Me neither. What's the point? And how is that any different than how the show's been done so far?
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Originally posted by Replicator Todd View PostThats not what I meant....i'm saying that final episode ends with the death of the 13th Doctor, and a new show begins with the 14th anyways.
Although as far as I am concerned, 12th will be the last form (as 10th used two regenerations and I'm sticking to it) so once 12th dies, unlucky 13 can start as number 1.
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I think the time war, and the fact that he's pretty much the last gallifreyan, means that he has as many regenerations as he needs.Things we'd like to see in our favorite scifi...
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Originally posted by Mamid View PostI think the time war, and the fact that he's pretty much the last gallifreyan, means that he has as many regenerations as he needs.Last edited by SaberBlade; 01 May 2010, 08:23 AM.
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Originally posted by SaberBlade View PostI don't think being the last of the Time Lords gives him infinite regenerations. It's not like a shared pool they all use. However, Eighth was the Doctor who took part in the Time War, meaning he could have had extras added on we don't know about, like given a fresh set of 12.I write articles/features/reviews for I'm With Geek.com now. Check out our stuff if you get a minute!
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Originally posted by SaberBlade View PostI don't think being the last of the Time Lords gives him infinite regenerations. It's not like a shared pool they all use. However, Eighth was the Doctor who took part in the Time War, meaning he could have had extras added on we don't know about, like given a fresh set of 12.I write articles/features/reviews for I'm With Geek.com now. Check out our stuff if you get a minute!
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Originally posted by Admiral Mappalazarou View PostPresumably. Although Moffat mentioned during Comic Con that that much is still vague, and that it could have been ninth who fought in the Time War. However his attitude in 'Rose' suggests he had just recently regenerated.
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Wow i should have come back to this thread a while ago with what i found.
The limit placed on a Time Lord's regenerations is one of Gallifrayan law, not biological law.
So presumably The Doctor, who is no longer subject to the Gallifrayan laws, can regenerate as many times as he wishes or as many times as he is able to do so.
I'll try find the source for this as it was ages ago when i started this thread and i thought we closed it at 'No one is sure'
In consequence to whoever said: 'after the doctor regenerates he is the first doctor', that's the way floors of a house work, not periods of time. While the first floor in a house is indeed the first floor above the ground, the first doctor is in no way the first AFTER a regeneration.Last edited by MickyD; 01 May 2010, 05:23 PM.Das guy eating vegetabbles, says 'Waock!' and nice guy obliteratio for sudden.
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Originally posted by WerewolfCas View PostTimelords are weird like that....with the regens......god only knows how many the master stole.....Das guy eating vegetabbles, says 'Waock!' and nice guy obliteratio for sudden.
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TPTB have state that Matt is the 11th Doctor in mini-docs.
I think regens have to be complete transformation and that they are conscious choice. I'm sure there may be some explanation like the process must go to completion or something.
As for Time Lords dying and regenerating over and over that has to do with the time lock. They are forever trapped within a single point or small period or something. Just like Capt Jack can't die because he's "fixed".
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Here's a little question for clouding the issue with.
In 1965 and 1966 two Doctor Who movies were released, both involving the Daleks, in which The Doctor was played by Peter Cushing. Several others were planned but never made, and his character also appeared in several comics and books, the latter used to reconcile the film continuity with that of the series.
Does he count as a Dr. in his own right? If he does he makes the latest reincarnation the 12th.
And to add further confusion the Daleks portrayed in the poster advertising the first film were used as the basis for the latest version of them.
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Peter Cushing doesn't count as an official Doctor. Those movies are adaptations of the First Doctor stories "The Daleks" & "The Dalek Invasion of Earth".
It's a little like the James Bond movie "Never Say Never Again". It's re-adaptation of "Thunderball" and not counted as part of the franchise proper."A society grows great when old men plant trees, the shade of which they know they will never sit in. Good people do things for other people. That's it, the end." -- Penelope Wilton in Ricky Gervais's After Life
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Originally posted by SeaBee View PostHere's a little question for clouding the issue with.
In 1965 and 1966 two Doctor Who movies were released, both involving the Daleks, in which The Doctor was played by Peter Cushing. Several others were planned but never made, and his character also appeared in several comics and books, the latter used to reconcile the film continuity with that of the series.
Does he count as a Dr. in his own right? If he does he makes the latest reincarnation the 12th.
And to add further confusion the Daleks portrayed in the poster advertising the first film were used as the basis for the latest version of them.
A full regeneration only counts when the physical body is changed due to cell's reorganizing themselves. Since the 10th Doctor's first regeneration was only to heal himself and then syphoned off into 'Handy', it doesn't count as a full regeneration.
Ergo, Matt Smith is the 11th Doctor. Not the 12th Doctor.
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