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Originally posted by Goose View PostI believe that capital punishment is wrong in each and every single instance it is used for, so I see no difference in campaigning to save the life of someone who has murdered 10 people, or someone who may or may not be guilty. Neither deserves to die.sigpic
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Originally posted by Gatefan1976 View PostState sanctioned executions remove one of our apparently most "sacred rights", the right to life.
One life for six. I understand his death won't bring them back but it's not like the state is committing a greater crime.sigpic
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Originally posted by Gen. Chris View PostPerhaps, but so do the people who are sentenced to die. It wouldn't be used if people didn't commit crimes worthy of the punishment.
One life for six. I understand his death won't bring them back but it's not like the state is committing a greater crime.
I can understand your desire to remove him from the world, but what real good does it do?sigpicALL THANKS TO THE WONDERFUL CREATOR OF THIS SIG GO TO R.I.G.A lie is just a truth that hasn't gone through conversion therapy yetThe truth isn't the truth
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Originally posted by Gen. Chris View PostOne life for six. I understand his death won't bring them back but it's not like the state is committing a greater crime.
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Originally posted by Goose View PostI believe that capital punishment is wrong in each and every single instance it is used for, so I see no difference in campaigning to save the life of someone who has murdered 10 people, or someone who may or may not be guilty. Neither deserves to die.
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Originally posted by SoulReaver View Postah but one of the two deserves to be saved more than the other
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Originally posted by Goose View PostWhy? Neither person deserves to be executed.Originally posted by SoulReaver View Postone of the two deserves to be saved more than the other
if you had to choose between saving a real killer such as the one here, or saving a murder convict who's guilty of a "lesser" crime and/or who may even be innocent, if you had to save only one of these two, you saying you would hesitate?
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Originally posted by SoulReaver View Postbut I didn't say that, I said: not quite the same thing
if you had to choose between saving a real killer such as the one here, or saving a murder convict who's guilty of a "lesser" crime and/or who may even be innocent, if you had to save only one of these two, you saying you would hesitate?
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Originally posted by SoulReaver View Post
alrite then what about self-defense - right or wrong?
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Originally posted by Goose View PostIf it comes down to only two alternatives, either the victim or the attacker dies, then it's morally justifiable to kill the aggressor.
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Originally posted by SoulReaver View Postah but did you not say that no one deserves death? yet in defending yourself, you are clearly choosing your life over the attacker's. what gives you that right, if all lives are equal?
I can guess what you're about to say next, but let me just say this: such an occurrence is extremely rare, and doesn't provide for anything like the death penalty, or for shooting someone breaking into your property. I can be all philosophical about morality and the ethics of killing an attacker or not, but realistically speaking, if your life is about to be taken, then you're going to have an over-encompassing urge to preserve your life. It's basic, animalistic instinct, and one which you cannot philosophy away. Capital punishment, however, isn't a decision you have to make in a split-second.
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Originally posted by Goose View PostYou're right, I shouldn't have said that in absolutely all cases it's wrong to deprive someone of their life. However, I still think that all life is equal, but if you're in a situation where there really is absolutely no other possibility to save your own life than to take the life of someone determined to take your life, then you are within your moral right to take the life of the aggressor. Because, let's face it, no one would decide that, "oh, it's morally wrong to kill the person who's about to kill me, so why not let him kill me". We're human, and we don't think that way.
I can guess what you're about to say next, but let me just say this: such an occurrence is extremely rare, and doesn't provide for anything like the death penalty, or for shooting someone breaking into your property. I can be all philosophical about morality and the ethics of killing an attacker or not, but realistically speaking, if your life is about to be taken, then you're going to have an over-encompassing urge to preserve your life. It's basic, animalistic instinct, and one which you cannot philosophy away. Capital punishment, however, isn't a decision you have to make in a split-second.
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