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**Cpn. Chris(tine) Bowman** · 13 January 2005, 02:35 PM

Originally posted by shelsfc

I think it is a real pity so many people have moved on...there's no harm playing in both though. S/J is always going to be my main ship, but I'm happy to stick my nose in here every so often - for now, at least, I'm not going to let myself get too invested in it. If S/J works out, I'll trust TPTB more, but...once again I am rambling...I'll stop now!

Yup yup! There's nothing that makes a show more fun than shipping for two characters

Sam and Jack are also my main ship and I have no problems obsessing over John and Liz at the same time. I'm just so glad that once S/J is resolved, I'll have L/J to ship over

**LordAnubis** · 13 January 2005, 03:40 PM

Originally posted by Melyanna

"Letters from Pegasus"

Spoiler:

Woah..haven't seen the new epis yet. Poor Narim!

**Athenaktt** · 13 January 2005, 05:39 PM

Originally posted by astronomicalchick

Lizzie's just workin' her way down the chain of command..

LMAO that is so true!

**Athenaktt** · 13 January 2005, 05:40 PM

Originally posted by aschen

Oh don't worry, it wasn't actually shown in the show. It was taken as a joke.

yup...i think it was in the "preview to Atlantis" on the bonus disc that came with Season 7

**fair_nymph** · 13 January 2005, 06:39 PM

In regards to 'Letters from Pegasus',

Spoiler:

**Merlin7** · 13 January 2005, 06:39 PM

Originally posted by FoolishPleasure

Elizabeth and Simon's relationship is explored further in an upcoming episode.

As for Sheppard/Teyla ship - some fans want it. Personally I find their 15+ year age difference just plain wrong (Teyla is early 20's and Shep is late 30's), plus his education and leadership experience puts him more even with Elizabeth's own education and leadership experiences (and she is approx. the same age as Shep).

Not that I want Teyla/Shep. But had to jump in with this. I don't think we can go by the so called ages given for the character from character bios. Teyla is SO not in her early 20's. She's older than FORD, remember CHILDHOOD's end. LEader of her people. And let's face it...looks about 30. Shep could pass for thirty so he's likely 35 tops. I mean Jack is only supposed to be like early 40's right? And it's obvious HE's way older than than Shep! LOL That said...

Mentally Shep/Weir appear the better match. Now, if Shep just wants a hot bod, then go for it. But that would disappoint me. Shep seems like a character who wants more in a gal than just a great bod. And Elizabeth's physical attributes really aren't so bad either.

All this is my rambling opinion, of course.

I like Sheppard and Weir. Their relationship comes across as older woman/younger man. Yeah..even if it would only be a couple of years. Me likey

One of the reasons

**fair_nymph** · 13 January 2005, 06:43 PM

According to the official bios, Weir is 35 and Shep between 35 and 40 years old, thus Shep IS older than Weir (even though he doesn't look or act it necessarily). Just an FYI.

**Melyanna** · 13 January 2005, 06:50 PM

Originally posted by fair_nymph

In regards to 'Letters from Pegasus',

Spoiler:

"Letters from Pegasus"

Spoiler:

**Melyanna** · 13 January 2005, 06:52 PM

Originally posted by Merlin7

Not that I want Teyla/Shep. But had to jump in with this. I don't think we can go by the so called ages given for the character from character bios. Teyla is SO not in her early 20's. She's older than FORD, remember CHILDHOOD's end. LEader of her people. And let's face it...looks about 30. Shep could pass for thirty so he's likely 35 tops. I mean Jack is only supposed to be like early 40's right? And it's obvious HE's way older than than Shep! LOL That said...

I like Sheppard and Weir. Their relationship comes across as older woman/younger man. Yeah..even if it would only be a couple of years. Me likey

One of the reasons

Teyla is supposed to be in her early twenties. I don't remember the "Childhood's End" having any reference to her age, but that was from the original publicity.

I don't have a problem with May/December relationships — some of the best works I've ever read have involved such relationships — but I just don't think Sheppard/Teyla works on any level. (Is anyone here surprised by that statement?)

Anyway... Jack's supposed to be in his early fifties. You have to be in the service for a certain number of years to make general — I can't remember what it is, but it makes a person considerably older than early forties.

**Hatcheter** · 13 January 2005, 06:53 PM

Originally posted by Merlin7

Not that I want Teyla/Shep. But had to jump in with this. I don't think we can go by the so called ages given for the character from character bios. Teyla is SO not in her early 20's. She's older than FORD, remember CHILDHOOD's end. LEader of her people. And let's face it...looks about 30. Shep could pass for thirty so he's likely 35 tops. I mean Jack is only supposed to be like early 40's right? And it's obvious HE's way older than than Shep! LOL That said...

In 'Fragile Balace' we see O'Neill's ID card with his birth date: 20/10/52. No exact age has been given for Carter (that I know of), but I think it's accurate to say he's more than a decade older than her.

According to Gateworld's Atlantis Characters page, Sheppard is between 35 and 40, while Weir is 35. Teyla, meanwhile, is said to be between 20 and 25. Regarding 'Childhood's End', maybe Sheppard is being polite and not asking a woman her age.

**Athenaktt** · 13 January 2005, 08:22 PM

Originally posted by Hatcheter

In 'Fragile Balace' we see O'Neill's ID card with his birth date: 20/10/52. No exact age has been given for Carter (that I know of), but I think it's accurate to say he's more than a decade older than her.

According to Gateworld's Atlantis Characters page, Sheppard is between 35 and 40, while Weir is 35. Teyla, meanwhile, is said to be between 20 and 25. Regarding 'Childhood's End', maybe Sheppard is being polite and not asking a woman her age.

Regarding "Childhood's end" the question that guy asked "you are all over 24?" (or something like that) And I guess Shep assumed that Teyla was Fords age. or like Hatcher said...Shep must know the "never ask a woman her age rule".

**FoolishPleasure** · 14 January 2005, 04:48 AM

I wish people would stop trying to make Teyla what she isn't. She is a young girl - ask TPTB - who state she is 20-25. She is NOT 30. She is NOT highly educated. She does not have the maturity, experience, or class that Weir has. She has always been more age/maturity-appropriate for Ford.

As I have said before - Sheppard is a complex character who would not just settle for a hot young thing. Teyla would bore him to tears after awhile.

I'm in one of my "I don't like Teyla" moods today. Maybe I need some chocolate.

**Melyanna** · 14 January 2005, 05:45 AM

I think the confusion over Teyla's age comes from the fact that she was the leader of her people, and to most of us, leaders are a little older. We don't know much about her culture, but I suspect that the position is passed down from parent to child, and that her father died when she was fairly young.

That said, I also suspect that the leadership required for such a culture is different than what we typically deem as skilled leadership. It's entirely possible that it's based on fighting abilities, and Teyla is a pretty decent fighter. Elizabeth's leadership is much, much different, and much more intangible.

EDIT: Teyla-hate is a mood? I thought it was a state of being.

**Athenaktt** · 14 January 2005, 06:44 AM

Originally posted by Melyanna

EDIT: Teyla-hate is a mood? I thought it was a state of being.

*snicker* I guess for some it is a state of being.

**Melyanna** · 14 January 2005, 07:17 AM

Originally posted by Athenaktt

*snicker* I guess for some it is a state of being.

I don't so much hate her as I wish she'd wear a shirt that fit.

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