Harry Potter Discussion and Appreciation Thread

[SilverRider]

Yep you have totally lost in all the in the name of Shipping which should be good

Hopefully.....there......is..........a .........cure ofr it *hides*

[SlytherinGal]

what?! you weren't supposed to answer that j/k but i mean, i still ship R/H and H/G..what the heck is wrong with shipping S/L...i mean, would you rather i ship me/snape teehee

[rarocks24]

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The only thing I have is, Harry and Hermione and several others in the book sunk to the level of the Death Eaters in order to accomplish their goals. I mean, I know "Inter Arma enim silent leges", but still....does that justify the use of the Cruciatus curse,I mean, yeah, "Imperio" and "Avada Kedavra" are acceptable... but torturing someone with an illegal curse because they spat in another's face?

Granted, at the time, they probably aren't illegal anymore, but still.

[SilverRider]

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I think the onlt reason they use it, was that they had no other choice. on top of that they are at war, so they knew their most of the normal speels won't work

[FallenAngelII]

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Not to mention that the war had started and that Voldemort was coming. Two less Death Eaters to worry about is a good thing.

[MasySyma]

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The only thing I have is, Harry and Hermione and several others in the book sunk to the level of the Death Eaters in order to accomplish their goals. I mean, I know "Inter Arma enim silent leges", but still....does that justify the use of the Cruciatus curse,I mean, yeah, "Imperio" and "Avada Kedavra" are acceptable... but torturing someone with an illegal curse because they spat in another's face?

Granted, at the time, they probably aren't illegal anymore, but still.

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It undercuts the whole speech Harry has earlier in the book about not wanting to be like "them." I agree. I thought a few of the spells were overdone. Sometimes, the dark magic was needed, but spit isn't enough of a reason to torture someone.

[SlytherinGal]

ah! i am sooo getting to like Snape/Lily fanfics....ah!!

[SilverRider]

oh goodie..... *looks innocent*

Does that mean you be doing them too?

[Trek_Girl42]

Since when does "[i] probably will" do a Potter encyclopedia equal "I've signed a binding contract"?

What I said was a joke.....I meant to have "magical" in there (as in the binding magical contract from GoF).

Okay, not much of a joke, but you get my point.

But in truth, yeah pretty much, she has esentially said that she'll do it- she's mentioned it so many times, and this time she actually gave details. Saying "Probably" is a way of ensuring that they're aren't demands that it's done right away. She needs a break.

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It undercuts the whole speech Harry has earlier in the book about not wanting to be like "them." I agree. I thought a few of the spells were overdone. Sometimes, the dark magic was needed, but spit isn't enough of a reason to torture someone.

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Of course, but he's a character, and characters do stupid things like go back on their word, just like people do. A spit isn't enough for the curse, so Harry made a huge mistake there. That's part of the character, I think his actions were believable.

[Exiled Master]

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It undercuts the whole speech Harry has earlier in the book about not wanting to be like "them." I agree. I thought a few of the spells were overdone. Sometimes, the dark magic was needed, but spit isn't enough of a reason to torture someone.

Are the Unforgiveable curses really dark magic? I mean, sure using them lands you in Azkaban, but I don't remember reading that they were.

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Oh, and what about the Dark Mark? Why wasn't it menacingly glowing over the castle? I mean, one might forget after a few kills, but fifty four! There must have been some order by Voldemort to not use them.

[BruTak]

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The only thing I have is, Harry and Hermione and several others in the book sunk to the level of the Death Eaters in order to accomplish their goals. I mean, I know "Inter Arma enim silent leges", but still....does that justify the use of the Cruciatus curse,I mean, yeah, "Imperio" and "Avada Kedavra" are acceptable... but torturing someone with an illegal curse because they spat in another's face?

Granted, at the time, they probably aren't illegal anymore, but still.

Oooh, little bit of Latin there,

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"In time of war, the law remains silent".

Very true.


Bellum nec timendum nec provocandum.

[Jedi_Master_Bra'tac]

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The only thing I have is, Harry and Hermione and several others in the book sunk to the level of the Death Eaters in order to accomplish their goals. I mean, I know "Inter Arma enim silent leges", but still....does that justify the use of the Cruciatus curse,I mean, yeah, "Imperio" and "Avada Kedavra" are acceptable... but torturing someone with an illegal curse because they spat in another's face?

Granted, at the time, they probably aren't illegal anymore, but still.

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I was surprised at this too. But then I remembered that they had been using the Cruciatus curse on students, so this may have been the real reason Harry used it.

As for Latin phrases.....

Draco Dormiens Nunquam Titillandus

[BruTak]

Oh yeah? Well - fabricate diem!

[Jedi_Master_Bra'tac]

err.... well.... Yu Mo Gwai Gui Fai Di Zao (green for the first person to know what I'm referencing)

[Pitry]

What I said was a joke.....I meant to have "magical" in there (as in the binding magical contract from GoF).

Okay, not much of a joke, but you get my point.

But in truth, yeah pretty much, she has esentially said that she'll do it- she's mentioned it so many times, and this time she actually gave details. Saying "Probably" is a way of ensuring that they're aren't demands that it's done right away. She needs a break.

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Of course, but he's a character, and characters do stupid things like go back on their word, just like people do. A spit isn't enough for the curse, so Harry made a huge mistake there. That's part of the character, I think his actions were believable.

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That's not it tho. I think JKR made it very clear in previous books that using these is not about a mistake - and also it comes back in this book, doesn't it. When Harry successfully uses the Curciatus curse and says Belatrix was right, you have to want it...

I think she - perhaps inadvertly - crossed a line here. Because her attitude througbhout this book was exactly "inter arma".... which is something she came out against in the previous books. Not to mention that today when this phrase is used it's usually in a negative, ironical way, not as a justification.