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    #16
    This was the most disappointing season finale I ever seen, with all the bells and whistle for it and what we got in the end a battle behind close doors literary, and a little scene with Peter tranquillising Sylar and then in the end WTF :? could they not just used Clairs blood to heal Nathan. And for God sake all I sow for a whole season was a storyline with Sylar getting powerful and more powerful by each season. And thinking back now writers hated when they made Peter very powerful and it seems now that they are repeating their mistake again. Sylar getting more powerful and tormenting the rest was just too boring to watch over and over, I think they should kill him once and for all this Season and change the Baddie, cause if they keep it up the same way and the writers are still in love with EMO Sylar and his weirdness I will stop watching this show!

    Oh... and WTF "Sylan" who ever came up with this Sylar being Nathan needs to be hang from a tree, I can see from a mile that Sylar is going to remember who he is in mid season by probably shooting a lightning from his hands and asking wtf I cant do that, then slowly regaining his memories and blah blah blah.....this starts to look more like a cheesy soap with superpowers than live action comic, we havent seen a decent fight since IDK Season 1 maybe..... I think I should end here now before it gets out of hand

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      #17
      Unfortuantly the action sequences and fighter scenes will probably be decrease further next season, especially with network slashing the budget for next season and still keeping much of the cast.

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        #18
        The lack of fighting didn't bother me at all, Heroes has never been a show with lots of action, take the first season for example: it was great, but did it have action and fighting? Nah.

        I hope they do the Sylan storyline well, I'd like to see him using his abilites thinking 'wtf i can't do that', and when he finds out he's Sylar he goes 'no I don't want to be him', instead of having him regain his abilities and memories, going full-Sylar-psychokiller again and starting over for the 4th time. No, this Sylan thing can be pretty refreshing if written well.
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        Mia: Uncomfortable silences. Why do we feel it's necessary to yak about bullsh*t in order to be comfortable?
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          #19
          Originally posted by tainor View Post

          Oh... and WTF "Sylan" who ever came up with this Sylar being Nathan needs to be hang from a tree

          we havent seen a decent fight since IDK Season 1 maybe..... I think I should end here now before it gets out of hand
          I think when you're suggesting that someone be hanged from a tree, you've already crossed some sort of line. :| Lighten up. Its a freakin' TV show.

          Also, have you honestly been watching this show just to see some flashy fight scenes every couple of episodes? There have been some in the past but that has never been what this show has been about.
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            #20
            Originally posted by knowles2 View Post
            So peter is back to his full power, well unless he was stupid and did not absorb Sylar base line ability and then use that ability to absorb the rest of Sylar powers.
            I'm pretty sure he just took shape shifting, because he was pretty specific when he told Sylar that he bet he didn't think he'd take that one. Sylar's might take more time and effort to absorb people's powers. If you want a more logical explanation, Peter already took Sylar's base ability once and had that whole issue with the hunger and crap, so I'm sure he'd want to avoid that again.

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              #21
              Woooaah...loved that.

              Great stuff from sylar and claire. Shame about peter and nate vs sylar, but I've given up hoping for it so I dont really mind. Mama petrelli was great in the little screen time she got and sylan is a gonna be a great storyline next volume. AS for ali larter (ill have some that!)

              The whole claires blood thing, while I realised it, It didnt really bother me because the healing thing stopped death and that knocked any significance of death from Heroes. SO I'm glad they just left it behind.

              Overall... very good, could of used ando more though
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                #22
                My expectations for "Heroes" have been fairly low of late. Like many others, I had hoped that Bryan Fuller's return to the writers' room would provide the jump start necessary to get the show back on track. Initially, it seemed to be happening, but the past few episodes have been uneven and full of the usual plot holes. So coming into the finale, I wasn't expecting much. In fact, given how often the writers for "Heroes" blow the landing each and every volume, lowered expectations seem fairly justified.

                So it's not surprising that the writers failed to deliver an on-screen showdown between Nathan, Peter, and Sylar, with powers on display. As soon as the Petrelli brothers rushed in to take down Sylar, I knew those doors would close and we wouldn't see anything substantial, just the aftermath. A lot of pieces of the finale puzzle were missing in the same manner. In a way, there was simply too much story to tell.

                Given some of the plot elements in "Caprica" and the most recent episode of "Dollhouse", this episode felt rather timely. If all the memories, experiences, and personality of an individual can be absorbed into someone, if the original dies, does that individual live on? Or is it a shadow of the original person, something that should never be attempted? And what about the original personality, buried and suppressed? There are shades of "Babylon 5" in there as well.

                It seems like a bit of a cheat, yet another way to kill a character yet keep them around, but the end of the episode (technically, the beginning of Volume Five) clearly shows that it will be a little more complicated than that. I don't expect Sylar to remain caged for long; the character and actor are too popular for that. After all, Sylar always seems to be the best part of each volume's finale.

                The plot twist did allow them to take the most powerful character around and put them under lock and key. In the process, the Company was reborn. With all the familiar characters standing around the pyre of Fake!Sylar, it brought to mind the Twelve and Adam Monroe. The finale makes everything seem happy, as if a major problem was averted, but this all seems like repeating the sins of the past. Matt was right: keeping Sylar alive at all is a terrible risk.

                Not all of the plot elements were as interesting or logical. One can understand Angela's decision to use Sylar to keep Nathan around in relation to her recent talk about family and experience with Alice. Hiro's wear and tear from using his ability seems to come out of nowhere, and it feels like the writers just wanted to give Hiro back his ability long enough for it to be available when needed.

                It's also a bit too much of a plot convenience for Peter to acquire just the right ability to fool Sylar. At least, that's what Peter made it seem like when he taunted Sylar in the limo. If Peter's drug-induced ability is to absorb another person's ability, only one at a time, wouldn't he have acquired Sylar's core ability? In other words, wouldn't Peter have what he acquired when grabbing Sylar's ability back in the third volume? It didn't quite add up.

                The stage is set for the next volume, which may or may not play over the course of a shortened spring 2010 season (ala "Lost" and "24"). Does the title ("Redemption") refer to the characters, the writing staff, the producers, or all of the above? I suppose only time will tell.

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                  #23
                  Disappointing

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                    #24
                    I gotta say, bringing nathan back to keep sylar around....dude 'have your cake and eat it too'

                    it may not have been a jump the shark moment, but that critter certainly was circling


                    can't they kill people off and leave them dead? i'm getting sick and tired of no one ever really dying
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                      #25
                      Originally posted by entil2001 View Post
                      In other words, wouldn't Peter have what he acquired when grabbing Sylar's ability back in the third volume? It didn't quite add up.
                      Peter had no powers till he injected himself with the formula, which gave him that limited ability. When he touched Sylar in the finale, he now has the same kind of power he had when the series started.
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                        #26
                        Originally posted by Descent View Post
                        Peter had no powers till he injected himself with the formula, which gave him that limited ability. When he touched Sylar in the finale, he now has the same kind of power he had when the series started.
                        Possibly. We won't know for sure until next season begins.
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                          #27
                          Overall this season as a whole was the weakest to date in my opinion. I often found myself a little bored just waiting for something to happen all through the middle of the season.

                          That being said I was quite pleased with the finale' I would have liked to know more about Hiro's condition and I'm a little frustrated that Ando never supercharged him or Claire didn't give him a little blood. Also, he still can't teleport. What they did with Hiro was frustrating this season, and Peter but at least he is back.

                          I like that Sylar will be back to fight another day, he is a great villain.
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                            #28
                            I am surprised no one is wondering why did none of the Secret Service guys ask Nathan when the hell did you have Claire ? I if bet Nathan's ex met her she would be so happy that she would think Claire is her own daughter & if the writers hate Claire's magical blood so much then write it off the show like they tried doing with Peter & Hiro you stupid lazy ******* writers. Not even Bryan Fuller being back can save this show thank god its trimmed down next season

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                              #29
                              Originally posted by JackO'Neill View Post
                              I am surprised no one is wondering why did none of the Secret Service guys ask Nathan when the hell did you have Claire ? I if bet Nathan's ex met her she would be so happy that she would think Claire is her own daughter & if the writers hate Claire's magical blood so much then write it off the show like they tried doing with Peter & Hiro you stupid lazy ******* writers. Not even Bryan Fuller being back can save this show thank god its trimmed down next season
                              May be the secrete service guy just knows there not senator in town that does not have a little dirty secrete that they do not want the public know about and so have learnt or been taught not to ignore it and not to ask questions about it. In this case is was a secrete daughter. It probably not the worst he seen in his career around in washington escorting the president around. How ever I was surprise how easy it was to convince him to go along with the plan with Parkman there to manipulate him into doing it.
                              An how he sacrifice his life for the plan.

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                                #30
                                I don't think Claire being Nathan's daughter is that big of a secret anymore, but even if it is the secret service would be the guys that know that kind of stuff. Not that big of a shocker.
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