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    1) Because Staff weapons are rubbish unergonomical peices of trash.

    2) Because they TPTB don't wont to confuse the poor simpleminded viewers.
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      Originally posted by Hatcheter
      There's two explanations:

      Reason A: Production Theory
      The producers wanted to help distinguish this show from SG-1, so they didn't want to include two of the signature devices from it.

      Reason B: Story Theory
      I. Staff weapons are never used by SGC personel, except for Teal'c, who is more familiar with them. Zats also only see limited use, and what they do have are probably used on a first come, first serve basis. For example, Daniel Jackson seems to alternate between a 9mm pistol and a Zat, with no discernable pattern (expect what's useful for the particular episode).

      II. What Goa'uld weapons the SGC does obtain are shipped to the rebel Jaffa, who are in constant need of additional weaponry. If Earth weapons are good enough for them, they're good enough for the Pegasus Galaxy, as well.
      Reason C : Logic Theory
      These weapons would be useless against the wraith

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        Yes, I would think on an expedition like this, it would be more reliable to use weapons that they've been heavily trained to use. Some of the members of the Atlantis expedition didn't even know alien weaponry existed before they got security clearance to go. Perhaps down the line they may get to use a few Wraith stunners if the need and opportunity arises in a situation, that should be fun to see.

        the problem is, if this is a one-way trip, they are going to run out of bullets quickly enough and then the guns are useless for anything except a club. The power sources in zats and staff weapons seem to last longer, so it would seem sensible that some should have been brought. Especially as it might be possible to re-power them, if they find power sources on Atlantis--but unlikely that anything they find on a base of the Ancients would help them to make new bullets.

        TPTB need to give an explanation that works within the context of the story that is Atlantis.

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          Another story reason might be that they didn't want to bring Goa'uld tech to Atlantis, for fear that it might be detected and trigger some kind of automated defense system.

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            Originally posted by DarkQuee1
            the problem is, if this is a one-way trip, they are going to run out of bullets quickly enough and then the guns are useless for anything except a club. The power sources in zats and staff weapons seem to last longer, so it would seem sensible that some should have been brought. Especially as it might be possible to re-power them, if they find power sources on Atlantis--but unlikely that anything they find on a base of the Ancients would help them to make new bullets.

            TPTB need to give an explanation that works within the context of the story that is Atlantis.

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            Even at that, Staff Weapons are proven to have extremely bad aim, and Zats have limited unrenewable power sources.

            It makes sense for them to use bullets instead. If you've seen the armory, you'd know that there are practically enough bullets in there to fight a quarter of the first Gulf War, if not more.
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              Also they had no way to know about the Wraith. Why should they suspect an enemy in the Pegasus galaxy as powerful as the Wraith. I doubt they would figure that if there were still Ancients at Atlantis that there would be cause to fear.

              In Childhoods End, the weapons would have been powerless within the shield.
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                Originally posted by dfin25
                Another story reason might be that they didn't want to bring Goa'uld tech to Atlantis, for fear that it might be detected and trigger some kind of automated defense system.
                Hmm, that makes sense. You would think that the Ancient would have something like the Tollan device that stopped all weapons passed through it. Maybe P90's are just to primitive.

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                  Here's the Answer: The Wraith wouldn't recover from multiple staff blasts, and that's why they didn't bring them. The Wraiths regen. powers would be gone and the show would go *poof*

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                    Originally posted by Hatcheter
                    There's two explanations:

                    Reason A: Production Theory
                    The producers wanted to help distinguish this show from SG-1, so they didn't want to include two of the signature devices from it.

                    Reason B: Story Theory
                    I. Staff weapons are never used by SGC personel, except for Teal'c, who is more familiar with them. Zats also only see limited use, and what they do have are probably used on a first come, first serve basis. For example, Daniel Jackson seems to alternate between a 9mm pistol and a Zat, with no discernable pattern (expect what's useful for the particular episode).

                    II. What Goa'uld weapons the SGC does obtain are shipped to the rebel Jaffa, who are in constant need of additional weaponry. If Earth weapons are good enough for them, they're good enough for the Pegasus Galaxy, as well.
                    I agree with Hatcher, on his story theory. Another thing unless any of the expedition work at the SGC, they haven't seen a zat much less know how to operate one. The only ones, I know offhand who would know what a zat is, Elizabeth Wier and Rodney McKay. Ford may know about a zat being their weapons expert.

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                      Another story reason is that the Marine weapons specialists know how to repair and maintain the earth weapons. I'd hazard to guess zats are a bit hard to gunsmith.


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                        Also surly even the zats probably need to be reload after a while and where are the going to get the ammunition for it and they probably wouldn't know how to reload any way.
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                          They should've asked the Serrakin for weapons.

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                            What has surprised me so far in Atlantis is that they have found no hand held weapons what did they use to fight the wraith in face to face situations sticks.
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                              That's an easy one: They didn't.

                              If you are outnumbered you don't leave your ship and fight. They probably only used the puddle jumpers to do hit and runs against ship yards and such stuff. They probably used all(?) five Puddle Jumpers at the same time too, to make sure that the ship yard got destroyed.

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                                Everyones answers were good. But none of them answered my question. Zats and staff weapons should work on the wraith or they should atleast try.

                                The reason that the producers wanted to separate the 2 shows is the simple way out. The viewers are smart tv watchers. They should have a resonable answer to this question.

                                TELL ME WHY!!!!!
                                Please

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