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    #31
    It looked like a professional demolition, didn't it? You know, the kind you see on TV- like when they destroyed the Stardust Casino in Vegas. It came straight down, perfectly.

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      #32
      Originally posted by ciannwn View Post
      I interpreted the ending to mean that they messed up at their first attempt to alter the future. Michael was supposed to take Teyla there to have her baby. Rodney fiddled around with that booby trapped console and the place blew up so Michael will take her somewhere else. They will have a race against time now to find the new place so they can rescue her in time.
      Well, that would explain (S5 spoilers)
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      Seeing Sam in the puddlejumpers in the photos for Season 5, wouldn't it? They can't predict solar flares, so they have to use the PJ to time travel. I wonder how many times they have to try to fix the time line. Kind of like a cross between Avatar and Moebius. The future may be a bit resistant to change, huh?

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        #33
        Wow, that was different...

        To have a narrative type story rather than guns blazing from every ship in the Galaxy for a Season finale. It was moving and well-done.(Favourite bit, Ronon and Todd.)

        Then, it sorta side-stepped and TLM became Kindred 111, ordinary and with yet another warehouse. You could ask why Michael needs all these warehouses? His spaceship looks big enough to me to carry out all his sinister and evil experiments in. But a planet-hopping spaceship is difficult to track down and the boys just have to play with their toys, guns and things...

        No. The exploding warehouse wasn't much of a climax. We all know they'll survive. And probably unscathed, out in the nick of time and all that, as they need to rescue Teyla from Warehouse No.4...And that awful VFX (right word?)
        I know they can't go around blowing up real buildings, but...

        My theory is there was more than one ending originally written for TLM. TPTB were threatening to axe the show and this might have been the final finale and experience has shown them we don't like our characters just riding off into the sunset to fight another day. We need proper closure. This episode killed off all our characters (all in a fitting way) and an ending might have shown Shep's demise or hinted at it e.g. the gate wouldn't dial, Rodney had gone and Shep. is seen wandering lonely and silent corridors, remembering the past, esp. with flashbacks to Rising, when it all started...(FanFic Over!) Then TPTB changed their minds and a sub was brought on and subs are not always your better players. The gap had to be filled with a link to Season 5. My theory...why it all seems a bit clumsy and tagged on at the end.

        And I have a question about the ending...

        Why did Shep. disappear for 12days? He was only on the sandstorm Atlantis for a day. Time to dial the Gate to get back to the planet where he'd left Lorne and dial the Atlantis gate(I assume he couldn't dial one Atlantis gate directly to the other) an hour at the most? Where did the 11 days go? If 11 days is the equivalent in real time of spending 700-1000 years in stasis, I'm sure it wasn't mentionned.

        Anyway, we mustn't criticize too much, otherwise, TPTB might decide we don't like SA anymore and get that axe out again...

        P.S. (Can't help it!!) Why were Shep's sunglasses so squeaky clean after the sandstorm?!!
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          #34
          Originally posted by Elanthra View Post
          And I have a question about the ending...

          Why did Shep. disappear for 12days? He was only on the sandstorm Atlantis for a day. Time to dial the Gate to get back to the planet where he'd left Lorne and dial the Atlantis gate(I assume he couldn't dial one Atlantis gate directly to the other) an hour at the most? Where did the 11 days go? If 11 days is the equivalent in real time of spending 700-1000 years in stasis, I'm sure it wasn't mentionned.
          The length of time Shepard spent in the future bares no relation to the length of time he was missing in the present ... welcome to time travel.
          A word of advice... there are creatures that live between this dimension and the next, fiendish creatures that feast on the suffering of an entire world to satiate their eternal hunger. Support the Gateworld Cantina or suffer the fate of all who fall into the clutches of the 'Eladrith Ynneas'

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            #35
            Originally posted by Elanthra View Post
            Why did Shep. disappear for 12days? He was only on the sandstorm Atlantis for a day. Time to dial the Gate to get back to the planet where he'd left Lorne and dial the Atlantis gate(I assume he couldn't dial one Atlantis gate directly to the other) an hour at the most? Where did the 11 days go? If 11 days is the equivalent in real time of spending 700-1000 years in stasis, I'm sure it wasn't mentionned.
            It could be that using solar flares for time travel isn't 100% accurate. The best that the Rodney hologram could do was send Sheppard back to around the time he left and it happened to be 12 days afterwards instead of a few days before.
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              #36
              Originally posted by Gate Geek View Post
              All I could think of when I saw the ending was WTF??? I mean really?? Ending a damned good ep with the team trapped in a exploding/collapsing building?? Yeah.....lame and very anti-climatic.

              I'm not even remotely sitting in anticipation waiting for S5 so I can see how the team survives and how this story plays out.

              I thought for a season finale, the ending could have been much better thought out and executed.
              Well I disagree. I feel for a season finale it was the best they've done.
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                #37
                Yeah, regarding the Shep-was-gone-12-days thing...

                The use of solar flares isn't a to-the-millisecond precise science. Rodney said he needed to get John back "within 2 months" of his original disappearance. Luckily, he was able to calculate to the short end of that.
                Theoretically spoilerish:
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                  #38
                  When I first watched this ep I too thought they could have ended it with Shep in stasis or in some other way, for reasons posters have mentioned before. But the more I think about it, I actually like this ending (other than the silly CGI). Rodney spent his entire Alt timeline life finding a way to send Shep back to "save the universe," and at first it looks like he succeeds. We (some of us anyway) breath a sigh of relief; the team can find Teyla, stop Michael from taking the baby, our heroes won't die and all will be well. So they make their way to the warehouse and "BOOM - SQUASH" - it's all for naught!
                  It's really kinda ironic to me that after all the angst, the drama, the wrecked lives and galaxies, that Rodney's 25 year quest to right the universe is possibly undone by using the very info he provided.
                  Kinda the feeling I get when I watch this:
                  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_HQPAGagdxM

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