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    #18
    Originally posted by Malakriss View Post
    Precise count of friendly ships that entered hyperspace = 16

    2 Earth ships
    1 Aurora Traveler Ship
    6 Standard Traveler Ships
    7 Wraith Hive Ships

    Battle Summary
    Alpha Strike
    Earth ships using railguns (yellow) and Standard Traveler ships (red) exit hyperspace and immediately open up on the enemy. No Replicator ships appear to have shields up, and 4 ships are targeted: 1 is destroyed, 2 sustain moderate damage, 1 takes light damage.

    Bridge Dialogue
    Ellis orders targeting of the hyperdrive with the Beam weapons, gives clearance to launch F302s and beam down Fran + Rodney's team

    Main Battle
    A Hive ship is taking damage while attacking a Replicator ship's shields and launching darts. The Darts follow a group of F302s in and make a run on the nearest ship, blowing through the shields and doing moderate hull damage while another ship's shields is hit by a lone STS. The view shifts and we now see a Replicator ship exploding in the background (2nd kill) as STS fire and a beam weapon pounding another Replicator ships' shields. Two others are seen taking light explosive damage. (Scene: Wraith Hive Ship transfers power to Hull Regeneration)

    Two hive ships are shown taking damage as the Daedalus destroys the closest Replicator Ship with beam weapons (3rd kill). The other hive is getting hammered by 3 Replicators and the one they are attacking has shields still holding. (Scene: Caldwell encourages McKay to hurry up, and Fran begins to activate)

    Yet another hive ship is taking damage as F302s fly by. Another Replicator ship is exploding (4th kill) and two more are taking shield damage, unfortunately a Traveler ship making an attack run gets destroyed (1st friendly loss) and a hive ship is taking heavy damage. Another hive ship can be seen engaging a single Replicator ship in the far background. (Carter remarks that they don't realize what's happening while Fran sucks everything in on the planet)

    Multiple Traveler vs. Replicator engagements can be seen as Sheppard takes out a Replicator ship attempting to escape (5th kill), as the shot pans we can see a Hive Ship being destroyed. Fran begins to draw everything in as 2 replicator ships are taking hull damage, 2 more have their shields hit, and 2 collide into each other in the background. At this point the Replicators can't defend themselves and the battle is pretty much over.

    Results
    5 Replicator Ships Destroyed During Battle
    1 Traveler Ship Destroyed
    1 Hive Ship Destroyed
    Several Hive Ships Damaged
    Unknown # of Traveler Ships Damaged
    2 Earth Ships Intact
    Awesome recap, best fight scene ever. Much better then BSG thats for sure.

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      #19
      Asgard shields are better than Ancients shields? 90 % of the Auroras were manned by replicators who had no idea how to activate the shield, the shield that is powered by ZPMs...4 ORI ships will KO easily this 30 ship Asuran fleet. No wonder the Ancients lost against the Wraith. This super dooper hype about the Aurora ships is just a marketing thing. I do not want to imagine what the ODY would do with the ZPM powering the Plasma weapons.

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        #20
        What episode did the Aurora Traveler Ship appear in? Or was it this episode? I have yet to watch it.

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          #21
          Originally posted by Pogo01 View Post
          What episode did the Aurora Traveler Ship appear in? Or was it this episode? I have yet to watch it.
          In ...Travelers and this one...

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            #22
            Originally posted by Integrabyte View Post
            Asgard shields are better than Ancients shields? 90 % of the Auroras were manned by replicators who had no idea how to activate the shield, the shield that is powered by ZPMs...4 ORI ships will KO easily this 30 ship Asuran fleet. No wonder the Ancients lost against the Wraith. This super dooper hype about the Aurora ships is just a marketing thing. I do not want to imagine what the ODY would do with the ZPM powering the Plasma weapons.
            I agree, it was really odd to see Aurora ships being destroyed only by rail guns.
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              #23
              Originally posted by g.o.d View Post
              I agree, it was really odd to see Aurora ships being destroyed only by rail guns.
              The good thing is that now people will stop using the excuse that the Ancients were more advanced than the Asgard. In warfare, from the moment the Ancients disappeared till Unending, the Asgard became the most advanced race. We can thank the ORI for this

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                #24
                Originally posted by Integrabyte View Post
                The good thing is that now people will stop using the excuse that the Ancients were more advanced than the Asgard. In warfare, from the moment the Ancients disappeared till Unending, the Asgard became the most advanced race. We can thank the ORI for this
                and finally, we can say the Ori ships are more powerful than Aurora ships. At least their shields are
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                  #25
                  The battle was very badass. It was the best thing in the entire SGA season 4 right now.
                  Calvin grows up to be Frazz. The logical continuation of this is, of course, that Frazz then grows up to be Edward Norton's character from Fight Club. And thus, all four of these characters are gods.Let's go one more step. Calvin grows up to be Jeremy, who grows up to be Frazz, who grows up to be "Tyler Durden," while Suzie grows up to be Haruhi Suzumiya; since Kyon becomes The Doctor, this leads to the inescapable conclusion that after the end of Fight Club, Calvin becomes Captain Jack.

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                    #26
                    Thanks Integrabyte for the amazing screencaps!

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                      #27
                      Originally posted by g.o.d View Post
                      and finally, we can say the Ori ships are more powerful than Aurora ships. At least their shields are
                      Well, the Ancients were known as the Gate builders. I never heard them referred to as the shipbuilders. Now we know why!

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                        #28
                        Originally posted by Integrabyte View Post
                        Asgard shields are better than Ancients shields? 90 % of the Auroras were manned by replicators who had no idea how to activate the shield, the shield that is powered by ZPMs...4 ORI ships will KO easily this 30 ship Asuran fleet. No wonder the Ancients lost against the Wraith. This super dooper hype about the Aurora ships is just a marketing thing. I do not want to imagine what the ODY would do with the ZPM powering the Plasma weapons.
                        They aren't Ancient ships. They are Asuran ships. It has basically been proven over the course of the season that the Asuran ships aren't as powerful. They can't even fire more than 1 drone at once. Ancient technology was largely based on people having a special gene to operate, and some can use it better than others, as shown by Larrin when she said her men can't fire drones as well as Shep. The Asurans don't have this gene, they had to, basically, redesign the systems so that they could be used. That is how I see it anyway, and it seems the most logical explanation.

                        People keep saying 'this proves the Ancients aren't as good'. These aren't Ancient ships!!! We have seen Ancient ships fire alot more drones, and take much more of a beating, even when they were already damaged.

                        It is even possible that these Asuran ships do not use ZPMs.

                        So can people pleas stop with this 'The Ancient ships are crap' rubbish. The Ancient ships aren't. The Asuran ships apparently are (or, were). Obviously the Asurans had a harder job emulating their creators than we expected.

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                          #29
                          Originally posted by SGFerrit View Post
                          They aren't Ancient ships. They are Asuran ships. It has basically been proven over the course of the season that the Asuran ships aren't as powerful. They can't even fire more than 1 drone at once. Ancient technology was largely based on people having a special gene to operate, and some can use it better than others, as shown by Larrin when she said her men can't fire drones as well as Shep. The Asurans don't have this gene, they had to, basically, redesign the systems so that they could be used. That is how I see it anyway, and it seems the most logical explanation.

                          People keep saying 'this proves the Ancients aren't as good'. These aren't Ancient ships!!! We have seen Ancient ships fire alot more drones, and take much more of a beating, even when they were already damaged.

                          It is even possible that these Asuran ships do not use ZPMs.

                          So can people pleas stop with this 'The Ancient ships are crap' rubbish. The Ancient ships aren't. The Asuran ships apparently are (or, were). Obviously the Asurans had a harder job emulating their creators than we expected.

                          When the Asuran ship destroyed the Traveler ship it used ,roughly, the same number of drones Sheppard fired to destroy the Aurora preparing for hyper space. It is like everyone forgot what Radek did with the Orion. When Sheppard prepared to fire I expected him to do like Radek. Nope, the Traveler Aurora behaved exactly like the Asuran Auroras .

                          The Asurans can replicate Atlantis and they cannot copy a battleship?

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                            #30
                            Assuming the battle lasted exactly 1 minute after McKay beams down to the planet:

                            Primary target was the Wraith Hives (Replicators code, and they are by far the largest), 3-4 should have been destroyed by then.

                            Earth ships became the primary target soon afterwards, due to our way superior weapons...so it makes sense when Apollo was about to lose shields...

                            Traveler ships are tiny, minor nuisance, so the Replicators hardly targeted them, so realistic only 1 lost.


                            But 5 Aurora's destroyed: Would have been more realistic if the Aurora's were destroyed by 2-3 Hives vs one, Earth ships and Traveler Aurora or prior to getting shields up...

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