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    #61
    Originally posted by ToasterOnFire View Post
    I'm particularly interested in seeing how McKay reacts to the change in leadership, especially if Weir is forced to step down or conveniently replaced while recovering from injuries. He knows the strain that Weir has been under with her command, heck he even wrote a book in her defense! He's been irked when the military has tried to take control of Atlantis in the past and has acted downright pissy at both Everett and Ellis when they tried to order commands. But how would he react when the military person in charge ended up being Carter?
    On that same note, in the past, when Wier & Shep have been incapacitated, he saw himself as the next in line to lead the expedition. He is the ranking civilian. If Wier is taken out of the equation, will he seem himself as the rightful successor?
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      #62
      Gak, now there are two totally different women. It boggles (at least my) mind that Rodney could be interested in a wimp like Katie Brown. At least Sam has a personality. Okay, so obviously I'm not a Katie fan.

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        #63
        Originally posted by wellduh! View Post
        Gak, now there are two totally different women. It boggles (at least my) mind that Rodney could be interested in a wimp like Katie Brown. At least Sam has a personality. Okay, so obviously I'm not a Katie fan.
        I'll agree, I thought Cadman would have been a much better match for Rodney, but Katie has grown on me. Especially after Sunday. She showed a LOT more backbone.

        But as to the question posed by the thread.... I think Carter will get along great! This assignment is right up her ally, and I think after she gets over the "new kid on the block" syndrome, she'll fit right in as if she'd been there from the start.

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          #64
          Originally posted by Ripple in Space View Post
          On that same note, in the past, when Wier & Shep have been incapacitated, he saw himself as the next in line to lead the expedition. He is the ranking civilian. If Wier is taken out of the equation, will he seem himself as the rightful successor?
          that could be interesting. what if there is a lapse. weir AND shep are both gone, rod THINKS that he's teh boss, takes care of things for a few days...then sam shows up and he has to step down
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            #65
            That would be interesting to watch
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              #66
              Originally posted by marty2006 View Post
              Its sam carter foremost expert on the gate itself and member of sg1, who she is and what shes done demands respect.
              Respect, perhaps, but even if they respect her for what she's done, I imagine that at least some of the Atlantis team will have some trouble adjusting.

              They're quite a tight-knit community and Weir was a vital part of that community so regardless of who was replacing her, there would be problems. It's also possible that some will believe that Sheppard or another member of the expedition deserves command.

              As well as that, a lot depends on the circumstances of Sam being given command; if Weir dies, there will be a grieving process, if she is injured and hopes to return, the expedition members may find it difficult to think of Sam as a long term presence and resent any chances she makes if they think that she's only supposed to be keeping Weir's chair warm while she recovers, if Sam being given command is part of the militarization of Atlantis, there could be a lot of resentment from some, not so much towards Sam as an individual as towards what her presence represents, but at the same time, others might welcome a stronger military presence.

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                #67
                Originally posted by Ripple in Space View Post
                On that same note, in the past, when Wier & Shep have been incapacitated, he saw himself as the next in line to lead the expedition. He is the ranking civilian. If Wier is taken out of the equation, will he seem himself as the rightful successor?
                But if Atlantis is shifting towards military leadership - if Atlantis is not cut off from Earth, then what's to stop whoever's overseeing Atlantis sending a civilian to take over or ordering that McKay take charge - then wouldn't the chain of command change to exclude civilians.

                Instead of Weir -> Sheppard -> McKay or whatever they have at present, it could become Sam -> Sheppard -> next highest ranking officer, and so on.

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                  #68
                  I think the reason Carter is being sent instead of say Col. Caldwel or Col. Ellis, is because she's a compromise between a military leader and a civilian (Carter is a respected scientist). So I don't necessarily think that Atlantis will be militarised.
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                    #69
                    Originally posted by ReganX View Post
                    Instead of Weir -> Sheppard -> McKay or whatever they have at present, it could become Sam -> Sheppard -> next highest ranking officer, and so on.
                    Oh yeah, that would be a really smart move, excluding all your civilians. I think they'd start a riot with McKay at the head. All of the scientists are civilians, they need them to keep the city in working order. (unless they're going for a big overhaul and just kick them all back to Earth and replace them with military)

                    I don't think excluding the civilians from the loop is such a wise thing, and should be kept of the agenda at all cost.
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                      #70
                      Originally posted by Steve_the_Wraith View Post
                      I think the reason Carter is being sent instead of say Col. Caldwel or Col. Ellis, is because she's a compromise between a military leader and a civilian (Carter is a respected scientist). So I don't necessarily think that Atlantis will be militarised.
                      A compromise would suggest to me that they're going to be easing a military leadership onto Atlantis rather than forcing a major change abruptly, not that they're not planning on having one.

                      If they wanted to keep Atlantis under civilian control, there are other options as Weir's replacement; Daniel, for example, or Woolsey. Choosing a military officer suggests to me that they plan to militarize Atlantis, at least partly. Choosing a military officer who is also a respected scientist suggests to me that they're going to be clever about it.

                      The US Air Force is going to have a very strong footing in Atlantis; the leader and her 2IC/leader of the flagship team will both be USAF officers and the head scientist, though a civiliar, is still on their payroll and has been for years.

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                        #71
                        Originally posted by Falcon Horus View Post
                        Oh yeah, that would be a really smart move, excluding all your civilians. I think they'd start a riot with McKay at the head. All of the scientists are civilians, they need them to keep the city in working order. (unless they're going for a big overhaul and just kick them all back to Earth and replace them with military)

                        I don't think excluding the civilians from the loop is such a wise thing, and should be kept of the agenda at all cost.
                        I'm not suggesting that they would want to get rid of the civilians, but I could see them wanting to impose a military chain of command for leadership of the expedition as a whole. Like the SGC - the chain of command for running the base seems to be all military but that doesn't stop civilians working on teams or on the base.

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                          #72
                          Originally posted by ReganX View Post
                          Respect, perhaps, but even if they respect her for what she's done, I imagine that at least some of the Atlantis team will have some trouble adjusting.

                          They're quite a tight-knit community and Weir was a vital part of that community so regardless of who was replacing her, there would be problems. It's also possible that some will believe that Sheppard or another member of the expedition deserves command.

                          As well as that, a lot depends on the circumstances of Sam being given command; if Weir dies, there will be a grieving process, if she is injured and hopes to return, the expedition members may find it difficult to think of Sam as a long term presence and resent any chances she makes if they think that she's only supposed to be keeping Weir's chair warm while she recovers, if Sam being given command is part of the militarization of Atlantis, there could be a lot of resentment from some, not so much towards Sam as an individual as towards what her presence represents, but at the same time, others might welcome a stronger military presence.
                          They should ahve trouble adjusting as Sam is military and if she takes command, it will be military. She'll do what the folks back on earth tell her to do, period. WHereas before, Weir, etc. played it fast and loose at times.

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                            #73
                            Originally posted by ReganX View Post
                            Respect, perhaps, but even if they respect her for what she's done, I imagine that at least some of the Atlantis team will have some trouble adjusting.

                            They're quite a tight-knit community and Weir was a vital part of that community so regardless of who was replacing her, there would be problems. It's also possible that some will believe that Sheppard or another member of the expedition deserves command.

                            As well as that, a lot depends on the circumstances of Sam being given command; if Weir dies, there will be a grieving process, if she is injured and hopes to return, the expedition members may find it difficult to think of Sam as a long term presence and resent any chances she makes if they think that she's only supposed to be keeping Weir's chair warm while she recovers, if Sam being given command is part of the militarization of Atlantis, there could be a lot of resentment from some, not so much towards Sam as an individual as towards what her presence represents, but at the same time, others might welcome a stronger military presence.
                            Agreed. It all depends on the reason for her being there but no matter the reason I'm sure there will be a period of rough adjustment.
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                              #74
                              they have to make it look like Carter will not get along with anyone. its the way TV is these days.
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                                #75
                                Originally posted by prion View Post
                                They should ahve trouble adjusting as Sam is military and if she takes command, it will be military. She'll do what the folks back on earth tell her to do, period. WHereas before, Weir, etc. played it fast and loose at times.
                                As long as she does not cheat on Jack everything will be okay LOL

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