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Throne For a Loss
This is rare Farscape form. We really got two stories that climax at the end of the show. We'll start with the first story. We'll start with the first one. I remember when I first saw this episode I thought it was a rip off of the Stargate episode Upgrades. Research shows that this Farscape episode actually comes first. This is just a continuation of the theme of previous Actually its a theme of most of S1. This episode is again about the bonding of the team. Mostly about John, Aeryn, and D'Argo. In some ways I think we may have taken a step back from the last episode. Notice Zhann's frustration with the idea of Crichton having a plan and how Aeryn says he is almost as clumsy as Luxans. That aside I think if it was me, I would have abandoned Rygel. I mean that is the whole point he took the crystal from Moya's propulsion system. It was an insurance policy. Makes me wonder why they even brought him back in the first place at the end of the episode. He is the reason they got in the whole mess in the first place. Changing gears, I loved the opening where John and Aeryn have to knock D'Argo unconscious while he wear the gauntlet. You want creative SQ? I'll give you creative. I thought the venting to accelerate D'Argo forward so he becomes unconscious was creative. The rest of the main story is just us following the Talvelks. I think the gauntlet is used to highlit what is angering D'Argo and Aeryn. They both anger because of their situations. If you think about the people that is angering them is right in front of them. I mean Aeryn punched John before she even had the gauntlet on. Its not surprising she is mad at him given how he is responsible in some way for losing her Peacekeeper status. Otherwise its just a boring search for Rygel. So this raises the question of why is John not mad? We don't see him really get angry like the others. I think this is because his life on Earth was cushy compared to Aeryn and D'Argo. Before we move on to Rygel viewpoint, I wan to say I love seeing D'Argo sword change to a gun. I found myself bored with the Rygel in the alien prison. I don't need 10 minutes of seeing Rygel gloat of how great he is. It seemed uneeded. The only saving grace is the end when gauntlet John and the Talveks kick Rygel in the bag. Rygel's selfishness annoys me a lot of times. I don't want to know what he did in that bathroom. The second part is the story of how Zhaan helps that Talvek deal with addiction. I for one am surprised more of Zhaan wasn't censored when they showed her naked. This episode highlights why I love Zhaan so much. She had the peace and empathy to want to help with his drug addiction. After all I think we can agree that the gauntlet is a drug. At the same time when Zhaan has been fooled, she is more than capable of knocking the guy. It shows both sides of Zhaan to me She cares but will knock you out when you do something stupid. I liked the ending of how everything Zhaan did to help was undone. You can feel her pain at the episodes end. I will close to say how I was annoyed with John's pop culture references thinking everyone knows what they meanOriginally posted by aretood2Jelgate is right
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Originally posted by squirrely1 View Postyou are just hung up on the word creative cuz it's too closely related to art.
Originally posted by Falcon Horus View PostDoesn't John make a note about that - how some people keep animals as pets and others eat them. To Zhaan.
I guess, that's what happens when you're a Doctor Who fan - you get them confused.
If you look at any of the other CG I'm surprised Rygel comes out this flawed. Although, there's a difference between backdrops I guess and character animation. The latter much harder and more difficult to accomplish, even this day and each.
Those were the days.
Originally posted by squirrely1 View Post@Jel...I didn't notice you had responded to my other stuff... I thought it was all FH's responses. Just wanted to point out that I do like Star Wars actually. I can't call myself a true Sci Fi Geek and not like Star Wars. BUT... I don't like the writing and character development alot of times. I think they cheat and take the easy way out. Of course in a movie of only 2 hours duration you have to speed up character development to a point unlike when you have a TV series you can give nice character arcs that take longer and they can go through a much harrowing journey. In a way that makes Television series' way more compelling when it comes to great characters IMO.
Originally posted by Falcon Horus View PostStar Wars is a space opera -- it doesn't do character development well in general. And yet, I love it.Originally posted by aretood2Jelgate is right
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Throne for a Loss
Before I start, I held a Eurovision Party ( kinda like a musical Superbowl for the US people) yesterday. This means two things:
a.) I had to skip the Exodus from Genesis rewatch, but I’ve enjoyed reading all the observations in this thread; and
b.) I am still quite hungover.
Consequently what follows may lack observation and coherent sentences. However , here we go... ‘Throne for a Loss’.
From an editing pov: there are a lot of very nice moving shots in this episode. Plenty of action, both interior and exterior, particular for a series 1 episode. I think I spotted several shots that are used in the title credits right up to the end of series 4.
Similarly (for the shippers out there) Aeryn and John seem to be constantly falling into/onto each other with very little respect for personal boundaries. Always useful when you’re trying to mash something together.
The blue leaves thing on the planet look cool. I wonder how they did that? I’d guess filter or something in the grading. I’ve tried to have a go copying the effect it with my WMM but the best I’ve come up with still turns everything slightly tinted. Hey ho.
Like Jelgate, I enjoyed the fact that the alien bloke goes back to his addiction at the end, rejecting Zahn’s teachings. Gives it a nice little twist.
Now, my favourite scene: the ‘don’t you ‘tch’ me' scene. For me this is what’s different about Farscape: characters come before plot (with all the benefits and disadvantages for a series that entails). Characters remember what’s happened to them from scene to scene and episode to episode.
Most shows would play Aeryn knocking out Crichton to get him down the planet (and move the plot on) totally comedic. Whilst Farscape as a show keeps the tone light, Crichton as a character is deadly serious. Of course he wouldn’t be okay with her shanghaiing him! Of course he wouldn’t just ‘forget about’ it in the next scene. He’s going to be pissed off.
Crichton ‘calling out’ Aeryn is also interesting in that (at least more than most shows) it starts to treat violence toward a man as it would violence toward a woman. If you switch their genders (but not their backstory), a TV show wouldn’t have a love-interest male peacekeeper casually hit and knock out a heroine Crichton… not at least without a reference to a ‘serious talk’ being needed.
I also think that ‘Wyle E Cayote could have come up with a better plan than that’ could be the official Moya crew motto for the next four years.Last edited by Bluemeany; 15 May 2016, 02:16 PM.
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Originally posted by jelgate View PostI will close to say how I was annoyed with John's pop culture references thinking everyone knows what they mean
Part verbal reminder of something from home to anchor himself. But mainly like little acts of revenge.
He doesn’t understand what all the aliens are talking about half the time and he is trying to learn all the terms (i.e. ‘Tavleks’). Generally the rest of Moya get irritated that he doesn’t just know the stuff they do.
It’s only fair to make them as confused by what he is saying and expect that they have to learn some of his references in return.
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Originally posted by Bluemeany View PostThrone for a Loss
Before I start, I held a Eurovision Party ( kinda like a musical Superbowl for the US people) yesterday. This means two things:
a.) I had to skip the Exodus from Genesis rewatch, but I’ve enjoyed reading all the observations in this thread; and
b.) I am still quite hungover.
Consequently what follows may lack observation and coherent sentences. However , here we go ‘Throne for a Loss’.
From an editing pov: there are a lot of very nice moving shots in this episode. Plenty of action, both interior and exterior, particular for a series 1 episode. I think I spotted several shots that are used in the title credits right up to the end of series 4.
Similarly (for the shippers out there) Aeryn and John seem to be constantly falling into/onto each other with very little respect for personal boundaries. Always useful when you’re trying to mash something together.
The blue leaves thing on the planet look cool. I wonder how they did that? I’d guess filter or something in the grading. I’ve tried to have a go copying the effect it with my WMM but the best I’ve come up with still turns everything slightly tinted. Hey ho.
Like Jelgate, I enjoyed the fact that the alien bloke goes back to his addiction at the end, rejecting Zahn’s teachings. Gives it a nice little twist.
Now, my favourite scene: the ‘don’t you ‘tch’ me' scene. For me this is what’s different about Farscape: characters come before plot (with all the benefits and disadvantages for a series that entails). Characters remember what’s happened to them from scene to scene and episode to episode.
Most shows would play Aeryn knocking out Crichton to get him down the planet (and move the plot on) totally comedic. Whilst Farscape as a show keeps the tone light, Crichton as a character is deadly serious. Of course he wouldn’t be okay with her shanghaiing him! Of course he wouldn’t just ‘forget about’ it in the next scene. He’s going to be pissed off.
Crichton ‘calling out’ Aeryn is also interesting in that (at least more than most shows) it starts to treat violence toward a man as it would violence toward a woman. If you switch their genders (but not their backstory), a TV show wouldn’t have a love-interest male peacekeeper casually hit and knock out a heroine!Crichton… not at least without a reference to a ‘serious talk’ being needed.
I also think that ‘Wyle E Cayote could have come up with a better plan than that’ could be the official Moya crew motto for the next four years.
Originally posted by Bluemeany View PostSee, I’ve always viewed Crichton’s pop culture references as kind of a psychological comfort blanket.
Part verbal reminder of something from home to anchor himself. But mainly like little acts of revenge.
He doesn’t understand what all the aliens are talking about half the time and he is trying to learn all the terms (i.e. ‘Tavleks’). Generally the rest of Moya get irritated that he doesn’t just know the stuff they do.
It’s only fair to make them as confused by what he is saying and expect that they have to learn some of his references in return.Originally posted by aretood2Jelgate is right
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Wow love all the insights so far! Even "hung over" Bluemeany's! *giggles* so here we go..
Throne For A Loss
In the beginning....hmmm something else starts this way...*scratches head and shrugs* Oh well....In the beginning what really struck me was just how cranky everyone was and immediately I remembered the 4 stages of Team Building (Forming, Storming, Norming and Performing)....(which was very prevalent at the time this was in production) and it appears they are using this. The team up to now has been newly formed (only 3 or so eps in we can figure they haven't been together too long) so this is quite natural that the team is moving into the "STORMING" phase. They are getting on each others nerves, they are starting to get a tad selfish and I noticed as Jel pointed out they are regressing back somewhat into their "oh Crichton is a neanderthal" mentality. So to me this was obvious that the team at this point was struggling with finding a way to put aside their differences and truly gel. Here is what I truly loved about this ep:
Drugs, Warriors and Weapons...oh my!
The other very obvious theme in this ep to me was the struggle for who had the bigger *ahem* member ....If you know what I mean Typical struggle for the Alpha "male" and Aeryn is not off the board, but keep in mind this is a running theme between D'argo and Crichton (early on in this series)...each of them are really trying to flex their muscles to one another to determine who is going to be the true leader of this group. I think this is why D'Argo seems so angry in these early eps. John just uses his brain and tries to out think and out wit D....but D is mainly more about showing how superior his brute strength is. Thinking that would make him the better leader. So this brings me to his Qualta blade. Love that weapon too Jel and how it was converted in this ep. But again this has been something D'argo has been "stroking" LOL literally throughout the eps and we finally get to see this thing in action.
Aeryn too is all about the brute strength in this ep. It really is framed nicely since we just came off 2 rather peaceful and symbiotic seeking eps that quite naturally this string of violence brings about a refreshing change and allows the opportunity to see our more battle ready characters flex their warrior muscles. But even before she puts on the gauntlet she is bound and determined, despite John's insistence that she take along her rifle. And then upon meeting the motley Tevleks John is shocked he has (aside from the warring PK's) miscalculated and is standing face to face with a brutal society. I liked that whole encounter and John's surprise. Good thing Aeryn brought along that Rifle! But my point is Aeryn is naturally already battle ready as D is ...ready for a good fight. And the gauntlet for them really intensifies this.
So the natural warrior is heightened when D or even Aeryn for that matter put on the gautlet. Notice it didn't really affect John that way. He didn't get as "angry" with it on as Aeryn and D did I think mainly because John isn't naturally more hell bent on the warrior behavior like Aeryn and D'argo are.
Speaking of the guantlet, I loved that weapon BTW and again the creative concepts the writing team comes up with for these eps. Which brings me to the Drugs part and probably the only thing that truly bothered me in this ep. Now jel don't go all crazy on me....but Zhaan actually bugged me in this ep. *ducks flying objects* the reason is twofold:
1. Zhaan I think at times is too trusting to a fault. I knew the moment she was called away and that Tavlek said he would find his way back, I knew that wouldn't end well and sure enough. I call plot device on that as we wouldn't have had a chance to see Zhaan's strong side as in her brute strength there we go again that word just keeps cropping up in this ep. But again, I found it annoying that she would saunter off so easily to leave her ward just hanging out with full run of the ship.
2. Zhaan seems to be hell bent on forcing her ward to get clean and stay clean. We all know that it's hard to help an addict unless the addict wants your help. It's clear this is the way of the Tavlek and by Zhaan's insistence on him coming around and kicking his habit and changing she was assuming that he wanted that and that it would be better for him. Whatever happened to live and let live and do not interfere...oh wait that's Star Trek....sorry But again, I just think she was trying to force her own ways onto this species.
But it's not all bad...jel don't fear....cuz I loved how they exchanged their nakedness. This was brilliant in that it again supported the theme that "I have bigger balls than you" type thing. Or "I'll show you mine if you show me yours" I really liked how this ep was all about raw power and stripping away quite literally at all the things that characters can tend to hide behind.
So at the end of the day the drug, the clothes even the weapons themselves can be an extension of the character which can give them a sort of identity but then remove that and you get a glimpse of another side of them and they were all about comparing that to each other in this ep.
Aeryn and John's bickering
@Bluemeany-Thanks for pointing out that Aeryn/John shippers would love this ep because they were falling all over each other and touching each other. Then you have D'argo's Don't touch me! It was a lovely contrast. I also loved how John and Aeryn are bickering like a married couple. LOL ANd it's interesting that you would compare the gender roles in violence towards each other. I also liked how John was not going to let her off the hook. And I wish he would've had it in him (if she hadn't knocked him out) to punch her right back. I loved that about Battlestar Galactica with Starbuck and Apollo....she got just as much as she dished out and rightly so.
But back to John and Aeryn...I like how they are the sort of barometer of the team and when they fight or are bickering it sort of effects the whole team. I enjoy them trying to come to terms with the (albeit slight at this point) attraction to one another and how that is effecting them and their relationship and that maybe they are denying any feelings they may be having and or even replacing them with frustration or anger.
@Jel-your point about leaving Rygel. Come on he just saved them in the last ep, they couldn't leave him....well if it were up to the rest of the crew maybe but John and Zhaan wouldn't hear of it. Besides he had the crystal and if you noticed when John finally got the bagged Rygel he had swallowed the crystal so he had to take him back or maybe even at that point John may have even left him there.
Finally the ending was bittersweet but I liked it that Zhaan's efforts didn't pay off with regard to sobering up the Tavlek. And I think that was way more realistic and another reason why I love this show because at the end of the day everything isn't all tied up in a nice neat little package. It shows that life is messy even in the other galaxies and you can't force others to do what you want them to do just because you think it's better for them. I think that was a great learning experience for Zhaan too and shows that while she is very loving and strong, she also fails and takes her failures to heart. It's the failures of these characters that many times makes them so charming.Originally posted by jelgateThis brings much pain but SQ is right
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Originally posted by squirrely1 View PostI really liked how this ep was all about raw power and stripping away quite literally at all the things that characters can tend to hide behind.
So at the end of the day the drug, the clothes even the weapons themselves can be an extension of the character which can give them a sort of identity but then remove that and you get a glimpse of another side of them and they were all about comparing that to each other in this ep.
Aeryn, D’Argo and (to a lesser extent) Crichton get testosterone-fueled power and aggression by putting an item of clothing on.
Zahn tries to control the situation by using attraction/vulnerability and taking everything off.
Kind of mirrors what you were saying about where John & Aeryn’s relationship is at this point: there are two modes they are switching between: aggression and frustration on the one hand, and attraction on the other… both more to do with hormones than actually conscious choices.
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Originally posted by jelgate View PostBecause they are smaller?
Originally posted by Bluemeany View PostBefore I start, I held a Eurovision Party ( kinda like a musical Superbowl for the US people) yesterday.
So I watched my country start the show and then sorta lingered during dinner, and then moved on.
Originally posted by Bluemeany View PostThe blue leaves thing on the planet look cool. I wonder how they did that? I’d guess filter or something in the grading. I’ve tried to have a go copying the effect it with my WMM but the best I’ve come up with still turns everything slightly tinted. Hey ho.
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So, the Tafloids are in the business of kidnap-and-ransom. And getting addicted to methamphetemines or PCP, but without the dellusions.
Zhaan tries to get one of them clean, while John and Aeryn have to go and free the little furball as he took an insurance policy not to be left behind (on any occasion).
Aeryn and D'Argo wearing the glove fuels their warrior side -- John's a geek and thus he becomes a superhero. And then it fails, and he's left to his wits to safe the situation from becoming ugly. Rygel gets kicked a lot and stuck in mud, his least favorite thing to be around.
Aeryn and D'Argo compare headaches.Heightmeyer's Lemming -- still the coolest Lemming of the forum
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Originally posted by Falcon Horus View Post
From the looks of it, I'd say that they spray painted the plants on site. I think itt's an actual effect done by the prop/set department.
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I'm still leaning towards it being a filter trick done in the edit you know... but I'll be damned if I can copy it or figure out how it was done.
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Originally posted by squirrely1 View PostWow love all the insights so far! Even "hung over" Bluemeany's! *giggles* so here we go..
Throne For A Loss
In the beginning....hmmm something else starts this way...*scratches head and shrugs* Oh well....In the beginning what really struck me was just how cranky everyone was and immediately I remembered the 4 stages of Team Building (Forming, Storming, Norming and Performing)....(which was very prevalent at the time this was in production) and it appears they are using this. The team up to now has been newly formed (only 3 or so eps in we can figure they haven't been together too long) so this is quite natural that the team is moving into the "STORMING" phase. They are getting on each others nerves, they are starting to get a tad selfish and I noticed as Jel pointed out they are regressing back somewhat into their "oh Crichton is a neanderthal" mentality. So to me this was obvious that the team at this point was struggling with finding a way to put aside their differences and truly gel. Here is what I truly loved about this ep:Drugs, Warriors and Weapons...oh my!
The other very obvious theme in this ep to me was the struggle for who had the bigger *ahem* member ....If you know what I mean Typical struggle for the Alpha "male" and Aeryn is not off the board, but keep in mind this is a running theme between D'argo and Crichton (early on in this series)...each of them are really trying to flex their muscles to one another to determine who is going to be the true leader of this group. I think this is why D'Argo seems so angry in these early eps. John just uses his brain and tries to out think and out wit D....but D is mainly more about showing how superior his brute strength is. Thinking that would make him the better leader. So this brings me to his Qualta blade. Love that weapon too Jel and how it was converted in this ep. But again this has been something D'argo has been "stroking" LOL literally throughout the eps and we finally get to see this thing in action.
Aeryn too is all about the brute strength in this ep. It really is framed nicely since we just came off 2 rather peaceful and symbiotic seeking eps that quite naturally this string of violence brings about a refreshing change and allows the opportunity to see our more battle ready characters flex their warrior muscles. But even before she puts on the gauntlet she is bound and determined, despite John's insistence that she take along her rifle. And then upon meeting the motley Tevleks John is shocked he has (aside from the warring PK's) miscalculated and is standing face to face with a brutal society. I liked that whole encounter and John's surprise. Good thing Aeryn brought along that Rifle! But my point is Aeryn is naturally already battle ready as D is ...ready for a good fight. And the gauntlet for them really intensifies this.
So the natural warrior is heightened when D or even Aeryn for that matter put on the gautlet. Notice it didn't really affect John that way. He didn't get as "angry" with it on as Aeryn and D did I think mainly because John isn't naturally more hell bent on the warrior behavior like Aeryn and D'argo are.
Speaking of the guantlet, I loved that weapon BTW and again the creative concepts the writing team comes up with for these eps. Which brings me to the Drugs part and probably the only thing that truly bothered me in this ep. Now jel don't go all crazy on me....but Zhaan actually bugged me in this ep. *ducks flying objects* the reason is twofold:
1. Zhaan I think at times is too trusting to a fault. I knew the moment she was called away and that Tavlek said he would find his way back, I knew that wouldn't end well and sure enough. I call plot device on that as we wouldn't have had a chance to see Zhaan's strong side as in her brute strength there we go again that word just keeps cropping up in this ep. But again, I found it annoying that she would saunter off so easily to leave her ward just hanging out with full run of the ship.
2. Zhaan seems to be hell bent on forcing her ward to get clean and stay clean. We all know that it's hard to help an addict unless the addict wants your help. It's clear this is the way of the Tavlek and by Zhaan's insistence on him coming around and kicking his habit and changing she was assuming that he wanted that and that it would be better for him. Whatever happened to live and let live and do not interfere...oh wait that's Star Trek....sorry But again, I just think she was trying to force her own ways onto this species.
But it's not all bad...jel don't fear....cuz I loved how they exchanged their nakedness. This was brilliant in that it again supported the theme that "I have bigger balls than you" type thing. Or "I'll show you mine if you show me yours" I really liked how this ep was all about raw power and stripping away quite literally at all the things that characters can tend to hide behind.
So at the end of the day the drug, the clothes even the weapons themselves can be an extension of the character which can give them a sort of identity but then remove that and you get a glimpse of another side of them and they were all about comparing that to each other in this ep.
Aeryn and John's bickering
@Bluemeany-Thanks for pointing out that Aeryn/John shippers would love this ep because they were falling all over each other and touching each other. Then you have D'argo's Don't touch me! It was a lovely contrast. I also loved how John and Aeryn are bickering like a married couple. LOL ANd it's interesting that you would compare the gender roles in violence towards each other. I also liked how John was not going to let her off the hook. And I wish he would've had it in him (if she hadn't knocked him out) to punch her right back. I loved that about Battlestar Galactica with Starbuck and Apollo....she got just as much as she dished out and rightly so.
But back to John and Aeryn...I like how they are the sort of barometer of the team and when they fight or are bickering it sort of effects the whole team. I enjoy them trying to come to terms with the (albeit slight at this point) attraction to one another and how that is effecting them and their relationship and that maybe they are denying any feelings they may be having and or even replacing them with frustration or anger.
@Jel-your point about leaving Rygel. Come on he just saved them in the last ep, they couldn't leave him....well if it were up to the rest of the crew maybe but John and Zhaan wouldn't hear of it. Besides he had the crystal and if you noticed when John finally got the bagged Rygel he had swallowed the crystal so he had to take him back or maybe even at that point John may have even left him there.
Finally the ending was bittersweet but I liked it that Zhaan's efforts didn't pay off with regard to sobering up the Tavlek. And I think that was way more realistic and another reason why I love this show because at the end of the day everything isn't all tied up in a nice neat little package. It shows that life is messy even in the other galaxies and you can't force others to do what you want them to do just because you think it's better for them. I think that was a great learning experience for Zhaan too and shows that while she is very loving and strong, she also fails and takes her failures to heart. It's the failures of these characters that many times makes them so charming.
Originally posted by Bluemeany View PostOoo yes, that’s a good thought. I hadn’t picked up on that:
Aeryn, D’Argo and (to a lesser extent) Crichton get testosterone-fueled power and aggression by putting an item of clothing on.
Zahn tries to control the situation by using attraction/vulnerability and taking everything off.
Kind of mirrors what you were saying about where John & Aeryn’s relationship is at this point: there are two modes they are switching between: aggression and frustration on the one hand, and attraction on the other… both more to do with hormones than actually conscious choices.Originally posted by aretood2Jelgate is right
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Originally posted by Falcon Horus View PostBecause backdrops rarely need much moving.
I watched until Israel came on and then switched back to Farscape.
So I watched my country start the show and then sorta lingered during dinner, and then moved on.
From the looks of it, I'd say that they spray painted the plants on site. I think itt's an actual effect done by the prop/set department.
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So, the Tafloids are in the business of kidnap-and-ransom. And getting addicted to methamphetemines or PCP, but without the dellusions.
Zhaan tries to get one of them clean, while John and Aeryn have to go and free the little furball as he took an insurance policy not to be left behind (on any occasion).
Aeryn and D'Argo wearing the glove fuels their warrior side -- John's a geek and thus he becomes a superhero. And then it fails, and he's left to his wits to safe the situation from becoming ugly. Rygel gets kicked a lot and stuck in mud, his least favorite thing to be around.
Aeryn and D'Argo compare headaches.
Originally posted by Bluemeany View PostBlimey! It must have taken them ages to spray them all. It was like the entire forest. Unless they are dropping the paint from the air napalm style . How the hell do you get environmental permission for that? Hopefully they used something non-toxic....
I'm still leaning towards it being a filter trick done in the edit you know... but I'll be damned if I can copy it or figure out how it was done.Originally posted by aretood2Jelgate is right
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Originally posted by Bluemeany View PostBlimey! It must have taken them ages to spray them all. It was like the entire forest. Unless they are dropping the paint from the air napalm style . How the hell do you get environmental permission for that? Hopefully they used something non-toxic....
Originally posted by jelgate View PostBut the ships do?
Originally posted by jelgate View PostWhere are your priorities, you hazmot.
Originally posted by jelgate View PostDidn't Stargate do something like that to disguise British Columbia forests?Heightmeyer's Lemming -- still the coolest Lemming of the forum
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@ Bluemeany and Falcon Horus with respect to the blue flora, they could've actually used an artificial plant/flower and just added it into the typical plant life around the set where they were filming. That may have been an easier way to do it rather than spray paint them. I think they obviously used colored lighting alot as well to help change the color of things.Originally posted by jelgateThis brings much pain but SQ is right
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Originally posted by squirrely1 View Post@ Bluemeany and Falcon Horus with respect to the blue flora, they could've actually used an artificial plant/flower and just added it into the typical plant life around the set where they were filming. That may have been an easier way to do it rather than spray paint them. I think they obviously used colored lighting alot as well to help change the color of things.
The blue vegetation was achieved by grading the film in post production. The plants were not painted. This episode was filmed at the same time as ‘I E.T.’.
Backstage: During the scene when D’Argo stuns Aeryn, you get a good look at the green contact lenses that were dropped after Anthony Simcoe got makeup removal fluid in his eyes and had to be rushed to hospital with a damaged cornea; the doctor forbade him to wear lenses for six months afterwards, hence his eyes changing from green to normal during the first four episodes depending on whether a scene was filmed before or after the accident.Heightmeyer's Lemming -- still the coolest Lemming of the forum
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