John Sheppard Can't Win

[Chrisisall]

I get it. She's strong...(insert heavy sarcasm here) "Oh, look, Sheppard was taken out by a girl. Doesn't that show how wonderful we women are, and that we can do anything a man can do, only better?"....

Pffft. Gimme fight scenes, I don't care who or how. Besides, John beat her a*s in Conversion.
Too much is being read into this delightful action-adventure series. I just sit back & enjoy.

Contented Chrisisall

[Killdeer]

I get that Teyla is a great fighter, but I don't think we need to see it by her constantly beating up John in sparring matches. I get it. She's strong...(insert heavy sarcasm here) "Oh, look, Sheppard was taken out by a girl. Doesn't that show how wonderful we women are, and that we can do anything a man can do, only better?"....

Actually, Teyla and John have only sparred in two episodes in my recollection. Once in Hot Zone, and then in Conversion. It seems like there may have been another time in S1, but I can't remember the episode. We've seen Teyla and Ronon sparring, and Ronon and John sparring, but John and Teyla haven't sparred on-screen since Conversion.

[Crichiel]

Pffft. Gimme fight scenes, I don't care who or how. Besides, John beat her a*s in Conversion.
Too much is being read into this delightful action-adventure series. I just sit back & enjoy.

Contented Chrisisall

I LOVED that in Conversion!!!

[Chrisisall]

I LOVED that in Conversion!!!

I liked when he kissed her... kept hoping they'd explore that a little further...

Coolisall

[Repli!kat]

That kiss disturbed me (and it seemed it did Teyla also), as it was basically forced upon her without consent. But I guess it was discussed quite a bit when the ep aired and people just disagree.

[Zonks]

Not so much with Ronon as he's built like a brick **** house, but Teyla kicking his arse all the time has me rolling my eyes a bit, I mean she's like 5' 4" or something!

My mum always said
"good things come in small packages"
i'd kill to be 5'4" i'm only '5"and a bit

maybe less Shep ass kickin would be a good thing, i don't know

[Emerald01]

Crichiel, I get what you're saying. I guess I just look at it a different way. It never occurred to me that they were trying to show Teyla is cool by having her beat Shepperd. (Am I spelling that right? I never can remember...) Anyway, I guess I think of it more as both a social aspect for them, and also a bit of humility for "Kirk". I never read that much into it. But I do see what you are saying.

Cheers!
Em

[KindlyKeller]

Pffft. Gimme fight scenes, I don't care who or how. Besides, John beat her a*s in Conversion.
Too much is being read into this delightful action-adventure series. I just sit back & enjoy.

Contented Chrisisall

... because he was undergoing a transformation into an alien...

... and why are we even HERE on a MESSAGE BOARD if we're not going to read more into a "delightful action-adventure series" than "hey, that was cool?"

[KindlyKeller]

I get that Teyla is a great fighter, but I don't think we need to see it by her constantly beating up John in sparring matches. I get it. She's strong...(insert heavy sarcasm here) "Oh, look, Sheppard was taken out by a girl. Doesn't that show how wonderful we women are, and that we can do anything a man can do, only better?"....

This says everything right here.

[s09119]

There is nothing unbelivable about a medium-height (for a woman, anyway), well-built warrior from a tribe of people who only have sticks and fists as weapons beating up a modern day soldier. Teyla has been doing this all her life, training and fighting this way, because it is the only form of defense her people have; they have no guns, stunners, or even muskets, so this is the best they can do.

Sheppard was given basic self-defense in the military, but that's never going to equate to someone (regardless of height) who has been rigorously training in martial arts all her life. The point is, she's going to be able to take down people with less experience than she, and the only real test for her would be a Runner like Ronon or a Jaffa like Teal'c.

[KindlyKeller]

There is nothing unbelivable about a medium-height (for a woman, anyway), well-built warrior from a tribe of people who only have sticks and fists as weapons beating up a modern day soldier. Teyla has been doing this all her life, training and fighting this way, because it is the only form of defense her people have; they have no guns, stunners, or even muskets, so this is the best they can do.

Sheppard was given basic self-defense in the military, but that's never going to equate to someone (regardless of height) who has been rigorously training in martial arts all her life. The point is, she's going to be able to take down people with less experience than she, and the only real test for her would be a Runner like Ronon or a Jaffa like Teal'c.

Something tells me Sheppard has gotten way more than "basic self-defense training," though.

[Atlantis1]

Teyla and Ronan grew up learning these skills since they live in the Pegasus galaxy with the Wraith as a constant threat. Years of practice would make them very good. I doubt Sheppard had as much training in the martial arts. sheppard may have gotten more training then some military soldier but not having the constant threat of death all his life would make a difference.

[Chrisisall]

... and why are we even HERE on a MESSAGE BOARD if we're not going to read more into a "delightful action-adventure series" than "hey, that was cool?"

Touche'

isall

[Flyboy]

Just because someone pilots an aircraft that is dropping special ops teams into a location on a secret mission, does NOT mean that the pilot themselves is special ops. I know a handful of pilots who have dropped flown these sort of missions, and they are in no way Special Ops, they're just regular pilots flying secret missions.

A pilot is a pilot. That's all, regardless of their minimilistic escape and evasion training.

[KindlyKeller]

Just because someone pilots an aircraft that is dropping special ops teams into a location on a secret mission, does NOT mean that the pilot themselves is special ops. I know a handful of pilots who have dropped flown these sort of missions, and they are in no way Special Ops, they're just regular pilots flying secret missions.

A pilot is a pilot. That's all, regardless of their minimilistic escape and evasion training.

Jack was a pilot too. And he WAS Special Ops. However it may operate in the "real world," the reality in the Stargate universe clearly doesn't have restrictions of that nature.