Star Trek X1 -Open Discussion for those who have seen the movie

[Aegis]

Well I thought it about time we had a discussion about star trek 11. And I thought I start off.

Well where do you start, I should warn you now, I am a trek fan and not afraid to rip this to peices, one word at a time, one frame at a time if neccessary, it trek the greatest science fiction show ever created an it deserve scrutiny and the loving.

So where do you start as reimaginations go, it not as bad as the new James bond films, it maneage just about maintain the feel of trek, just about mind you. The creators may of got confused this is a complete imagination to such extent you might as well throw out 700 hours worth of storyline, countless hours of discussions between fans, dozens of novels, fan films, fan fiction, website, chuck them all in the bin because are pretty much all irrelevant, for these writers that is, not for me. They cannot be bothered to read up , whole well I know it already so may as well use it.

Now the opening scene it was tedious, all we detect thunder storm in space, my god give me a break, if want to get into debate or technobabble they could of at least use anomaly or time vortex but thunder storm, I burst out laughing, it was the ridiculous. Then we get this ridiculous long battle, Nero should of destroy the Kelvin in a blink of a eye, and yet they had to chick chat, evacuate and all survive except him come on.
An why we are onto space battles, we had what 3 films since DS9, and well they still have not manage to manage what they did on DS9 in terms of scale of space battles, pathetic.

The whole car chase scene, it was cool in a way, but it was not star trek and it was pretty lame, I actually said out lout just stun ****er or tracta beam his car to a stop. Do I even have to menton ridiculous cop suite, please if I wanted dark vader lookalike I go and see a new STW film or something.

Then there the whole super nova to destroy the galaxy, lame, need I say more. I mean give a reason, the last dominion super weapon, borg galaxy wiide self destruction from embarrassment of getting butts handed to them by Janeway something to explain why a entire galaxy would threaten by something that happens about 1 once a year in the milyway.

Am I ripping this film to peices enough yet, probably not.
Let move on so they did not get the science right, the space battles or teen angst scenes right. So what did they get right not a lot to be perfectly honest I would of said the humour and the jokes but then judging by the last time I thought Orci humor was good I re watch the film and hated every joke.
The CGI was a high point in what we got, I mean may be I am the odd one but seeing the massive armada of klingons being annihilated by romulans, it would of been fun, or the 7 ships that first arrive at vulcan. See this is my other problem there was far to much talking about events instead of showing them.

The Kobayashi Maru simulation scene, what I thought it would be a highlight of the film was a let down big time, we did not even see him flirt with the ensign who reprogram it. And the whole scene was way over the top. The whole point was for him to prove in his arrogrant that he was better tactically than everyone else at starfleet, and yet the whole thing was to dam obvious to fool anyone. They did not even need a expert witness to know he was cheating.
And the whole I fresh out the academy and then captain, come one. Then no mention of Captain April.
The on bit I did like was Spock and Uhura being lovers was a good call and surprise me.
Another thing that got on my nerves big time was how these cadidetes, who are just about to graduate from the academy, yet they acted like a bunch of kid who never been in space before or seen the station, comeon give the audience some credit for intelligence, they all been in out of space many time before and seen dozens of star ships, they should acted like it nothing special.

Whole an ignore the people who said the enterprise would look better on screen in motion. it does not, in fact it looked even worst. The bridge was a utter disaster, either go completly modern or stick to the old design not some between crap, it was slightly better than the kelvin because it was less crowded and overloaded with images but not by much.

So Star Trek 11 the second film of the summer blockbuster season, and after was a descent start form Xmen wolverine, that save that film franchise , star trek is still looking someone to save it. Did I mention I hate engineering and the water pipe scene, it was ridiculous. whole the transporter effect was just plain wrong, never mind treat the entire process like some sought of game.
4 out of 10 and that only because Uhura and spock storyline. Other wise it would of got a 2.

I will be adding more stuff later. But the polar bear creature was good and I even jump a little during that sequence. Another thing scotty was absolutely crap and who ever the actor that played him needs to be recast for the next film. Plus new writers and directors to. Whole and the music was annoying in several scenes to.

I'll have to disagree with you on most accounts. Yes, I didn't like the fact that engineering looked like a sewage treatment plant, but although there were some continuity changes that can't be explained by alternate timelines, I didn't care, because the movie was that good. The Uhura-Spock thing I thought was forced, but those are the only blemishes. The writing was very good, the character interactions were excellent, and the SFX was mind blowing. I love the cast, and hope they do many more movies and/or a series together. While it may wipe out one Star Trek universe, you can still buy that universe on DVD and watch it to your hearts content. This universe will bring Trek back to its glory days, and may surpass it, at least in following. I give this a 10/10.

I want the proper STAR TREK back,
You know:
William Shatner
Patrick Stewart
Avery Brooks
Kate Mulgrew
Hell even Scott Bakula

[TollanTom36]

I thought this movie was done brilliantly. For those upset that it just renders the whole timeline moot, it really doesn't because all of the events leading up to Spock trying to help the Romulans took place in the previous 40 years of Trek. You can still watch them in sequence with this one being the last event to basically reset. This movie could possibly continue the Trek Universe for 40 more years because of it. I think that it keeps the Trek faithful interested because they get to see there old favorite characters in a new technological look, plus bring in a whole new generation of fans to carry on the Trek Universe with the possiblity of a new tv series. Since the new movie was a hit, I can see potential for a new series that incorporates the new timeline.

If they continued with the existing timeline, the writing creativity would be very restricted because of all that has been done in the 40 years leading up to the new movie. I personally think this is really cool, I can't wait to see a new Kahn in HD/3-D and see where they go with it.

[rarocks24]

There is one scene, one scene that ruined the movie for me. Only one scene.

When Ayel was planning to make happy time with Kirk, he had amazingly white teeth that just ruined the whole scene and threw off my ability to suspend my disbelief.

[SaberBlade]

There is one scene, one scene that ruined the movie for me. Only one scene.

When Ayel was planning to make happy time with Kirk, he had amazingly white teeth that just ruined the whole scene and threw off my ability to suspend my disbelief.

White teeth was your problem with the movie? I must admit, out of all the possible reasons to be upset at the movie, that would never have crossed my mind at all.

[Coco Pops]

There is one scene, one scene that ruined the movie for me. Only one scene.

When Ayel was planning to make happy time with Kirk, he had amazingly white teeth that just ruined the whole scene and threw off my ability to suspend my disbelief.

Who was Ayel?

[rarocks24]

White teeth was your problem with the movie? I must admit, out of all the possible reasons to be upset at the movie, that would never have crossed my mind at all.

I was being facetious.

Coco Pops, Ayel was Nero's number two. The one who asked the questions to Captain Robau at the beginning. The one that Kirk kidney shot.

[Coco Pops]

I was being facetious.

Coco Pops, Ayel was Nero's number two. The one who asked the questions to Captain Robau at the beginning. The one that Kirk kidney shot.

Ah thanks. Haven't watched that in ages

[Infinite-Possibilities]

Was he named in the movie? I don't remember if he was.

[Aegis]

I thought this movie was done brilliantly. For those upset that it just renders the whole timeline moot, it really doesn't because all of the events leading up to Spock trying to help the Romulans took place in the previous 40 years of Trek. You can still watch them in sequence with this one being the last event to basically reset. This movie could possibly continue the Trek Universe for 40 more years because of it. I think that it keeps the Trek faithful interested because they get to see there old favorite characters in a new technological look, plus bring in a whole new generation of fans to carry on the Trek Universe with the possiblity of a new tv series. Since the new movie was a hit, I can see potential for a new series that incorporates the new timeline.

If they continued with the existing timeline, the writing creativity would be very restricted because of all that has been done in the 40 years leading up to the new movie. I personally think this is really cool, I can't wait to see a new Kahn in HD/3-D and see where they go with it.

To be honest I wouldn't mindif they fixed the timeline somehow

[LtColCarter]

To be honest I wouldn't mindif they fixed the timeline somehow

I kinda like it the way it is.