The Political Discussion Thread

[Annoyed]

And those weapons don't benefit the military personnel who use them? I would prefer that the military spend money rather than soldier's lives, and much of the cost of weaponry these days is to make things that enhance the survivability for soldiers.

Originally Posted by Annoyed
I would prefer that the military spend money

see? usually you're against government, but you can support (corporate) welfare when you want

Please don't twist my words by quoting half of them.

Thank you.

[SoulReaver]

Please don't twist my words by quoting half of them.

Thank you.

word, no twisting just quoting the bottomline :|

[jelgate]

It's a case of practical, real world vs theoretical universe. Absolutely, there are many conditions which are "invisible", but still debilitating. In an ideal, theoretical universe, people could be trusted to honor the "rules" and not take the things without a legitimate need for them.

But in the real world we live in, people will abuse anything they can get their hands on. So some sort of enforcement is required. Yes, it would suck to have to go to the CS desk and show an ID to get a cart, but would that suck worse than there being no carts available because joyriders have got half the store's carts?

Myself, I would prefer having to show an ID to get one, rather than there being none available 'cause the store is afraid to offend or aggravate legitimate users.

You have no grasp of PR do you?

[Annoyed]

I just don't see a need for PR. Sugar coating unpleasant business doesn't help anyone. Whatever a situation is, it's still the same no matter how you spin it.

[jelgate]

It has an effect on profits

[Womble]

hoho why ain't that a surprise
(another curious thing is why do people call Putin a "religious man" when he's a Stalin fan?)

I'm not aware of Puting being called a religious man. He may give lip service to Orthodox Christianity as a matter of appealing to traditionalism and demonstrating his "Russian-ness", but he makes it a point to stay above categorizing. He isn't even formally a member of his own political party.

Russian VOYENTORG shops - government-run military surplus store network - is selling T-shirts with pro-Assad slogans. Apparently they sell well.

[Annoyed]

It has an effect on profits

Anyone with the brains God promised a doorknob can see through "corporatese" as I call it. Their attempts to claim that black is white and night is day don't buy them much, except to destroy their credibility. In the long run, I think that BS'ing your way through a situation only causes harm.

[jelgate]

You'd be wrong

[Falcon Horus]

You know gun control is something that can never ever be discussed.. Ever!!

Oh oops... sorry, I clearly forgot.

[garhkal]

It's a case of practical, real world vs theoretical universe. Absolutely, there are many conditions which are "invisible", but still debilitating. In an ideal, theoretical universe, people could be trusted to honor the "rules" and not take the things without a legitimate need for them.

But in the real world we live in, people will abuse anything they can get their hands on. So some sort of enforcement is required. Yes, it would suck to have to go to the CS desk and show an ID to get a cart, but would that suck worse than there being no carts available because joyriders have got half the store's carts?

Myself, I would prefer having to show an ID to get one, rather than there being none available 'cause the store is afraid to offend or aggravate legitimate users.

Well said Annoyed. BUT these days, it seems its UN-PC to even mention stuff like that.

Heck on another site where i have mentioned this same situation most EVERYONE there is on my case for "Daring to even ask someone how long they will be, no matter who else asked me to get that info"..

[Falcon Horus]

Victims they want to be, but restraint they surely do not know either:

Eritrean man killed, brutalized when Bedouin shoots Israeli security forces

[Coco Pops]

Does everyone have to have a gun in Sweden? What's their stats on gun deaths?

[Coco Pops]

Hey if Putin and allies really do get rid of ISIS in Syria would that make the Western nations over there look kind of foolish?

[SoulReaver]

Hey if Putin and allies really do get rid of ISIS in Syria would that make the Western nations over there look kind of foolish?

it would but they won't so the question's moot

[Falcon Horus]

Hey if Putin and allies really do get rid of ISIS in Syria would that make the Western nations over there look kind of foolish?

Pigs will fly when they do... all they care about are the anti-Assad people, which do include IS but it's not their main concern.

Does everyone have to have a gun in Sweden? What's their stats on gun deaths?

Sweden — Gun Facts, Figures and the Law

Gun deaths in 2010 stood at 138.
Suicide by gun at 211 (2010).

Any particular reason you wish to know?