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    #16
    I too always felt that the gene therapy was a bad idea (if that's what you're implying), and I wish they had juxtaposed more the Ancient and Wraith DNA storylines.

    But I think its too late to fix it now, and the writers' are right when they say that would be really hard to continue that storyline with the way they've gone.

    Maybe they felt it gave Sheppard too much of a super-hero feel. The whole premise was that these guys are supposed to be normal with their only special abilities being mad flying skill, supersmarts, etc.
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      #17
      Originally posted by Teslan View Post
      I too always felt that the gene therapy was a bad idea (if that's what you're implying), and I wish they had juxtaposed more the Ancient and Wraith DNA storylines.
      No I'm not saying it was bad because it did make sense but it did take the uniqueness out of Shep's abilties though he is still has the strongest ability IMO.

      But I think its too late to fix it now, and the writers' are right when they say that would be really hard to continue that storyline with the way they've gone.

      Maybe they felt it gave Sheppard too much of a super-hero feel. The whole premise was that these guys are supposed to be normal with their only special abilities being mad flying skill, supersmarts, etc.
      I don't thin there is anything to fix IMO. They've done enough regarding Shep and the gene and now focus on deeper aspects of him which is good IMO.
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        #18
        Ive always taking the idea of the ATA gene as

        The genes are all the same strength no matter who has it but some people are more naturally gifted at using it. Thats not to say that people who have the gene but arnt naturally gifted cant learn (which we have seen with Carson and McKay flying a puddle jumper) but the person who can naturally use the gene has a advantage atleast until the others learn how to use the gene properly.

        Sheppard - Can use the gene naturally and can work ancient technology straight away
        McKay and Carson - Have the gene but it takes then awhile to learn how to use it but once they do they can work ancient technology (like the puddle jumper and control chair) as well as anyone.

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          #19
          I always hoped that they will reveal at the end of the series that Sheppard is an Ancient, who made a mistake and they deleted his memory. But later they introduced his family, so I had to give up this character twist. And it would be too similar to Babylon 5. So my second guess that Teyla has to be an undercover Wraith Queen.
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            #20
            Originally posted by Platschu View Post
            I always hoped that they will reveal at the end of the series that Sheppard is an Ancient, who made a mistake and they deleted his memory. But later they introduced his family, so I had to give up this character twist. And it would be too similar to Babylon 5. So my second guess that Teyla has to be an undercover Wraith Queen.
            Or McKay is actually a Furling.

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              #21
              Originally posted by ykickamoocow View Post
              Or McKay is actually a Furling.
              Huh. This is better, really.
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                #22
                Originally posted by ykickamoocow View Post
                Ive always taking the idea of the ATA gene as

                The genes are all the same strength no matter who has it but some people are more naturally gifted at using it. Thats not to say that people who have the gene but arnt naturally gifted cant learn (which we have seen with Carson and McKay flying a puddle jumper) but the person who can naturally use the gene has a advantage atleast until the others learn how to use the gene properly.

                Sheppard - Can use the gene naturally and can work ancient technology straight away
                McKay and Carson - Have the gene but it takes then awhile to learn how to use it but once they do they can work ancient technology (like the puddle jumper and control chair) as well as anyone.
                Agreed that's how I've always seen it aswell.
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                  #23
                  Originally posted by ykickamoocow View Post
                  Or McKay is actually a Furling.
                  No just no...
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                    #24
                    a smart enemy could use it to their advantage somewhat way the wraith did in rising

                    when sheppard found teylas necklace it set of the beacon cos of his gene maybe there some tech that if anyone with the gene cant work their tech or set off some sort of virus into them

                    similar to how ancinet tech requires it and the goauld on some of there items

                    micheals quite the biologist myabe..
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                      #25
                      I agree the gene was a strong point in the first season. I liked the idea but don't want to see Sheppard as an Ancient. They created sometime interesting for Sheppard that was part of what drew me to the series. It is a shame some creativity can't be put intohis natural use of the gene without making him different from other humans. I'm not sure at this point what it would be but I believe it could liven the series somewhat.
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                        #26
                        Originally posted by Atlantis1 View Post
                        I agree the gene was a strong point in the first season. I liked the idea but don't want to see Sheppard as an Ancient. They created sometime interesting for Sheppard that was part of what drew me to the series. It is a shame some creativity can't be put intohis natural use of the gene without making him different from other humans. I'm not sure at this point what it would be but I believe it could liven the series somewhat.
                        I would have liked Sheppard to be different from other humans simply because it would have been a interesting twist on the classic hero role however whatever they did with the storyline I would have hoped for a little more than for it just to be dropped and forgotten, that's just daft. (Though something of a theme on Atlantis)

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                          #27
                          Originally posted by Mitchell82 View Post
                          No I'm not saying it was bad because it did make sense but it did take the uniqueness out of Shep's abilties though he is still has the strongest ability IMO.


                          I don't thin there is anything to fix IMO. They've done enough regarding Shep and the gene and now focus on deeper aspects of him which is good IMO.
                          Well, I was originally talking to the OP, but no worries. But I'd like to know what deeper aspects do you think they have chosen to focus on?
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                            #28
                            I think this thread needs further discussion. I mentioned this idea in several other places recently and people found it hard to believe. The wonderfully alert Killdeer pointed me toward this thread, and now I know I wasn't imagining things. Unfortunately.

                            This has got to be the worst idea they've ever had. The one thing that makes the show different from SG-1. The one thing that makes John different from everybody else and not just another action hero who shoots aliens, blows things up and saves people.

                            Here we have a man who can control Atlantis like no other, possibly even more than the Ancients themselves. Yet he just continues to be just another soldier with a quick wit and survival skills. Vast parts of the city remain unexplored that could have added to his mystique. He could have connected with Atlantis on so many levels. Just the look on his face after he
                            Spoiler:
                            flies the city in Adrift
                            brings up a host of questions. Is he connected on a neural level? Does he hear things the others don't? Does Atlantis speak to him?

                            Unimaginable that they have a gold mine on their hands and just drop it. One would almost think they are marginalizing Sheppard and de-emphasizing his character to the point where anyone could take over as military commander.
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                              #29
                              Originally posted by Southern Red View Post
                              Unimaginable that they have a gold mine on their hands and just drop it. One would almost think they are marginalizing Sheppard and de-emphasizing his character to the point where anyone could take over as military commander.
                              Or McKay is much more interesting and he usurps all their imagination and time, and who knows maybe they'll explore his ability to control Atlantis and Ancient tech... Gotta keep track of that gene therapy research after all.

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                                #30
                                Originally posted by FoolishPleasure View Post
                                Sheppard's uniqueness is gone. He is now just another soldier on Atlantis, which is why he feels so stale and dull lately.

                                In the meantime, the writers are concentrating on all-girls teams, and younger and younger female prodigies.

                                *big yawn*
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