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Originally posted by Oblivion147I think it was just before Mckay found the hidden entrance to the city. He was with Ronan and Telya and said something along the lines of "My young friend Baldrick....." I was quite suprised, isn't that a very English joke or was Blackadder released in USA/CANADA?
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Originally posted by Drwho'sroseRight scene and Beckett has just arrived on the planet, Rodney said "Baldric my trusty local guide". They would see it on the BBC internationl channel or what ever it is called and how many years ago was it released on video/DVD? Rowan Atkinson is quite well known.
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Originally posted by Drwho'sroseI know it is a TV show that is my fave annoying response to a lot of what people say about SG but it is a show people invest a lot of time in (maybe too much time) and therefore they have a right, yes right to be concerned when they feel the show is treating them with contempt or presenting a character in a light that is um-becoming (don't hear that word much anymore) or plainly out of character.
I don't think anyone here has over stepped the line and saying this is an awful episode or badly written is only criticism which is what this thread is for Discussion (critic) good/bad.
Originally posted by Drwho'sroseThe main problem I have with this whole scenario is that it appears to me to be so out of character for Sheppard, not the Kirking but the giving into it so easily he never did this with any of the other women. I get that some men and women "can't control themselves" but he was
a) Still on duty
b) Seriously he was their prisoner, sure they had nice sheets and a big bed but he couldn't have just left.
c) Waaaaaaaayyyyyyyyyyy too old for her for it to even be funny IMO. (ageism card) Not to mention the plain fact the she was a "pawn" being played in more than two directions.
d) In so many ways inappropriate behaviour for the Military Leader while still officially on duty.
Originally posted by Drwho'sroseIf my assumptions are wrong in wanting it to be fresh, a little dark and SciFi that makes me want to forget how bad SG-1 has become then guilty as charged.
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Originally posted by KazperWell I'm sure there have been many great military leaders that could even qualify for the word "promiscuous" - I know for a fact that such behaviour even tends to be overrepresented in political leaders And the power and position the person holds is not much different with high political positions and high military positions. I refuse to accept that military people in general represent better people than the rest of society The same argument goes for age btw (*cough* Clinton *cough*).
Well I think that it is - although you are not one of the people that prompted me to make my post SGA is slightly darker than SG-1 overall, but it's still primarily an action series with a light bend and all the rest I wrote up in my last post BSG is the SciFi series that delivers darkness, detail and a serious attitude all the time.
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Originally posted by Kazper...I see a lot of posts that expands way beyond that and and takes this as some kind of proof that the entire season is bad etc. Saying this or that director or writer suck in general, etc. *snip* ...although you are not one of the people that prompted me to make my post
Whatever. I'll keep on posting my opinions and you can keep right on disliking it. Such is the way of freedom of speech, eh wot?
M&M used to be among my favorite writers, but that mantle slipped long ago. Now I prefer Martin Gero and Carl Binder. Even they aren't perfect, but their great eps outnumber their weak eps, which is more than can be said of some OTHER SG writers.
I'm also not afraid to call something crap if I think it's crap- whether it's by someone I dislike, someone I like, or someone I don't even know. I'm not the kind of person who can paint a rosey picture of something I hated just because it's "nice" to concentrate on the good.
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Originally posted by Kazper1) Way too many people took this (and other) episodes way too seriously.
Originally posted by Kazper2) Way too many people expect something different than SG
Originally posted by Kazper3) Way too many people get their knickers in a twist (bad pun intended) over The "Kirking".
Originally posted by Kazper4) The episode was (intentionally) silly, but fell short of being "fun" silly
Originally posted by KazperDetailed Opinion:
1) I get upset when I see people talking bad about writers, directors or any of TPTB because of one or several episodes below par, when other episodes are excellent and shows beyond doubt that AGA is well and alive.
My first suggestion would be not to get upset over other people expressing their opinion. I also disagree that SGA is well and alive, in my opinion the average quality of the show is quite poor.
Originally posted by KazperThere is not a single TV show in existance that has not had a balanced mix of good, average and bad episodes, and even for the best shows this ratio is not greatly pushed to one side or the other. I can name many horrible, horrible episodes from every major TV series - even the most popular like X-Files, Simpsons, etc. Allow the weaker links to wash over you, and enjoy the good parts. Now if a show stop having any good episodes then it's time to call it quits.
Originally posted by Kazper2) This isn't BSG. Nor is it Bab5 - or Alias. Or (heaven forbid) 24. Different series have different amounts of continuity, and SG isn't all that high on the continuity scale. This should be no surprise to any fan or longtime viewer. So stop complaining about it and if continuity is a dealbreaker for you watch other shows.
Originally posted by Kazper3) SG is filled with references to other SciFi and popular culture, and to me this is just another such reference. I laugh at those scenes - partly because Joe acts them really funny, partly because I laugh at the reference and partly because they are mostly intended as lighthearted material. So what if Sheppard is a Casanova? I like my heroes flawed. Makes them more believable and this is a flaw that in no way detracts from Sheppard's heroic sides - bravery, intelligence, intuition, etc. It's just human. I honestly can't say what I would have done if Mara had stepped into my room and offered herself in that way - haven't had anything even remotely similar to that ever happen to me But I do not think Sheppard's weakness is unbelievable - I'm willing to bet a lot of people (both men and women) would go along with such a clear invitation and willingness. By the time she mentions his genes his blood can already be pumping so hot there's no going back. No matter what happened or didn't happen though, the scene was IMHO not supposed to be so deeply analysed.
Originally posted by Kazper4) Yes the episode was weak - very weak. It tried to do the "I'm making fun of myself and being so silly that it's fun", and it failed miserably. Too bad. There were still fun scenes in there, and in the end it was 40 minutes spent as entertained as I'd have been watching Letterman, reading a comic or any number of other ways I could have spent those 40 minutes. I can either be upset and angry that it wans't better or I can just take the entertainment for what it was. It's the old "is the glass half full or half empty" situation.
Originally posted by Kazper5) As I said above this episode was clearly designed to be lighthearted and fun - it failed, but this means that the lack of plot isn't a bad thing. The error was in badly executed comedy. Let's not accuse the show of more shortfalls than it actually had.
Originally posted by Kazper6) See previous point, as well as my point about SG not being a continuity heavy series. Continuity isn't expected in a silly stand-alone filler.
Originally posted by Kazper8) People complain that we do not see scientists carry away databanks and equipment. That's how the series is designed. This is an action series - I've seen entire BSG episodes that had little to no action, but advanced a detail. I like that, but it's a different show, and I also like the much more simplistic action of SG. I guess I'm one of those people that like the entire spectrum from the very simple action world of SG to the convoluted and slowmoving world of BSG. But know what you like and fit your viewing to it - don't try to change the series to what it's not and has never been. SG-1 has built up a lot of continuity and canon by now but that's because the show is on it's ninth season for crying out loud. No series can avoid building up a sizable amount of canon and continuity in that long a run, but compared to the just five seasons of Bab5 which had way more of both, this highlights that SG is an action series - not a detail series.
Originally posted by Kazper9) The important thing in this show is the team. I like character development as much as the next man here but in the end I do not expect to get to know 4-8 people intimately in less than two seasons, unless I want to spend half the episodes with little action and lots of character development. Again this is not the right show for that. Again BSG has terrific character development in much shorter time, but at a cost.
Originally posted by KazperTo sum up - I agree this episode was way below par, but much of the criticism it is getting is based on wrong assumptions of what this show offers."I would rather have a show that a hundred people need to see than a thousand people like to see." - Joss Whedon
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I'm gonna agree that this wasnt the best episode....I feel with season 2 that they have these good episode ideas and can do so much but they are just falling short...
there was so much in this episode..drones, a sister city to alantis, jumpers....i mean this was a perfect opportunity to learn more about the ancients and get a zpm and learn so much more
but did we? nope. we had earthquakes and a dead zpm instead.
I mean we havent learned anything really knew about the ancients or their time in pegasus in a really really long time...and furthermore we keep finding ancient tech but we get NONE of it.
Ive been real dissapointed with the second half of this season....
cant they through us a bone where we actually learn something or get something?
this season held such promise after the seige and i dont think it has really devlived...
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Originally posted by Domesticated EquineMaybe the question should be: "Should a silly stand-alone filler feature a revelation big enough to shake the entire foundation of the series (the second city)?"
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Okay so yet another Sheppard and McKay story with Dex, Teyla et al as almost afterthoughts.
This was just an "ok" episode for me...nothing really to write home about. When the guy broke out the scanner, I figured he was checking to make sure no one had Wraith DNA. But when it beeped over John, I pretty much figured out the point of the story...that the one using the chair was dying and they needed a replacement and lo and behold, savior John shows up.
I didn't figure out about the bald guy though. I figured as cliched as the story seemed to be it really was the son.
I was however extremely disappointed with the reverse Critical Mass solution. What a letdown.
I guess the thing to take out of this was that there is at least one and perhaps there are other Ancient cities in the Pegasus galaxy...thus more puddle jumpers and drones and dare I suggest it...ZPMs? The possibilities abound.
Loved seeing Beckett off world making housecalls again...also as another plus...it was fun seeing Harlin again, sans the annoying Komtraya! riff.
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Originally posted by ÜberSG-1FanI didn't figure out about the bald guy though. I figured as cliched as the story seemed to be it really was the son.
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