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Originally posted by Annoyed View PostDisagree with you here. According to what was introduced in the original movie, currently titled "A New hope", the abilities the force gives a sensitive, one of which we would call preconception, or the ability to sense things around them is what allows a Jedi to wield a lightsaber effectively. Hence Luke's training with the remote with his blast shiled down in the wardroom of the Falocn.
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Originally posted by magi877 View Postok, this is connected to ep 9 as we saw it happen in ep 8 and the 'process' may come into play in ep 9
in ep 4 we saw Kenobi disappear when he was fighting Vader. He, we found out later, basically ascended body and soul (hey isn't that like SG 'ascension'?) to become a force ghost
but WHY does a ghost need a body?
Anakin also became a force ghost but his body remained. so, taking your body with you is not a pre-requisite
Originally posted by magi877 View Postin EP8 we see Luke disappear as well. BUT he (at his physical location) was not in any imminent threat of death, like Kenobi was with Vader. So why would he be dead?
Or is this a new Jedi/Force wielding power revealed
Originally posted by magi877 View Poston this wookiepedia site, it only explains what a force ghost is nothing about why the body disappears
Originally posted by magi877 View Post(also, it says that a SIth cannot become a Force ghost and that Anakin 'learned the secret from Kenobi". Ok, when?)
Originally posted by magi877 View Postalso on the new trilogy
why do so many people want to dig on Rey's abilites vs her 'lack of training'?
I'd say her time spent with Luke gave her just as much time as Luke did with Yoda
Fortunately, while those "fans" are certainly very vocal, they are also a tiny minority. Look no further than the ludicrous amounts of money Disney is raking in from Star Wars to understand just how inconsequential those whiny turds really are.
Originally posted by magi877 View Postjust how was it that Luke could pilot a INCOM T65 XWING fighter, the equivalent of our F-18 fighter bomber?
Luke was a hotshot pilot of a planetbound T-16 Skyhopper when he was just another teenager on Tatooine (it'll be just like Beggar's Canyon back home!" - Luke, "the best bush pilot in the Outer Rim Territories" - Biggs). He already knows the fundamentals of flying, and what he lacks in the finesse of proper training, he makes up with the (Force) intuition of knowing just the right times to dodge, just the right times to fire lasers, etc.
Much like his father:
Anakin was a hotshot pilot of a planetbound podracer when he was just another kid on Tatooine. He already knows the fundamentals of flying when he finds himself in the cockpit of the Naboo starfighter, and what he lacks in the finesse of proper training, he makes up for with the (Force) intuition of knowing just the right times to roll, just the right times to fire lasers/torpedoes, etc.
I've had my drivers' license and car for a long time. Just because I've never driven a NASCAR car doesn't mean I wouldn't be able to figure it out fairly quickly--I already know the fundamentals, even if I have no experience at driving a NASCAR car. Grant me Force-guided intuition to know when other people are going to crash, the right times to pass someone on the outside, etc. etc., and it's not a huge leap to expect that Jedi Digi could place fairly well in a race with non-Jedi drivers.
Originally posted by magi877 View Postin fact, in the anthology novel FROM A CERTAIN POINT OF VIEW, Luke is heavily criticized by all of the highly trained rebel pilots, including those who got bumped so he could fly. He wasn't just given a plane, he was put in command of his own squadron!Last edited by DigiFluid; 02 May 2019, 06:39 AM."A society grows great when old men plant trees, the shade of which they know they will never sit in. Good people do things for other people. That's it, the end." -- Penelope Wilton in Ricky Gervais's After Life
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Originally posted by P-90_177 View PostThat is true but The Force only really provides the higher reflexes required to say intercept blaster bolts or fight other force users. A non-force sensitive could still be trained to wield a lightsaber just like any other sword.
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"Luke was a hotshot pilot of a planetbound T-16 Skyhopper when he was just another teenager on Tatooine (it'll be just like Beggar's Canyon back home!" - Luke, "the best bush pilot in the Outer Rim Territories" - Biggs). He already knows the fundamentals of flying, and what he lacks in the finesse of proper training, he makes up with the (Force) intuition of knowing just the right times to dodge, just the right times to fire lasers, etc."
exactly (bolded)!
this is what the Luke fanbois/ haters of Rey always leave out
my question on how he can fly a xwing in combat is semi rhetorical (semi because as a retired soldier, i know that a kid playing soldier with a bb gun does not make him ready to go into a combat situation with out trng-- although his innate abilities may make him good at combat) to draw attn to the parallel with Luke's trng/lack thereof and Rey's trng/lack thereof
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[QUOTE=DigiFluid;14658074in there).
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It doesn't say that. It says that the Chosen One's "redemption and sacrifice made it possible for his consciousness to be preserved after death by Kenobi and Yoda."
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i was referring to this line in the article.. it seems to contradict itself
Individuals such as Yoda were able to physically interact with the world and people around them and use the Force when appearing as spirits.[10] The secret was later passed on to Obi-Wan Kenobi, Yoda, and Anakin Skywalker.[4]
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All that line says is that 'it was passed on.' It doesn't specify when or how or by whom; all it really does is point at the end of ROTJ and say: "here's the Force spirits of Yoda/Kenobi/Anakin, so it was obviously passed on somehow.""A society grows great when old men plant trees, the shade of which they know they will never sit in. Good people do things for other people. That's it, the end." -- Penelope Wilton in Ricky Gervais's After Life
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Originally posted by magi877 View Post"Luke was a hotshot pilot of a planetbound T-16 Skyhopper when he was just another teenager on Tatooine (it'll be just like Beggar's Canyon back home!" - Luke, "the best bush pilot in the Outer Rim Territories" - Biggs). He already knows the fundamentals of flying, and what he lacks in the finesse of proper training, he makes up with the (Force) intuition of knowing just the right times to dodge, just the right times to fire lasers, etc."
exactly (bolded)!
this is what the Luke fanbois/ haters of Rey always leave out
my question on how he can fly a xwing in combat is semi rhetorical (semi because as a retired soldier, i know that a kid playing soldier with a bb gun does not make him ready to go into a combat situation with out trng-- although his innate abilities may make him good at combat) to draw attn to the parallel with Luke's trng/lack thereof and Rey's trng/lack thereof
You're right in that he won't have the combat training, but he would have an edge in that the Force would give him a pretty reliable nudge to duck if something is about to blow up in his face, an edge that any other kid/soldier wouldn't have."A society grows great when old men plant trees, the shade of which they know they will never sit in. Good people do things for other people. That's it, the end." -- Penelope Wilton in Ricky Gervais's After Life
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Originally posted by Kilgharrah View Post
Also are Rey and Kylo fighting on top of the Falcon? It looks like a similar hull texture to what they’re standing on.Please do me a huge favour and help me be with the love of my life.
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I thought they were on Death Star debris, personally. The water and lighting remind me of that shot of it in the trailer."A society grows great when old men plant trees, the shade of which they know they will never sit in. Good people do things for other people. That's it, the end." -- Penelope Wilton in Ricky Gervais's After Life
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Originally posted by Teddybrown View PostDidnt realise Richard E Grant was going to be in this!
https://twitter.com/richardegrant/st...784257?lang=en"A society grows great when old men plant trees, the shade of which they know they will never sit in. Good people do things for other people. That's it, the end." -- Penelope Wilton in Ricky Gervais's After Life
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