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    Originally posted by Matt G View Post
    Been there, done that!

    If Sam's leading Atlantis...I can definately see her wondering why the hell she's there, particularly if she's in the top job. With all due respect to her "I'm" not sure why she'd get that particular job, I'd have thought Daniel would be a better fit.
    I can't see why carter would be chosen for the command of a city/base, except that the producers wanted Carter on SGA. She's a scientist first and foremost and has no experience (least not that I can recall) in running any bases or complexes and dealing with the bureaucracies involved...

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      Originally posted by prion View Post
      I can't see why carter would be chosen for the command of a city/base, except that the producers wanted Carter on SGA. She's a scientist first and foremost and has no experience (least not that I can recall) in running any bases or complexes and dealing with the bureaucracies involved...
      Any unknown colonel would probably be chosen before her, mainly because her expertise is not really needed in atlantis. The only expertise needed was Weir's in negotiating.
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        Originally posted by Ltcolshepjumper View Post
        Any unknown colonel would probably be chosen before her, mainly because her expertise is not really needed in atlantis. The only expertise needed was Weir's in negotiating.
        If they had to go military, Caldwell would have been a better choice. He's commanded a ship, an no doubt a lot more before he got that command. At most, Sam's commanded SG1 and that's it, and maybe a bunch of scientists at Area 51. I can't see her brinigng any new skills to the job - and no offense, but she can't even read Ancient, something Elizabeth can do - sure hope she suddenly doesn't develop that skill overnight....

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          I forgot about Caldwell, I wonder how he will take the news...

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            Originally posted by Mitchell82 View Post
            I disagree. I'd say the show is both character driven and plot driven. They have done plenty character development stories as well as general plot stories.
            Yeah, if you don't care about the characters, who cares about the plot?

            As much as I love Carter, I'm a bit mystified at this point about why they'd put her in charge of Atlantis. Maybe the president thinks the combo of a military hero and scientist makes sense for Atlantis commander? I guess I'll wait and see. I hope they explain it though. I think the Atlantis people will respect her ability, but not adjust to her right away. And it will be strange for her not being on the front lines.

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              Sam did get a few chances to command the SGC, like in Uninvited.

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                Originally posted by jenks View Post
                I forgot about Caldwell, I wonder how he will take the news...
                Probably won't be thrilled...

                Originally posted by PG15 View Post
                Sam did get a few chances to command the SGC, like in Uninvited.
                Which episode was that again??

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                  The one with the meat-ball monster and the Landry bird-call.

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                    Originally posted by PG15 View Post
                    The one with the meat-ball monster and the Landry bird-call.
                    LOL, good description of the monster
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                      Originally posted by Skydiver View Post
                      my impression is...sam will show up in the premiere, with her own ship, to get atlantis out of the sticky wicket they're in
                      As others said; boring, not to mention been there done that *groan* They need to rescue themselves for once.
                      then she'll either go home to come back later...or be ready to go home and she gets told 'hope you packed heavy, cause you're staying'
                      Great so she will possibly get no warning, no briefings, no time to adjust in her head to the fact she will be taking command of Atlantis and leaving Earth, and her colleagues? Maybe for good. Yeah I would by tptb seeing that as a good plot twist. Not doubt we will have some jokes thrown in and maybe a widdle message from Jack to boot!

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                        Originally posted by Matt G View Post
                        Been there, done that!

                        If Sam's leading Atlantis...I can definately see her wondering why the hell she's there, particularly if she's in the top job. With all due respect to her "I'm" not sure why she'd get that particular job, I'd have thought Daniel would be a better fit.

                        Getting along wise, the writers are in a tough position. Having them all get on fine from the start is too cliche but all having her butting heads too hard with the established crew will do is start another fan war!
                        Why the heck would Jackson bet a better fit to lead Atlantis?

                        Firstly, they are at war with Wraith, a species that defeated the Lanteans. A species that wants to get to the MW which is bad enough. Then there is the Asurans. A bunch of replicating robots that have the means to get to Earth. Far less advanced versions almost took out the entire galaxy in S8 of SG-1.

                        Who would be a better person to have incharge: Weir, who has tried & failed to negotitate with them. Jackson: Again, another who would rather try & find a peaceful solution to the problem. Both of whom have no technical knowledge on which to make contributions to help combat these enemes. Then there is someone like Carter. Both military & scientist, so can see both sides of any arguement or situation. She can help out in various ways with the Wraith, such as defeating their jamming technology. Helping out with weapons to take out their ships etc, etc. Against the replicators, she is probably the world's foremost expert on them.

                        So out of everybody, there is nobody better qualified or more knowledgeable on the planet that would be best suited to take control of Atlantis at this time.

                        Secondly, Atlantis is full of the most advanced technology ever encountered in the Stargate universe. Jackson can translate Ancient, but it isn't full of ruins or anything of that nature. It has a database filled with information on how to build Lantean technologies.

                        From 'Arthur's Mantle' in S9:

                        DANIEL: Ah, you see this is all technical, way over my head; I wish you understood Ancient. These notes seem to indicate that he completed the weapon here on Earth and then had to relocate it to ...

                        He may be able to translate Ancient it like Weir, but they doesn't understand any of the technological aspects behind it.

                        What they need is scientists that can dig out the secrets of what's contained in the Atlantis database. Then there is the small matter of the two vicious enemies that want to get to the MW & Earth. Carter is an expert on one of them, the most dangerous ones. While she can also help out on the second ones (Wraith) as well.

                        Taking on the realism factor, not only would Carter be the best candidate for the job as of this minute. The only other thing is that she wasn't brought over sooner. Which would obviously be because of the Ori. However now that's out of the way & Atlantis is facing danger as well as Earth from the Pegasus enemies. She's now being sent over to help out!

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                            Daniel's not a leader type. To say... he woudln't want the bureaucracy and crap that goes along with it. He wants to research and explore.

                            Carter on the other hand seems to be quite happy in a lab - science is her first choice and I don't think her, cough cough, leadership in a lab would count the same thing as leading an entire city. Telling scientists what to do or approving reports at Area 51 is different than Atlantis.

                            The writers need to do some maturing and move ahead with the Carter/McKay stuff (if he keeps calling her Blondie or Blue Eyes, why should anybody else on the base respect her command either?). Hopefully he'll realize CArter's not worth it and date Katie. besides, anybody who dates carter tends to DIE. And when any new boss comes in, there is tension and worry. It would be unrealistic if they all accepted her without batting an eye.

                            Ah, but then this is the show that kills characters with, cough couhg, exploding tumors. Argh.
                            Last edited by prion; 02 June 2007, 02:11 PM.

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                              Originally posted by prion View Post
                              Danie's not a leader type. To say... he woudln't want the bureaucracy and crap that goes along with it. He wants to research and explore.

                              Carter on the other hand seems to be quite happy in a lab - science is her first choice and I don't think her, cough cough, leadership in a lab would count the same thing as leading an entire city. Telling scientists what to do or approving reports at Area 51 is different than Atlantis.
                              Well with that line of logic, orchestrating treaties and mediating disputes between international rivals didn't qualify Weir for either the post at the SGC or Atlantis. However, the raw materials were there from her experience and character that the president and IOA saw fit to appoint her. Same with Carter.
                              Originally posted by prion View Post
                              The writers need to do some maturing and move ahead with the Carter/McKay stuff (if he keeps calling her Blondie or Blue Eyes, why should anybody else on the base respect her command either?).
                              I doubt that would continue for long. Her role is different now. She's not a co-worker...she's the boss. Different relationship would require a different dynamic.
                              Originally posted by prion View Post
                              Hopefully he'll realize CArter's not worth it and date Katie. besides, anybody who dates carter tends to DIE.
                              Actually that curse died with Pete walking away...not dead.
                              Originally posted by prion View Post
                              And when any new boss comes in, there is tension and worry. It would be unrealistic if they all accepted her without batting an eye.
                              But it went over so well on SG-1 with Mitchell.

                              I agree though...and I'm hoping they show some genuine growing pains and give her and them a chance to adjust naturally.
                              Originally posted by prion View Post
                              Ah, but then this is the show that kills characters with, cough couhg, exploding tumors. Argh.
                              I hated that too. I loved Carson and hate that he's gone.

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                                Originally posted by prion View Post
                                besides, anybody who dates carter tends to DIE.
                                Originally posted by ÜberSG-1Fan View Post
                                Actually that curse died with Pete walking away...not dead.
                                The only person we ever saw Sam dating was Pete and he is, as far as we know, still very much alive and well.
                                None of the men/aliens who had a crush on her actually dated her, so their demise has nothing to do with 'dating' her.
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