On Doctor Who and guns, well weapons. K-9 killed, well he was defending but he still took a life with a weapon. I think it was an alien but still. Also Leela had a big knife, she never used it on screen but she wanted to.
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Originally posted by CatGoddess View PostRandom question on the guns: Wouldn't Gwen have learned how to use a gun as part of her police training? Do cops in the UK not routinely carry guns? (Cops in the US do.) My understanding is that the UK has stricter gun control laws than the US does.
But then, given how she handled that knife once she'd confiscated it from Bad Eddie, perhaps that's just as well Gwen was never trained to use a gun...
Originally posted by CatGoddess View PostTosh definitely reminded me of Willow, but she also reminded me of Oracle from Birds of Prey - the person back at the base who has all the information at her fingertips and directs the people in the field. Both Willow and Oracle were well developed in their respective shows, so hopefully the same will be true of Tosh.
Originally posted by CatGoddess View PostAs for a Jack/Gwen ship, I don't like the idea. Jack will shag anything with a pulse, but he doesn't seem the type for a long-term relationship, and if he just shags her and walks away - well, there's a reason that it's unwise to date coworkers. But I am wondering if Gwen and her boyfriend might break up. Lots of couples break up or get divorced when one partner has a highly demanding job, and Gwen's boyfriend already seems unhappy with her demanding job at Torchwood.
I probably sound like a stuck record, but I'm going to say it anyway:
Enough with the Ship already!!!sigpic
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Originally posted by Chaka's_Mum View PostI probably sound like a stuck record, but I'm going to say it anyway:
Enough with the Ship already!!!scarimor
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Originally posted by Willow'sCat View PostSo Gwen and Owen are weak? Maybe, I just thought Jack touched it, and Tosh must have examined it and they didn't set it off.
As for the guns, our police don't carry guns because its much harder to buy them here than it is in the UK. I've seen armed police in an airport though, (and they certainly aren't packing hand guns, so it's damn intimidating I can tell you), so I was impressed that RTD did do some sort of training for Gwen, as it would have been unrealistic for her to just automatically know her way around guns.Last edited by The Signal; 01 November 2006, 11:42 AM.Equality is not a concept. It's not something we should be striving for. It's a necessity. Equality is like gravity. We need it to stand on this earth as men and women. And the misogyny that is in every culture is not a true part of the human condition. It is life out of balance, and that imbalance is sucking something out of the soul of every man and woman who is confronted with it.
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Originally posted by CatGoddess View PostRandom question on the guns: Wouldn't Gwen have learned how to use a gun as part of her police training? Do cops in the UK not routinely carry guns? (Cops in the US do.) My understanding is that the UK has stricter gun control laws than the US does.
According to the bbc (and this info is a little out of date): In 2001-02, there were some 22,300 firearms offences, a rise of almost a third on the previous year. The number of people killed by firearms was 23.
We flew to Paris on the morning of the alleged planned terror attacks this year and there were armed police even at Coventry International Shed.
Gun crime is actually affecting the applications of prospective students to universities in the Midlands. A lot of the recent gun-related crime has happened in cities like Birmingham and Nottingham. However irregular it actually is, it is being perceived by undergrads as a place that isn't as safe to in even if it isn't really the case.
As for the gun training, I thought it was all a little ghetto style gun in one hand, arms length etc...and then the Lara-Croft-two-guns thing...thats when I turned off and went to bed
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Originally posted by The Signal View PostIt only seemed to work in certain situations (under the bridge etc).
As for the guns, our police don't carry guns because its much harder to buy them here than it is in the UK. I've armed police in an airport though, (and they certainly aren't packing hand guns, so it's damn intimidating I can tell you), so I was impressed that RTD did do some sort of training for Gwen, as it would have been unrealistic for her to just automatically know her way around guns.
'All of this has happened before
And all of this will happen again
So say we all.'
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Originally posted by Othere View PostI dont know that it is so much that police can't afford to buy it - they would have a source like the military have to supply them with the necessary equipment.Equality is not a concept. It's not something we should be striving for. It's a necessity. Equality is like gravity. We need it to stand on this earth as men and women. And the misogyny that is in every culture is not a true part of the human condition. It is life out of balance, and that imbalance is sucking something out of the soul of every man and woman who is confronted with it.
- Joss Whedon - Equality Now
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Originally posted by The Signal View PostI meant the its harder for the general public Because its harder to get guns, theres less need for armed police. Sorry I wasnt clear
It's relatively easy to get a gun in the US. I could probably walk into a store tomorrow and buy one. You have to pass a criminal background check and maybe go through a waiting period, a psychological evaluation, and/or some training (the rules vary state by state).
I myself do not own a gun and never will. Very few civilians in the US carry firearms, with the possible exception of hunting weapons. It's ill advised. A home intruder or other attacker could easily turn your firearm against you. Also, children can get into trouble with their parents' guns; look at Jack O'Neill's son in the Stargate universe.
The right to bear arms is constitutionally protected (2nd Amendment - Bill of Rights).
So, the cops must be armed. Police in the US routinely carry handguns, even in quiet suburban areas such as where I live. I work in Lower Manhattan, and there are always police officers with machine guns (!) in the area of the New York Stock Exchange. Armed officers ride the subways.
But I understand better now, why firearms training would not be part of Gwen's routine police training.
*packs bags and moves to the UK*I'd start a revolution if I could get up in the morning.
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What do people make of the way that gun training scene played out? At the beginning, it looked to me like it was a quite serious matter, in that he was teaching Gwen to respect a firearm. By the end, it looked to me like they were playing.scarimor
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Originally posted by ShadowMaat View PostI don't think it's a matter of pushing buttons, I think the device more or less activates itself. Although I could be wrong. The first time it looked like Gwen might have pushed a button, but the other times... *shrug*scarimor
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Originally posted by BC - 303 View PostLondon police carry guns, but then again there is a constant terror alert here.
I've seen them, normally two police men walking around, each with a pistol, one normally with a sub machine gun, MP-5 perhaps.
It is scary and a recent addition.
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