Elizabeth Weir/John Sheppard Appreciation/Ship/Discussion Thread

[GateByte]

John: Sure is quiet in here this morning.
Liz: They must all be exhausted from the lengthy discussions they had yesterday.

[MasterPower]

Out of all the shipper threads, I can really see Sheppard and Weir having the best possibility of having something happen between them. That's just my thought though.

[GateByte]

Out of all the shipper threads, I can really see Sheppard and Weir having the best possibility of having something happen between them. That's just my thought though.

That's the kind of thing I like to hear!

[Athenaktt]

I'm voting throwaway line, myself.

Nice avatar, Mel.

I'm with Hatch with this besides

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we already have one huge addiction arc with Ford. And it appears that people either hate it or like it. I don't mind it for Ford, because this is the most development he has ever had.

And how many time did SG-1, namely Daniel become addicted to something? As much as I'd like to see Elizabeth ansgt and "go darker", having an addiction just seems not to really help. In fact, if she had an addiction it would be easier for th SGC to remove Elizabeth from the expedition. Because it's no secret, Elizabeth must have some political enemies out there.

In addition, we know how the TPTB are at working on "personal" issues. e.g. Carter's personal issues about being single which they attempted to explore in season 7 with the whole Pete fiasco. *rolls eyes*

I think they'd be better in sticking to Elizabeth wanting to go to Landry for some advice/guidence since they are techinquely in the same situation. Being leaders of teams that are sent to recover alien technology and at times make decisions that are difficult. Because compared to Landry, even though he just started working in the SGC recently, Elizabeth is still more of a newbie when it comes to being a leader at this scale.

That was longer than I expected... must mean I'm on procrastination mode.

[mentalmichael]

Definitely agree with you on Caldwell.

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I'm pretty sure he wanted John's position as military commander of Atlantis, so I'm almost certain he'd try to pull something if Lizzie was to do something that might cause her to seem unfit to continue being leader of the Atlantis expedition. On the other hand, Atlantis is a civilian operation, and I highly doubt the International Committee will allow it to become militarized IMO.

Seriously? After TLG I think that Caldwell

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is if anything turning into a sparky shipper!! The whole kiss comment, and the "maybe there's hope for me yet" indicates that he now respects Weir + Sheppard, and maybe even a relationship... actually that's going too far, but I don't think he's going to make a grab for the leadership any time soon. He took over in a situation when he had to be in charge, and did a good job, but he knows that Sheppard + weir make a damn good team IMO. However, if Liz does get to a point where she is unfit for duty, then it would be interesting to see whether he would defer to Sheppard, or try and take over (i emphasize "try", no way John would let him!)

[GateByte]

Seriously? After TLG I think that Caldwell

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is if anything turning into a sparky shipper!! The whole kiss comment, and the "maybe there's hope for me yet" indicates that he now respects Weir + Sheppard, and maybe even a relationship... actually that's going too far, but I don't think he's going to make a grab for the leadership any time soon. He took over in a situation when he had to be in charge, and did a good job, but he knows that Sheppard + weir make a damn good team IMO. However, if Liz does get to a point where she is unfit for duty, then it would be interesting to see whether he would defer to Sheppard, or try and take over (i emphasize "try", no way John would let him!)

Ok, yeah agree with you about the whole TLG thing.

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the way he teased them about the kiss, he's certainly turning into a sparky shipper. I just don't know. There's something about him that just irks me. Perhaps it's the not really knowing what about his past behaviour was him, or what was the goau'ld. But I must admit, that I do like him a bit more now after TLG.

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However, if Liz does get to a point where she is unfit for duty, then it would be interesting to see whether he would defer to Sheppard, or try and take over (i emphasize "try", no way John would let him!)

Yeah, that's kinda the point I was trying to make.

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I think he might try to take over, since I'm sure he doesn't agree with some of the things Shep's done in the past, and/or feels like he could do a better job himself. But, you're right. If he was to try, there's no way John would let him take over, not willingly anyways.

[FoolishPleasure]

My speculations (puny as they are):

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anything relating to Elizabeth having medicinal problems would probably play out in one or two episodes then TPTB would simply hit the "reset" button like they usually do. It could create some interesting angst and make John fret over her for once - IF they do it.

I do like the idea of Liz going to Landry for help/advice. She knows she isn't up to running a huge military installation, and her civilian mission has slowly become more military oriented as time goes by.

[Luz]

You make a good point.

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Given all of that, I figure it's most likely a line just to foreshadow the coming struggle we'll see with Lizzie in regards to the difficult decisions that she's had to make over the past two years. When I started talking about it last night, I was half asleep and in a paranoid mood.

I consoled myself this morning by making some Lizzie icons.

I think this is just a case of us making too much out of some insignificant line as usual, lol. I remember how on HP in OoTP when some kid named Evans was mentioned, and everyone went insane thinking that it might be Harry's long lost sibbling, or some stranged relative of Petunia's, or whatever. That poor kid was discussed until the horse was beaten into a grease stain. Only to have Jo telling us on an interview that he was just an extra who happened to be named Evans, lol.
This sounds just like that

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tptb put that there possibly to show us that Weir is human and doesn't go unaffected by the threats they have to face, and the thou9gh choices she has to make. And it was a tiny little thing, but it's been growing, and i've heard people talking about it like tptb said there was going to be drug adiction arc, as if it's a sure thing. It's like how with TLG pods were mentioned and someone made a comment about Sheppard and Weir being locked on one, and then people started talking about the episode were Sheppard and Weir got trapped on a pod, lol.
To me it was just some odd line thrown with the purpose of showing that Weir is not wonder woman, but i don't foresee any drug arcs. It was boring with Ford, screwed the character, we lost him 'cause tptb didn't know what to do with him. I'm sure they've learned their lesson.

[Melyanna]

My speculations (puny as they are):

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anything relating to Elizabeth having medicinal problems would probably play out in one or two episodes then TPTB would simply hit the "reset" button like they usually do. It could create some interesting angst and make John fret over her for once - IF they do it.

I have no idea if this is really the road they're going down, but if it is,

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I think Progeny and The Real World will be where it'll all come out. I don't have anything to back this up, though. Just gut feeling.

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I do like the idea of Liz going to Landry for help/advice. She knows she isn't up to running a huge military installation, and her civilian mission has slowly become more military oriented as time goes by.

I completely agree. Though the latter is part of what led to the President Weir stuff from MF and me.

[SallyLizzie]

I have no idea if this is really the road they're going down, but if it is,

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I think Progeny and The Real World will be where it'll all come out. I don't have anything to back this up, though. Just gut feeling.

Ooo, spooky eerily acurate Mel!gut feelings coming into play again

[Lexa Jayde]

My speculations (puny as they are):

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anything relating to Elizabeth having medicinal problems would probably play out in one or two episodes then TPTB would simply hit the "reset" button like they usually do. It could create some interesting angst and make John fret over her for once - IF they do it.

I do like the idea of Liz going to Landry for help/advice. She knows she isn't up to running a huge military installation, and her civilian mission has slowly become more military oriented as time goes by.

i like the idea as well!!!!!

piccies time!!!!


i dont know who originally made it, but it is soooo pretty!!!

[Melyanna]

Ooo, spooky eerily acurate Mel!gut feelings coming into play again

Yeah, but generally you guys don't believe me. No one believed me last year when I said there'd be a hug in Siege III.

[gwenhwyfar]

Yeah, but generally you guys don't believe me. No one believed me last year when I said there'd be a hug in Siege III.

So... You have Sparky ESP? Cool!!! Did you know about the

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Kiss in TLG before everyone else also?

[Major_Moomin]

I have no idea if this is really the road they're going down, but if it is,

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I think Progeny and The Real World will be where it'll all come out. I don't have anything to back this up, though. Just gut feeling.

As it stands at the moment

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these episodes are listed to air as eps 4 and 5. We seem to get the idea that, at least, 'The Real World' will have a nice Weir arc. Apart from hoping that it won't be the only Weir centred episode during the whole of season 3... I also hope that, since it's being aired early on, they will use the rest of the season to further any repercussions these events might have on her character.

Mel, I know some episodes are filmed out of order and such...but do you have any idea when info will start to filter through? (not that I'm desperate or anything... )
And am I right that they begin filming this week?

[Lexa Jayde]

As it stands at the moment

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these episodes are listed to air as eps 4 and 5. We seem to get the idea that, at least, 'The Real World' will have a nice Weir arc. Apart from hoping that it won't be the only Weir centred episode during the whole of season 3... I also hope that, since it's being aired early on, they will use the rest of the season to further any repercussions these events might have on her character.

Mel, I know some episodes are filmed out of order and such...but do you have any idea when info will start to filter through? (not that I'm desperate or anything... )
And am I right that they begin filming this week?

that they do... i cant wait for spoilers