped. While I don't want it to take over the show, I think they do need to at least mention him every couple of episodes. You can't just forget that you have a kid, nor would it make sense for the team (esp. Rodney, who's made mentions of wanting marriage and family eventually) to ignore his existence. Plus, Torren is a great window into the lives & customs of the Athosians and all those fun cultural things that have been more or less left out of Teyla's character since season one.
That said, I think they'll back off on the baby thing after DV. S&R was the birth, BT was the decision to come back, and DV was her first off-world mission officially back with the team, as Rodney pointed out; it made sense for her to be a little worried. Now that we've established that the team can still get out of bizarre scrapes, Teyla's probably going to calm down a bit, and the baby worries will diminish.sigpic
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Originally posted by Briangate78 View PostThey have handles the baby arc very well. All we need is an episode where Michael returns and tries to kidnap the baby and possibly succeeds. That would be really interesting, imo.They say the geek never gets the girl...what about the girl getting the geek?
Rodney/Teyla...it could happen
spoilers for "200"
Spoiler:Gen. Hammond: It has to spin, it's round! Spinning is so much cooler than not spinning. I'm the general, and I want it to spin!
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Vala: Are you saying that General O'Neill is...
Cam: My daddy?
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Originally posted by starfox View PostSee, IMO Michael kidnapping Torren would be a regression to S4. I don't think he won't try, I just don't think succeeding would show us anything we haven't already seen. You can only steal Teyla's friends & fam so many times before it gets old.sigpic
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Originally posted by Briangate78 View PostThe baby has to have an active story sometime in the season. BTW, did you like how they are making Teyla and Ronon smarter and not just these two warriors from alien planets? I liked that touch in the episode.They say the geek never gets the girl...what about the girl getting the geek?
Rodney/Teyla...it could happen
spoilers for "200"
Spoiler:Gen. Hammond: It has to spin, it's round! Spinning is so much cooler than not spinning. I'm the general, and I want it to spin!
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Vala: Are you saying that General O'Neill is...
Cam: My daddy?
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Originally posted by Saquist View PostI could get into all the...cliche's that have been forged every time a baby in danger enters the story line and I for one don't want to put the Teyla character in that situation....I would have to question if she really loved her child if she continued with active duty and the child was continuously in danger. It wouldn't be believable.
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Originally posted by starfox View PostOh, I loved seeing Teyla use the computers. I also liked that Ronon had picked up some multiverse theory from McKay. Proves that they take an active interest in their surroundings.Originally posted by aretood2Jelgate is right
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Originally posted by jelgate View PostWell, he did say he needed to learn some science in First Strike.
They don't have to be experts in the fields, but they need at least a basic working knowledge.
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Originally posted by OaTmEaLfAiRy View PostI am so NOT impressed with this episode. From Teyla out-science-ing McKay, to McKay being comedically pushed aside by Teyla, this episode was just too goofy for me.Originally posted by aretood2Jelgate is right
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See, now that's what I'm talking about: that's SGA. Team, team, and more team. From Teyla being an overprotective new Mom and not letting Rodney hold Torren after he dropped him (until he was sitting down), to Rodney being all "it's the principle of the thing," to Zelenka & Lorne being the ever-dependable "we've got your back" people that they are, to "they were us and they failed," to asking themselves what the other person would do (Teyla and shutting off the power, McKay taking Sheppard's reverse idea), to the Shep&McKay snark at the end -- yeah. That's SGA.
So far, this is the best ep of the season: lots and lots of Team with some action in the middle.
Personally I think those aliens were that reality's versions of the Wraith, but I could be wrong.
Originally posted by OaTmEaLfAiRy View PostFrom Teyla out-science-ing McKay, to McKay being comedically pushed aside by Teyla, this episode was just too goofy for me.
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Originally posted by starfox View PostOh, I loved seeing Teyla use the computers. I also liked that Ronon had picked up some multiverse theory from McKay. Proves that they take an active interest in their surroundings.sigpic
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