We need the ZPM they don't. You got respect the spiritual value of it. Why not just ask that Ascended woman to speak to the Brotherhood. The Ascended woman that is forced to stay on that planet and protect it for all time. She is ancient.
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Originally posted by YutheGreat View PostWe need the ZPM they don't. You got respect the spiritual value of it. Why not just ask that Ascended woman to speak to the Brotherhood. The Ascended woman that is forced to stay on that planet and protect it for all time. She is ancient.
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Originally posted by jelgate View PostThats not very ethicialStolen Kosovo
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Originally posted by 1138 View PostGet someone to pose as an Ancient and retrieve the device. You could have the "Ancient" beam down (demonstrating magical abilities) or use Asgard hologram technology to create an ascended form. It's time that Earth follow in the foot steps of the Goa'uld and pose as false gods.
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Originally posted by jenks View PostCowardice?
The Other Side. SG1 let that guy hit the Iris.
Unnatural Selection. SG1 had to betray Fifth to stop the replicators.Stargate Revival Please!
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Originally posted by ashman2 View PostI think a better idea, which would be slightly more ethical would be to beam up the full one, and replace it with one of the many empty ones we've got. It's not like they plug it in to anything so surely they would have no way of knowing whether it is full or not.
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Originally posted by YutheGreat View PostBeing the heroes tend to get difficult at times. In fiction heroes take the high road and ussually wins but in real life I am sorry to say certain evils are committed maybe even necessary. Stargate recognizes this fact:
how hypocritical
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Originally posted by Heaven View Postso you believe stealing their ZPM is a necessary evil?
how hypocritical
I am merely speaking facts of life. Desperation can lead one to throw morality out the window. I would like to believe otherwise but it is the way things are.
However like a church elder said to me before: just because these are the way things are doesn't mean they are the way things should be.
No matter what we do to get their ZPM there will be deception involved. they believe the Ancients will come back to get it and reward them. Even my option has deception involved. If I were to claim otherwise that would be hypocritical. Unless their prophecy actually comes to pass.Stargate Revival Please!
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Originally posted by jenks View PostCowardice?Stolen Kosovo
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Originally posted by YutheGreat View PostMy option was to get Chaya to speak to the brotherhood on our behalf. We offer to let take them and their people to the Milky Way. It is the closest way their prophecy can be fulfilled. An Ancient came back to get it. The Brotherhood gets to live in a world beyond the reach of the Wraith.
Originally posted by YutheGreat View PostI am merely speaking facts of life. Desperation can lead one to throw morality out the window. I would like to believe otherwise but it is the way things are.
However like a church elder said to me before: just because these are the way things are doesn't mean they are the way things should be.
is it right to do wrong in order to do good ?
in this case stealing their ZPM would imply a judgment that Atlantis having a ZPM is a better "good" than the brotherhood worshiping it.
but if you have to do "evil" in order to achieve that good, that would make that judgment hypocritical.
Originally posted by YutheGreat View PostNo matter what we do to get their ZPM there will be deception involved. they believe the Ancients will come back to get it and reward them. Even my option has deception involved. If I were to claim otherwise that would be hypocritical. Unless their prophecy actually comes to pass.
Originally posted by g.o.d View Postlook, they aren't using that device. Why should they have it? They don't need it
besides, they are using it, they worship it.
imagine if someone wanted to swipe the holy grail because its gemstone could be used as a supercomputer. would that be fair ?
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Originally posted by Arturis View PostOr even better, find whatever planet those imbeciles took the ZPM to, lock onto its power signature, beam it aboard one of our ship and then destroy their stargate from orbit so that we never have to deal with them again.
Its about time Atlantis got more than one zpm anyway, its going into the fifth season. We need more ancient tech, etc. This would make the show more interesting when they have rubbish story lines
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Originally posted by Heaven View Postthat sounds acceptable
yep. and thats where the end justifying the means argument comes up.
is it right to do wrong in order to do good ?
in this case stealing their ZPM would imply a judgment that Atlantis having a ZPM is a better "good" than the brotherhood worshiping it.
but if you have to do "evil" in order to achieve that good, that would make that judgment hypocritical.
besides, they are using it, they worship it.
imagine if someone wanted to swipe the holy grail because its gemstone could be used as a supercomputer. would that be fair ?
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