Most members seem to hate this episode because the TPTB didn't give the actual city enough attention to acknowledge that it was Atlantis's sister city, but in my opinion this way a pretty good stand alone. Yes, the writers could have focused on the fact that it was the sis. city of Atlantis but I think that was their point! It was exactly the same as Atlantis; the same city they already posses. The difference is that it was half buried in trees and it’s ZPM was almost dead. The fact is that Sheppard’s team probably assumed that the city had exactly the same tech since Rodney determined that it was the same size as Atlantis. Granted that the cities throne chair did seem to have some add-ons with the whole seeing eye monitor thing, but whose to say that someone in Atlantis’s chair couldn’t do the same thing if they put their mind to it. Another point is that this was a filler episode to build on future episodes. So bottom line, the city was of more use to the local inhabitants then it was to the SGA, and they got everything that they needed from them at the time. They got more P.J. ships and a s**t load of drones in exchange for meds. and a number to contact the SGA. About the only thing they could do to acknowledge the city was to say “wow this is just like Atlantis” and I heard Rodney say something to that affect a couple of times in the episode. I give this ep. *** 1/2
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Originally posted by FallenAngelIIWe don't even need him to have shagged her to be upset. The fact that they even included all of that Kirking and nakedness! And then the promo! "Babe magnet"!
If McKay or Beckett had been there in John's place, than Mara would have thrown herself at them.
Originally posted by ShadowMaatThere were so many incredible plot possibilites with this story, the most notable being the existence of sister city, itself.
Then there's evidence of the Ancients,
and there's the ZPM and the star drive
as well as all the aftermath from the so-called revolution... and all of it, ALL of it took a back seat to Shep ogling and very likely bedding some horny alien princess.
Mara's in that episode for what, 4-5 minutes? The "bedding scene" was less than a minute and a half, and was only instrumental to the story of a whole (power structures, bloodlines, etc.).
Saying that the entire story took a "back seat" to it is blowing the entire scene completely out of propertion. You might as well claim that the entire story took a backseat to the fact that McKay was still hungry after eating dinner.
If we ever hear anything about this other lost city again, I will be completely amazed because for all intents and purposes, the entire set-up was nothing but a toss-away plot device- a way to restock drones and jumpers and to further degrade Shep's integrity by having him screw some horny alien princess.
And I don't care about "cut scenes" because they aren't canon.
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Originally posted by JUNIORMost members seem to hate this episode because the TPTB didn't give the actual city enough attention to acknowledge that it was Atlantis's sister city, but in my opinion this way a pretty good stand alone. Yes, the writers could have focused on the fact that it was the sis. city of Atlantis but I think that was their point! It was exactly the same as Atlantis; the same city they already posses. The difference is that it was half buried in trees and it’s ZPM was almost dead. The fact is that Sheppard’s team probably assumed that the city had exactly the same tech since Rodney determined that it was the same size as Atlantis. Granted that the cities throne chair did seem to have some add-ons with the whole seeing eye monitor thing, but whose to say that someone in Atlantis’s chair couldn’t do the same thing if they put their mind to it. Another point is that this was a filler episode to build on future episodes. So bottom line, the city was of more use to the local inhabitants then it was to the SGA, and they got everything that they needed from them at the time. They got more P.J. ships and a s**t load of drones in exchange for meds. and a number to contact the SGA. About the only thing they could do to acknowledge the city was to say “wow this is just like Atlantis” and I heard Rodney say something to that affect a couple of times in the episode. I give this ep. *** 1/2
It's like manifest destiny at its worst.
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If this question has already been addressed, I'm sorry.
Why is it that the buried portions of the city can expearance tremors that will cause a cave in- yet they feel nothing in the Tower?Adam:"I reject your reality and subisute myown."
O'Neill:
"IN THE MIDDLE OF MY BACKSWING?!"
Carter:
"It took us 15 years and 3 supercomputers to MacGyver a system for the gate on Earth."
CARTER: You made [this]?
ORLIN: You wouldn't believe the things you could make from the common simple idems lying around your planet. Which reminds me...you're going to need a new microwave.
Weir: You destroyed 3/4 of a solar system!
McKay: Actually 5/6, its not an extact science.
Slashdot:
"Well railguns are neat and all, but I'm still not joining the Army until they invent the respawn point."
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Originally posted by Schrodinger82I think a lot of the people who are complaining about the "unexplored potential" in this episode were under the impression that the Atlantis team could just walk in, take whatever they wanted, take over the entire city and set up an entirely new base of operations, and leave after they looted anything worth taking.
There's a sister city. There could be all kinds of useful information in the databanks. There could be bits of techlonogy there that aren't in Atlantis. Parts of Atlantis that were destroyed by being submerged could be intact in Inverness and more about the Ancients could be learned from that.
And speaking of the Ancients, there's the fact that not all of them left Pegasus/died in the Wraith War. And we're not talking about just one or two, it has to be a pretty big nice number in order for there to still be a workable geneology 10,000 years later. Chances are, some of those early Ancients may have left notes behind, which could explain more about them and their situation and the city in general.
Originally posted by Schrodinger82Saying that the entire story took a "back seat" to it is blowing the entire scene completely out of propertion. You might as well claim that the entire story took a backseat to the fact that McKay was still hungry after eating dinner.
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Originally posted by JUNIORMost members seem to hate this episode because the TPTB didn't give the actual city enough attention to acknowledge that it was Atlantis's sister city, but in my opinion this way a pretty good stand alone.
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Grant it the whole scene with Mara and Shepard in bed did detract from the overall episode. But if you ignore that at its heart is a classic stargate one-off episode.
If you think that i am completely crazy feel free to say so
And we got more drones and jumpers!!!Season 10 is by far my favorite season and i have been watching Stargate since the beginning.
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Originally posted by CalmStormIt's unlikely you are the only one who enjoyed this episode.
However, judging from the reviews on this forum, you are probably what is part of the few that didHallowed are the Xander. Love, Worship, and Rep/Green your all-powerful, omniscient God!
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Originally posted by TechnoBoYI think tonights SG1 episode actually beat the SGA episode. Hasnt happened in awhile!
I don't know what the frak happened to SGA. Season 1 was so good, imo. I was loving it. And SG1 was so... not. But this season, it's reversed for me. SGA started out good, but is horrible now, and SG1 ROCKS.
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