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    #31
    Originally posted by somedude
    Hopefully Billy's a cylon....
    I think he mentioned that he his parents moved to Picon to be closer to his sisters and their kids. So unless they programed that info into him, I don't think he's a cilon.

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      #32
      Well, I'm sure Sharon "remembered" her family, too. Not necessarily indicative.

      Nah, I think it's just another case of a nice guy getting his guts ripped out by an insensitive girl who can't decide what she wants.

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        #33
        I enjoyed seeing the civilian side of the fleet (seamy as it was), but was surprised and a little baffled by some of the other choices made by the writers/directors:

        --Would not have picked Apollo as the Cloud Nine Regular, helping out one of the prostitutes with her kid. When does a CAG have time for that, plus flirting with Dee?

        --Why did they keep showing us the girlfriend in the same shot so many times? This is a character that is supposed to be dead, so why do we need to have so many closeups of her face and little dialog? It didn't clarify what the relationship was between the two (as shown by the different ways in which watchers have interpreted it) or explain why he would feel so guilty (after all, most of the people Apollo knew are now dead, not just the girlfriend).

        I hope all the face time doesn't means she will reappear and we have another Cylon momma. That would be an awful plot development.

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          #34
          She'll reappear just after Lee declares his love for Kara and that'll throw a monkey wrench into everything. Eventually, though, Lee will choose Kara and Gratuitous Ex-Girlfriend willl fade back into non-existence.

          Oh wait, that's what STARGATE would do. Hopefully, BSG will think more intelligently than that.

          She'll reappear, sans kid, throw the proverbial monkey wrench into the works and make for lots of angsting for Lee, but he'll be spared the agony of having to make a decision by her sudden and unexpected death, catapulting him into yet more angst, wherein he tries to seek solace in the arms of Kara.

          Not MUCH better than SG-1, I admit...

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            #35
            I can't believe Dee was about to step out on Billy. They are dating, right? I was thoroughly satisfied with the episode. Can't wait for next week's!

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              #36
              Originally posted by HarshCritic
              I can't believe Dee was about to step out on Billy. They are dating, right? I was thoroughly satisfied with the episode. Can't wait for next week's!
              Well, she made a play for Lee and when he backed off, she went after Random Dude in the gym, so I'm thinking maybe she and Billy aren't together anymore. Which is too bad, because that was one ship I could really support.

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                #37
                I was sad they let the black market continue, but I know what he was thinking, the problem is it may come back to bite him.
                Tis No Fool to lose what He can not keep, To gain what he will never Lose

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                  #38
                  What I liked best about this episode was the groundwork it laid for the upcoming shift in political alliances.

                  NOTE: The following is speculation, I don't know any of this is going to happen so I'm not going to bother with spoiler tags.

                  It's pretty clear that the Roslin/Baltar union is about to go its seperate ways, and Baltar has already made in-roads with a powerful political force... The Peace Movement. If this group can get the right kind of boost it could propel Baltar to the Presidency. The only way Roslin could counter that kind of political challenge would be to... team up with Zarek. The dilemma will be in finding the right sort of check to keep Zarek from killing Roslin once he becomes VP.

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                    #39
                    I would agree with most posts that last nights episode wasn't the best ever but it certainly was not the worst. I like the character development with Lee and am looking forward to next week with Starbuck. I would like to see a little more deviousness out of Baltar though. I really like all the characters and can't wait each week for more.
                    -Hamy Seven

                    Col. O'Neill: "Jaffa jokes? Let's hear one of them."

                    Teal'c: "I shall attempt to translate one O'Neill. A serpent guard, a Horus guard, and a Setesh guard meet on a neutral planet. It is a tense moment. The serpent guard's eyes glow. The Horus guard's beak glistens. The Setesh guard's...nose drips." [Teal'c bursts into laughter]

                    3x02 Seth

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                      #40
                      Originally posted by ShadowMaat
                      Well, she made a play for Lee and when he backed off, she went after Random Dude in the gym, so I'm thinking maybe she and Billy aren't together anymore. Which is too bad, because that was one ship I could really support.
                      Wait! I thought at the end when Dee was doing crunches the guy holding her feet was Billy? And she popped up for a smooch before secretly looking all angsty at Apollo? Did I see it wrong and it really was a random guy?

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                        #41
                        Originally posted by ToasterOnFire
                        Wait! I thought at the end when Dee was doing crunches the guy holding her feet was Billy? And she popped up for a smooch before secretly looking all angsty at Apollo? Did I see it wrong and it really was a random guy?
                        It sure looked like Billy to me. It is the first time I remember him without the tie. Maybe that is what is throwing everyone off?
                        -Hamy Seven

                        Col. O'Neill: "Jaffa jokes? Let's hear one of them."

                        Teal'c: "I shall attempt to translate one O'Neill. A serpent guard, a Horus guard, and a Setesh guard meet on a neutral planet. It is a tense moment. The serpent guard's eyes glow. The Horus guard's beak glistens. The Setesh guard's...nose drips." [Teal'c bursts into laughter]

                        3x02 Seth

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                          #42
                          LOL! Okay, maybe it WAS Billy, then. It did cross my mind, but the hair looked different and he seemed bulkier. But like I said, I absolutely SUCK at recognizing people. Met Bruce Willis once without even knowing it.

                          Actually, I dunno if that makes it any better. She makes a play for Lee, loses, so goes back to Billy? That isn't too cool, either.

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                            #43
                            Originally posted by Hamyseven
                            I would agree with most posts that last nights episode wasn't the best ever but it certainly was not the worst. I like the character development with Lee and am looking forward to next week with Starbuck. I would like to see a little more deviousness out of Baltar though. I really like all the characters and can't wait each week for more.
                            I also enjoy the character development with Lee and hope they do more with other characters.

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                              #44
                              The guy in the gymn was Billy... I'm pretty sure of it...

                              That whole Lee/Dee thing was the most contrived romantic angle since Sam and Jack, in an otherwise compelling episode. Yes, there were some hints of it in an earlier episode but it hasn't really been built on enough. And frankly speaking (with no offence to the actors involved) Lee and Dee have as much chemistry as myself and a piece of mouldy cheese.

                              I liked this episode more than I have the last two. I found the last two somewhat gimmicky with lots of twists and ex deus machinas. I like BSG best when they work the characters because when they do that, the storytelling pretty much takes care of itself.
                              The thing that interests me about Lee is how much people underestimate him... every single time. It started with Bastille Day and I think that aspect has been consistently built on. I was interested to see that Lee has become a walking death wish and that makes him inherently dangerous. Still he hasn't completely lost his sense of rightness. I'm glad to see the writers pushing the envelope with him and I'm also pleasantly surprised to see how understanding his father has become of him. Knowing when the back off and when to drop hints of concern.

                              The more startling thing about BSG is that while everyone around him is getting darker and more edgy, Adama is going the opposite direction. He is becoming more understanding and for want of a better word, softer. This is why I think he is my favourite character. He has looked adversity in the eye and has overcome it and come out of it with greater wisdom.

                              I don't think Kara belonged in this episode and I think it worked well not having her in it. We really needed a Lee centric episode to remind me why I like him. Jamie Bamber is a terrific actor and was able to hold it together on his own. *Sigh* So much angst...
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                              "When you have eliminated the impossible, whatever remains, however improbable, must be the truth"

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                                #45
                                No show is perfect, tonight is an example. If I had to sum it up in one word, "WEAK" BSG is a great show but every show has an episode not as good as the others. This was all to be expected since the whole pegasus thing happened.

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                                Lee - going to an escort? it felt too contrived. too many things just came out of no where that it felt like the writers just wanted to spice things up with lee, to try to make him not so goody good as he appears to be, which to me didn't quite hit the mark.

                                also dee? during the episode when they were "wrestling" i thought that too came way out of no where. i thought things were good with her and billy, esp after "valley of darkness" ? and poor billy, i feel bad for the guy now. i wonder how he would react to find out that the other day dee was practically throwing herself to lee and the next day all kissy in the gym.

                                and how the hell did the pegasus get up in this black market? now it seems as if they're speeding up time here while before it felt like each episode only had a day or 2 pass.

                                i don't understand how adama agreed to lee's idea to keep the black market running.

                                not the best episode but some things managed to move forward espically with baltar and roslin. zarek seems to always be somewhere in the background. the head of the peace group was in that bar, is there a connection between his group and the blackmarket ? i smell another cylon in the midst pulling the strings.

                                i get the feeling that the cylons maybe playing a little physcological game withg the humans, like how scientists study animal behavior or something.

                                i'm not looking forward to next week's. it seems like a repeat of tonight but with starbuck. also didn't kat just learn to fly? and now she's some hot shot ?

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