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And Weir did right bringing the Wraith, Michael and the Ladon into Atlantis? You know there comes a time when you have to trust someone. Sheppard trusted her, it turns out his instincts (read: spidy sense) was correct... wasn't it?
How was she sneaky, because she didn't reveal who she was right away? Do the Atlantis expedition when they go off world? And when did he show her how the control systems worked? Well, she was the spokesperson for her people, so would you rather he spoke to the 'monk' who knew diddly squat? Go straight to the source I say! So what if she wanted more? *snort* A diplomatic scandal? How on earth do you figure that one out, and hon, lets stick to what we know rather than hypothosising all the coulda, woulda, shoulda stuff? Yes?
Who wasn't a Gennii spy? Larrin? With that technology?
Yep, so what's wrong with flirting? I'm not sure what you mean or where you're going with the coersion thing.
How many men don't think about sex, or wouldn't think about it, if it was someone they fancied, or if they were throwing themselves at them? Show of hands here please. Don't be shy. I'm not Larrin, I don't bite. The thing is he didn't sleep with her. So what does that suggest?
I never said his judgement was off regarding Larrin. He trusted her (after they worked together and supported each other) He thought they were on a mutual level of trust and it turns out they weren't. If you're asking me If I think he shouldn't have kissed her in that sort of situation, the answer is yes. He should have waited until they got to his cell... at least there was a bed there. However Shep did not kirk! Kirking suggests one motive, and I think that he had more things to concentraite on than having a quickie.
I hate to break it to you, hon, but Mary Sue's are perfect. Shep is not perfect. No one is perfect and people make mistakes, it's called being human.
Nope, that was her gift and it was something she used with everyone including the village, so nope not stalking. Do you want to get into the defination of staking to?
Not necessarily and how is that Sheppard's fault, or that he shouldn't be a commander because she's been waiting for him? Did he ask her to? So she saved herself? What's your point? That this indicates stalkering? Because she had a vision that she'd be with someone who would help her and her people?
He giveth and he taketh away.
ooh 3 times in 3 years! What a tart! I'm not arguing that we didn't see it. I think he did have sex with her (Teer) Is the glowy thing sex then? Didn't Shep say it was better than sex? So ergo not sex?
Sheppard has never said to anyone that he had sex with the 3 you stated, because that's not who he is. Likewise have we heard of Ronon, Weir, Teyla sleeping with anyone... Maybe they slept with LL! Isn't that what LL suggested in teh ep, that he bedded the women sometimes all at once? I'm just saying.
Tonnes of action? If 3 (if we're counting all of them is tonnes in 4 years) then sorry not slutty by my standards, yours however may differ.
thanks for that.
hehehe well the fingers are whumped. Cheeky is much more fun than being serious. FAII may disagree. hehehe I never realised it to! We've converted him to the dark side. Who would have thought it!! next step agreeing to everything I say.
Oooh we're on to Shep whoring now! Woohoo!
Definition of whore:
Etymology: Middle English hore, from Old English h?re; akin to Old Norse h?ra whore, h?rr adulterer, Latin carus dear — more at charity Date: before 12th century 1: a woman who engages in sexual acts for money : prostitute; also : a promiscuous or immoral woman2: a male who engages in sexual acts for money3: a venal or unscrupulous person
*reads the defiition*
Hmmmmmmm I think not!! Unless you'd like to disagree? Mocking? In what way was I mocking? Because I feel it's a ridiculous topic that has no basis? And have provided my reasonings? Okay if that's mocking, then i'll hold my hand up and say, I know it and I love it!
Actually Fallen and I are debating... surprisingly that's what the forum is for, if you disagree, fine. But if you look at the title of the thread it does say, "Why Colonel Sheppard should not be in command" So wouldn't that suggest that people coming in would give their reasonings? Which I did, so because I disagree with Fallen i'm biting his head off? Silly me, I thought the whole idea of debating was just that coming at things from two different points of view. *looks up at RP's post* At least I gave my opinions and the point of your post was to agree shep was a whore and that's it? No he's a whore because... ?
FallenII - the continution
Doesn't mean that John did right by bringing Chaya back and revealing priviliged information to her. There was no objective evidence to suggest that the Genii were being anything but honest about their intentions, i.e. posing a threat to Atlantis when they first met, either. But they did.
Doesn't mean that John did right by bringing Chaya back and revealing priviliged information to her. There was no objective evidence to suggest that the Genii were being anything but honest about their intentions, i.e. posing a threat to Atlantis when they first met, either. But they did.
People who are sneaky like that. This is why it's practice not to bring unknown people back to hidden secret bases, especially not to reveal how advanced technology works to them!
He went "beyond the necessary" and into "the Kirking territory". You do not hold diplomatic meetings by romancing the alien priestess. What if the priestess ended up wanting more? Like, say, marriage? If he refuses, there'd be a diplomatic scandal.
He went "beyond the necessary" and into "the Kirking territory". You do not hold diplomatic meetings by romancing the alien priestess. What if the priestess ended up wanting more? Like, say, marriage? If he refuses, there'd be a diplomatic scandal.
Also, he had no way of knowing that she wasn't a Genii spy! You do not do what he did when doing it jeapordizes Atlantis!
It does not matter who instigated what. If you agree on something without any doubt and without any coersion, you're as much guilty as the other party. You cannot claim "I was only cheating on you because they instigated it!", you agreed to as well.
John isn't some innocent guy who just has lots of women hitting on him and forcing themselves on him. He flirts back and then agrees on taking it further when they want to.
John isn't some innocent guy who just has lots of women hitting on him and forcing themselves on him. He flirts back and then agrees on taking it further when they want to.
Did he have no shame but to agree to banging her because she threw herself at him? Men who aren't governed by their penises would say "No" flatly. She just wanted his genes. Doesn't mean he has to agree. Especially not while he's a captive of a supposed despot who wants his genes to continue his rule. Not to mention that he didn't know where the rest of his team was. They could all be dead or fighting for survival for all he knew and he decided to pass the time by getting some Space Tail because he could.
It does not matter who started it when it comes to blame. Both parties are to blame, only the one who start it is to garner more blame. John, however, is not exempt of said blame.
An interview confirms that the script originally called for him to accept said advances. The writers obviously changed their minds, but that doesn't really make much difference. Their little MarySue tendencies are still evident in later episodes.
So she wasn't stalking him, you say? Despite her confirming it by saying that she'd been using her clairvoyant abilities to follow him wherever he went for months?
An interview confirms that the script originally called for him to accept said advances. The writers obviously changed their minds, but that doesn't really make much difference. Their little MarySue tendencies are still evident in later episodes.
So she wasn't stalking him, you say? Despite her confirming it by saying that she'd been using her clairvoyant abilities to follow him wherever he went for months?
I hate to break it to you, hon, but Mary Sue's are perfect. Shep is not perfect. No one is perfect and people make mistakes, it's called being human.
Nope, that was her gift and it was something she used with everyone including the village, so nope not stalking. Do you want to get into the defination of staking to?
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Actually, three. And the fact that he knew about his friends coming was just a small part of a big ball of wax. I'm currently going through the script and you seem to be right.
He still knew she was delusional and a stalker.
He still knew she was delusional and a stalker.
John didn't just have possible-sex twice and intended to have sex a third time in 3 years time (Chaya - Glowy Ascended "Sharing", Teer - Virgin for the Taking, Larrin - Space Leader With Dark Motives). If you're arguing that as long we don't see it, it's never ever happened, then I guess the expedition never goes to the bathroom, because I can't remember a single time where someone indicates they're going to the bathroom.
I've never seen Elizabeth's quarters either or heard references to them, so she must have slept on the pier. I have never seen Daniel shower, so he must not do that.
And not a single character other than John has ever been indicated as getting some Space Tail or Tail At All on Atlantis. Rodney and Katie didn't get much out of their date according to later episodes and the spoilers tell us, well, something.
And not a single character other than John has ever been indicated as getting some Space Tail or Tail At All on Atlantis. Rodney and Katie didn't get much out of their date according to later episodes and the spoilers tell us, well, something.
John, however, gets tons of action. The writers are obviously telling us that he's promiscuous. Or are you claiming that he's only gotten Space Tail twice, gotten offered once but rejected it and then intended to get some Space Tail a third time? Because if you are, then the same argument can be made that not a single member of the expedition other than John has had sex in over three years.
I edited by original post, by the way. Any reference to him knowing his people were coming has been removed and I've added the part where his libido made him hope that she meant he was the one destined to take her virginity instead of the one destined to help them all Ascend.
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Originally posted by dana
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Definition of whore:
Etymology: Middle English hore, from Old English h?re; akin to Old Norse h?ra whore, h?rr adulterer, Latin carus dear — more at charity Date: before 12th century 1: a woman who engages in sexual acts for money : prostitute; also : a promiscuous or immoral woman2: a male who engages in sexual acts for money3: a venal or unscrupulous person
*reads the defiition*
Hmmmmmmm I think not!! Unless you'd like to disagree? Mocking? In what way was I mocking? Because I feel it's a ridiculous topic that has no basis? And have provided my reasonings? Okay if that's mocking, then i'll hold my hand up and say, I know it and I love it!
Originally posted by Ruined_puzzle
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