I also had problems with Black man serving in the army and being the 'leader' of Hooverville, 1930 was only 65 years after the civil war ended and yes I know New York is in the North but attitudes hadn't changed that far that quickly, surely?
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I thought they used the builder guy because he thinks like a Dalek.
Did anyone else pick up on the echo between the Daleks and the Doctor? In the scene where the Dalek's looking out over the city, it makes some complaint about how humanity always survives while the Daleks suffer (or something to that effect.
In a later scene the Doctor vents about how the Daleks always survive while he's left with nothing.
Thought it was interesting how they see things.
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I think this whole story arc hinges on whatever the fudge the Daleks are doing with The Empire State Building. If it turns out to be some death ray that turns everyone into those really suave pin-stripe suited weirdos then it would be absolutely fabulous! But ridiculous. I hope there's some more depth to it than that.
I agree with whoever said that the Dalek dialogue was lacking. It was just generic bad-guy talk. And not even particularly menacing at that.
(I apologise about the fashion comment(s), but I couldn't resist a couple of those gags. Come on, an alien cyclops... in a suit? Only in Doctor Who.)
Daleks in Manhattan, Evolution of the Daleks... The Daleks Wear Prada?Last edited by Anubis69; 23 April 2007, 08:13 AM.
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I think part of the problem with the episode was the fact that they put the Daleks in the preview of the episode. It would have been far more interesting to keep them as a suprise as there didn't really seem to be much in the episode that had not been shown in the preview.
It had some good moments, but was the first episode this season that I didn't want to watch again, having seen it for the first time.
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Originally posted by ShadowMaat View PostI thought they used the builder guy because he thinks like a Dalek.
Did anyone else pick up on the echo between the Daleks and the Doctor? In the scene where the Dalek's looking out over the city, it makes some complaint about how humanity always survives while the Daleks suffer (or something to that effect.
In a later scene the Doctor vents about how the Daleks always survive while he's left with nothing.
Thought it was interesting how they see things.Pinky, are you thinking what I'm thinking?
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Originally posted by Jenn Calaelen View PostI think part of the problem with the episode was the fact that they put the Daleks in the preview of the episode.sigpic"Ce qui ressemble a l'amour est toujours de l'amour." - Tristan Bernard
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Originally posted by Commander Ivanova View PostThe title was a bit of a giveaway too, LOL, does what it says on the tin!
And back to the guy (the builder guy) being used. I understand the base reason being he has a ruthless streak (and as I said power, greed and all that) but The Doctor said it himself The Daleks are intelligent, they should (if only to make them more menacing) be smart enough to go on more then just a "rant" from a human. It may have been why they used him but it makes The Daleks look stupid and impulsive which I don't think they are.
If they had added a line about needing to do this now, because "such and such" a time was coming (made it super urgent) then I could buy it, but other then the usual urgency of these things it seemed like the same old same old.
*yes I know the tower thing needed to be completed urgently but we get no indication that they both linked*
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I thought this was a real mix of good and bad. It semed very jumbled. The script and the look of the piece were fine, and the concept of a human-dalek hybrid is a great next step for the pepperpots, but somehow the episode just didn't seem right.
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Originally posted by Radio TimesHelen Raynor... was given this shopping list by Davies: "New York 1030s, Pig Men, sewers, showgirls, the empire State Building - and Daleks."
And although this 'evolution' is a good idea for how to use the Daleks, they are definitely getting overused.
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It sounded to me tho as if that's the way RTD dopes with all the writers who aren't him - DW doesn't have a regular writing staff (other than RTD), does it?
I think it's uncommon for television but common for Doctor who.Pinky, are you thinking what I'm thinking?
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My Theory;
Sek activates the Dalekeium enhanced tower, turning several humans into Huleks, and flees into time to be encountered next series.
They always survive afterall, and Three Daleks and a Hulek isn't really going to be doing too much damage by themselves...
Well okay, the Emperor messed thing's up nicely, but Doomsday doesn't count as they had the Prison ship there.
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The americans sounded very funny *giggles* and I think I might be the only on ehow thought it but didn't the human darlek look like davi jones out pirates of the caribeen.
It isn't the best darlek storyline but I have to say it was a very well written episode"Carter I Can See My House From Here"
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