Screw the Tok'ra

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I've been thinking a lot lately. The Tok'ra haven't done nearly as much for the humans as we have for them. In the earlier seasons they were always like "We need you to do this, this and this," and SG-1 got NOTHING in return besides a pat on the back and an cliche, apathetic response if any of the SGC members were killed.

So my question now is, who really needs them??

[Elwe Singollo]

I think they need themselves really, haha... But anyway, i think all they've done mostly is help us with the trutonin medicine, and some other things, me forget.

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I think they need themselves really, haha... But anyway, i think all they've done mostly is help us with the trutonin medicine, and some other things, me forget.

Yeah, but trutonin wasn't even our problem! After that episode we never heard from them again! Sometimes the way SG-1 opereates reminds me of how and why I hate the way America operates. We're too busy worrying about other people's problems instead of working on our own.

[EYU86]

The rebel Jaffa made better allies than the Tok'ra.
They were willing to fight along side us and many times provided a ship or better intel than the Tok'ra ever did

[Elwe Singollo]

It was kind of for us, if you consider Teal'c part of us, since hes part of the team and all. The very last time we've heard from the Tok'ra is i think Death Knell from S7, where Jacob and Sam created that special weapon to destroy the Kull Warriors.

[Elwe Singollo]

The rebel Jaffa made better allies than the Tok'ra.
They were willing to fight along side us and many times provided a ship or better intel than the Tok'ra ever did

Sadly they ended up doing what the Tok'ra did, desert us.

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Sadly they ended up doing what the Tok'ra did, desert us.

Agreed. I have a feeling the only reason the Asgard have stuck around as long as they have as because they know eventually we might get back up the level of the Ancients...in a few...million years...

[EYU86]

Sadly they ended up doing what the Tok'ra did, desert us.

Not entirely, they just left to start their own lives not under our rules. It didn't stop them from helping us out.

[Elwe Singollo]

Yah, thats probably the most likely reason. Or maybe the Asgard stuck around because the Goa'uld isn't the Asgard's problem, haha, unlike the Tok'ra and the Rebels.

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Yah, thats probably the most likely reason. Or maybe the Asgard stuck around because the Goa'uld isn't the Asgard's problem, haha, unlike the Tok'ra and the Rebels.

Well so long as the weapon in Antartica is functional, Earth is in no immediate danger. The Wraith however....well...that's a different story...

[Torley]

The subject line of this topic cracked me up! The Tok'ra sure do cause a lot of trouble for being supposed "Goa'uldbusters", don't they?

WHYYY ANISE, WHYYY???

[EYU86]

I always thought that the Tok'ra would one day seize control of a Goa'uld empire and do exactly what the Goa'uld did.

[Tok'Ra Hostess]

and SG-1 got NOTHING in return besides a pat on the back and an cliche, apathetic response if any of the SGC members were killed.

Oh, NOTHING, except for the times they:

1) helped save Jack, Sam and Daniel from Hathor and company (Out of Mind/Into the Fire). It's not known whether that Tok'Ra operative survived,

2) helped flush out Seth who was hiding away on Earth and building his forces,

3) gave intel, technology and help to fight off the Reetou attack(another Tok'Ra bites the dust),

4) came to the rescue of Jack and Teal'c(Tangent) and of all of SG-1( Fail Safe),

5)gave intel on pretty much whatever was ever asked of them, like the DHD problems in 48 Hours, to name one,

6)Tretonin, which, BTW is a HUGE help, because now the SGC finally have something to offer Jaffa as an alternative to enslavement to the Goa'uld,

7)created an airborne poison that is lethal to the Goa'uld,

8)gave intel on the device, helped to build a way to kill the Kull warriors and participated in the recon of Anubis' Kull facility,

9)saved Jacob's life,

10)provided Jack the only shot at surviving his sickness(Frozen).

As for a cliche response when Tau'ri warriors get killed, what kind of response should they make? How has Jack responded to Tok'Ra dying while helping his people? These folks are warriors - all of them, Tauri, Jaffa, Tok'Ra - not sunday school children.

So my question now is, who really needs them??

What MORE must they DO to have any value?

[Janet Fraiser]

Crystals and Upgrades. The only things the Tokra have been good for.

[Elwe Singollo]

Im supporting the idea that the Tok'ra didn't 'do nothing', but obviously, they have, but to some people, they didn't, but hopefully we'll see them in S8 to see what they are doing right now