You guys know way too much about this sort of stuff.
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Originally posted by Buzz LightyearThe scientific fallacy in that argument is your (and Jarnin's) assumption that the destabilization of the super-volcano requires the addition of energy.
Here's a different analogy: Suppose you have a gigantic pressure cooker the size of that super-volcano. The massive pressure within represents a lot of potential energy. If you were to carefully siphon some of that pressure in a controlled and limited fashion, you would be able to tap into a powerful, yet renewable energy resource. However, if you get greedy and try to extract too much energy at a time, without regard for safety protocols, you risk causing a massive sudden release of the trapped pressure, leading to a catastrophic explosion. And nowhere in this scenario was any energy ADDED to the equation.
You're assuming that they're "extracting pressure" which they can somehow turn into power. I'm assuming they were extracting heat, which they can use to spin turbines to produce electricity.
I guess the point I never got around to was that they didn't need to have the "scientific" problem in the episode at all; it was tossed in there to make the team look like brilliant heroes.
The people could have simply been trying to contact Atlantis because the super-volcano they lived in was about to blow, and they wanted our help. Instead they made them really ignorant, so our guys looked really intelligent.
I liked the ep. I think it was probably in the top 3 this season. I'm just getting tired of unneeded complexities being tossed in the show to explain something that could have been done in a simpler manner.Jarnin's Law of StarGate:
1. As a StarGate discussion grows longer, the probability of someone mentioning the Furlings approaches one.
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Great episode all around. They managed to introduce a new ship and getting it into the hands of the Atlantis team without making them seem greedy or selfish.
I really hope that they choose to use the Orion for a preventive strike against that hive ship, would be grea for Atlantis to go on the offensive for a change. Perhaps they could locate an inhabited world between them and the wraith and try and make it look like the people of that world are the ones fighting back? It would delay the wraith for some time.
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Originally posted by JarninI suppose my argument is flimsy as long as we have no clue how they were extracting energy from the volcano.
You're assuming that they're "extracting pressure" which they can somehow turn into power. I'm assuming they were extracting heat, which they can use to spin turbines to produce electricity.
Since according to the laws of thermodynamics matter/energy cannot be created or destroyed but change form, depending on the age of the planet, and thus the amount of radioactive activity in the core creating energy, the pressure on the crust would've decreased and perhaps this would've caused a cave in and started geological activity.
This is all probability type stuff mind you, the likeliness of all this happening is so impossible that we can safely conclude the SG science section writers have no idea about physics, geology, or any major science..
As for someone in earlier sections of the thread saying McKay was a 'super scientist', anyone with a doctorate in physics, and especially astro physics, would have a basic understanding, and appreciation for all major sciences, and something like geology would be part of their elementary education (it can be used to teach about convection currents, waves etc..)
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Sorry about the rant, I hope it makes sense and I hope I haven't made any scientific errors, it's like 3am and i'm tired.
Also, this was a good episode, I felt it was one of the more realistic episodes in the S-G universe, where the survival of the team didn't involve a MacGyver like solutions (except McKay's idea, which was a MacGyverish solution).. i.e Teyla and Ronon were simply beamed up, no need for improbable heroics/cliches for them. I'd give it a 3.5/4 or 7/8 rating and probably the 3rd best episode of the season behind critical mass and The Siege Part 3.
P.S I love MacGyver
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Originally posted by JarninI suppose my argument is flimsy as long as we have no clue how they were extracting energy from the volcano.
You're assuming that they're "extracting pressure" which they can somehow turn into power. I'm assuming they were extracting heat, which they can use to spin turbines to produce electricity.To Infinity And Beyond!
O'Neill: "Do we know this... shrub?"
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Originally posted by James_the_Wraith_SympathiserWell I can't be bothered reading 5 pages of replies, but it's good to see that alot of people liked this ep. I didn't know that the 'Orion' was gonna be an Ancient ship - from the spoilers I read, I thought it was another Earth built ship. Should be good though, esp. if McKay, Zelenka et al can get it fully operational (with some help from Hermiod perhaps?).
Gotta wonder though, (spoiler for 2x20 Allies)Spoiler:with Michael on the way with a Wraith hive ship,To Infinity And Beyond!
O'Neill: "Do we know this... shrub?"
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Originally posted by JarninI suppose my argument is flimsy as long as we have no clue how they were extracting energy from the volcano.
You're assuming that they're "extracting pressure" which they can somehow turn into power. I'm assuming they were extracting heat, which they can use to spin turbines to produce electricity.sigpic
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Originally posted by GoldenSG-1ok so atlantis has the Orion and now the daudalus. It looks like Atlantis is a bigger priority than Earth with 2 ships on its side. Earth just gets the Prometheus which according to spoilers
Spoiler:gets destroyed and is replaced with the Odyssey. Still thats one ship for earth and 2 for atlantis have to have one more for earth
BTW regarding earth...
Spoiler:It does have 2 ships, the Odyssey and the Korelevsigpic
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Originally posted by DavidtourniquetGlad to see stargate's making homes for the andromeda crew.
Lexa Doig: SG1
Actress who played Doyle: Inferno: Atlantis
gotta love canada lol
Originally posted by Steve_the_WraithWell not necessarily if the Orion has the same engines as the Aurora then it can't leave Pegasus so the Daedalus will still be required for supply runs
BTW regarding earth...
Spoiler:It does have 2 ships, the Odyssey and the Korelev
Spoiler:Ok so there are 5 ships 2 for each side and 1 to go back and forth thats alittle more fair. I just read that the russians have a ship of their own coolthe good ole days of sg-1
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I guess by now it would be rather superfluous to say how much I loved this ep. But for the record, I'm completely certain Carl Binder is fully ware of what the fandom wants. Well, mostly...
As for the ship, ain't this mother on loan? It's not really ours, but the whoever are letting us use it because we saved their butts and we can fix it up all nice and shiny. It's totally theirs though; Elizabeth would definitely make sure they gave it back when the times comes.
And Allies? Dudes,Spoiler:Michael is SO coming back for Teyla to make her his half-wraith queen. Totally.Spaggel knows Rodney is a dangerous man.
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