Post a pet peeve.

[BruTak]

Maybe I'm missing something here. But when I was a kid, back in the 70s, measles wasn't all that big a deal.

You caught measles, all it meant was a week or so off school until the spots cleared up.

[jelgate]

You can definitely die from measles. The mortality rate I think is something like 5%. It's like the flu. People do die from it but usually only the very young or very old

[BruTak]

Yeah, everybody's different I suppose.

I was around 7 or so when I had measles, maybe 10 when I had Rubella (German measles we called it in those days), and 17 when I got chicken pox.

I remember getting the polio vaccine (on a lump of sugar), and the BSG (TB vaccine) when I was a kid.

[mad_gater]

Agree with you I do.



Umm.. No. While it is your right to be stupid when it comes to raising your own kids, you do not have the right to risk infecting other people's kids. I don't care what form you have, if your kids haven't been vaccinated, they shouldn't be allowed in public schools. And legal penalties for not sending your kids to school should be applied.

I don't think the state has the right to directly force parents to vaccinate against their beliefs. But it does have the right to protect other kids.

actually as long as all the rest of the kids in the school in question have been properly vaccinated it would seem that the only danger anti-vaxxers pose is to themselves....maybe all the anti-vaxxers will kill themselves off by simple fact of a deadly disease infecting their own unvaccinated bodies that their essential oils and other homeopathic remedies don't have a prayer of killing off...meanwhile all of us sane vaccinated people can rest relatively easy

[Chaka-Z0]

actually as long as all the rest of the kids in the school in question have been properly vaccinated it would seem that the only danger anti-vaxxers pose is to themselves....maybe all the anti-vaxxers will kill themselves off by simple fact of a deadly disease infecting their own unvaccinated bodies that their essential oils and other homeopathic remedies don't have a prayer of killing off...meanwhile all of us sane vaccinated people can rest relatively easy

That is a common misconception / myth about anti-vaxxers. They are a danger to other kids for a multitude of reasons.

Mainly:

1- Some kids are too young to be vaccinated for certain illnesses
2- Their immune systems are needlessly exposed to, for instance, measles
3- Strains can mutate and vaccines become ineffective
4- Some kids have immune system problems, which means they can still contract illnesses
5- It breaks off the whole concept of herd immunity
6- There is absolutely no logical reason not to vaccinate your kid
7- The fact that certain people contract these old diseases means the diseases themselves will never be completely eradicated (technically virus and diseases don't ''Die'' but pretty much disappear if everybody is vaccinated)

https://www.verywellhealth.com/who-i...d-kids-2634420

[Annoyed]

actually as long as all the rest of the kids in the school in question have been properly vaccinated it would seem that the only danger anti-vaxxers pose is to themselves....maybe all the anti-vaxxers will kill themselves off by simple fact of a deadly disease infecting their own unvaccinated bodies that their essential oils and other homeopathic remedies don't have a prayer of killing off...meanwhile all of us sane vaccinated people can rest relatively easy

Except that vaccines, even when properly applied are not 100% effective. So there is no justification for allowing an unvaccinated kid to to present the risk of spreading a disease.

[Gatefan1976]

Agree with you I do.



Umm.. No. While it is your right to be stupid when it comes to raising your own kids, you do not have the right to risk infecting other people's kids. I don't care what form you have, if your kids haven't been vaccinated, they shouldn't be allowed in public schools. And legal penalties for not sending your kids to school should be applied.

Ya can't read, can you?

I don't think the state has the right to directly force parents to vaccinate against their beliefs. But it does have the right to protect other kids.

Umm, so what would be your resolution to this?

[Annoyed]

Ya can't read, can you?

Umm, so what would be your resolution to this?

Quite simple. The state can't force vaccination. But it can require them to be enrolled in school. So, the parents get a ride till age 5 (required Kindergarten in the U.S.) Once age 5, the child is required to attend school where vaccination is required. (or be home schooled, and there are stiff requirements for that).
Unless home schooled, the child has to register. And therefore has to be vaccinated. And the parents can be legally penalized if they don't register.

Problem solved.

[Gatefan1976]

Quite simple. The state can't force vaccination. But it can require them to be enrolled in school. So, the parents get a ride till age 5 (required Kindergarten in the U.S.) Once age 5, the child is required to attend school where vaccination is required. (or be home schooled, and there are stiff requirements for that).
Unless home schooled, the child has to register. And therefore has to be vaccinated. And the parents can be legally penalized if they don't register.

Problem solved.

You are still forcing a choice, either do what the state wants, or don't get the benefit of the state.

[Annoyed]

You are still forcing a choice, either do what the state wants, or don't get the benefit of the state.

But it is being done in a way which is legal. I don't think you could get a law mandating vaccination to pass constitutional muster. But requiring vaccination to attend public schools will, as the state has a legitimate overriding interest in protecting public health.

[BruTak]

And to return to the topic at hand, fun though this digression has been.

Shortly before Christmas, I happened across a website where I could read comics for free. Not just the mainstream Marvel and DC superhero stuff, but obscure indie titles from Image, IDW, Dark Horse and so on.

I get that some of the things I'm reading are ongoing titles and that the latest issue hasn't been uploaded yet ("Saga" by Brian K. Vaughn and Fiona Staples for example), but even so, some of the mini-series just don't seem to go anywhere, or the apparent conclusion leaves you thinking "WTF was that all about?"

[BruTak]

New pet peeve.

There are a great many pubs/bars in central Glasgow in which one could potentially host a fan meeting.

Why then would the person organising it pick one that's at least a twenty five minute walk away from the city centre, and nearly fifteen minutes by bus?

[Laxian of Earth]

Due to lines, etc.. I don't think there is any such thing as fast food anymore. The operators of these restaurants locate them in high traffic areas. It generally takes 20 minutes to get into the drive thru, wait for the cars ahead of you, place your order and then wait for and get the food.

20 minutes is NOT fast food. Most folks only get 1/2 hour for lunch.

US, hm? Don't know why you guys let your employers get away with treating you like garbage ("Human material")...seriously, in Germany it's at least 1 hour for lunch-break (sometimes it's more) and you have shorter breaks during work, too! Not to mention payed vacation-time (by law!), payed sick-leave, mandatory healthcare etc. etc.

Pet peeve? Politicians who think they can ignore people (Article 13 in the EU for example! They are trying to push this through despite the fact that a majority of people don't want it!)!

ps: Hope for you that Bernie wins 2020 (he's about your only chance of becoming a true modern nation! With single-payer healthcare, free college etc.!)

[Falcon Horus]

As the peeve continues..
Today, I sent an email to StargateCommand asking about the Founders Patch. I received a response with an excuse that there were problems with the previous manufacturer and now a new manufacturer is making the patches. We will be updated soon concerning delivery.

As far as I can tell from the multitude of posts on the message feed complaining about the lack of patches, or communication (which they lack in general), they promised to send them out near the end of the March.

Now, they didn't specify the year... so... you know.

[Princess Awinita]

MEMO: NEVER anger a writer, never become their enemy; because they have tools they can use for revenge.

I will not detail it, I will simply say I am rather unhappy right now