The Political Discussion Thread

[SoulReaver]

http://news.nationalpost.com/2014/10...global-outcry/

considering the spaniards' history & how they treated animals (bullfighting) humans, this ain't so surprising : the conquistadors were even worse than the aztecs & mayans

[Falcon Horus]

The Aztecs and Mayans sacrificed humans to the gods.

True, it was a great honor to be chosen to be sacrificed but nonetheless they sacrificed humans.

[jelgate]

The Aztecs and Mayans sacrificed humans to the gods.

True, it was a great honor to be chosen to be sacrificed but nonetheless they sacrificed humans.

Considering some of the scum that exist today, is it really that bad of an idea?

[SoulReaver]

The Aztecs and Mayans sacrificed humans to the gods.

bummer, you're right - the conquistadors didn't sacrifice humans, merely tortured & executed them w/o trial (and for just 1 god). my bad

[Gatefan1976]

Considering some of the scum that exist today, is it really that bad of an idea?

They wouldn't do it willingly Jel, which sorta defeats the purpose of a sacrifice.

[jelgate]

They wouldn't do it willingly Jel, which sorta defeats the purpose of a sacrifice.

Then we do it the Socrates way

[KEK]

http://news.nationalpost.com/2014/10...global-outcry/

considering the spaniards' history & how they treated animals (bullfighting) humans, this ain't so surprising : the conquistadors were even worse than the aztecs & mayans

I think euthanizing a dog with Ebola is common sense as much as anything. It would be a massive national health risk to keep it alive.

[Coco Pops]

What aout euthanasia as a political issue?

Shouldn't people have the right to choose the time that they die?

There was and still is a story making the rounds on Facebook of a young girl in her 20s with terminal brain cancer. She's literally got at the most a year to live and wants to choose the time she dies rather then become a vegetable when the cancer finally takes hold.

I think she should be given the choice, and so should everyone else who feels the same if they are ill and suffering.

[Womble]

What aout euthanasia as a political issue?

Shouldn't people have the right to choose the time that they die?

There was and still is a story making the rounds on Facebook of a young girl in her 20s with terminal brain cancer. She's literally got at the most a year to live and wants to choose the time she dies rather then become a vegetable when the cancer finally takes hold.

I think she should be given the choice, and so should everyone else who feels the same if they are ill and suffering.

Should she kill herself by herself, or should medical professionals be required to assist her in killing herself? Should these medical professionals have the right to refuse to assist her in killing herself?

And what about those who cannot decide for themselves and would have others decide whether they should live or die?

Groningen Protocol.

[Coco Pops]

Should she kill herself by herself, or should medical professionals be required to assist her in killing herself? Should these medical professionals have the right to refuse to assist her in killing herself?

And what about those who cannot decide for themselves and would have others decide whether they should live or die?

Groningen Protocol.

A) She should have the choice to do that if she wishes......

B) She should be allowed to seek medical professionals who are comfortable with this issue to assist her. Why pressure a doctor who isn't willing when you can find one that does understand these issues, and is willing to help.

C) Well of course if someone isn't competent to make that choice themselves they should not be assisted in this kind of endeavour...... Neither should any family member be allowed to choose for them..

[SoulReaver]

I think euthanizing a dog with Ebola is common sense as much as anything. It would be a massive national health risk to keep it alive.

point is how about a bloody blood test first to see if it has the virus. they could've at least quarantined him

[SoulReaver]

Shouldn't people have the right to choose the time that they die?

affirmative
especially so in a country with the death penalty

Should she kill herself by herself

if she can

or should medical professionals be required to assist her in killing herself?

if she can't

Should these medical professionals have the right to refuse to assist her in killing herself?

definitely (can't force someone to kill someone else)

And what about those who cannot decide for themselves and would have others decide whether they should live or die?

gray area
extreme scenario: "locked-in syndrome" (conceivably some people even in that situation still wish to live, go figure)

better abstain cf. precautionary principle
at least until some communication can be established with patient

[Gatefan1976]

Should she kill herself by herself,

If it is an option, sure.

or should medical professionals be required to assist her in killing herself?

No.

Should these medical professionals have the right to refuse to assist her in killing herself?

Sure, they should also not be the only ones to be able to assist if requested.

And what about those who cannot decide for themselves and would have others decide whether they should live or die?

It's called a will, investigate it.

[Coco Pops]

OK watching news footage of the whole ISIS thingy.... This is like a circus with the US and allies bombing stuff and hoping that will fix things..

But Turkey, why are they parking their tanks on the border and doing nothing? Is that just in case ISIS try hopping across into Turkey?

[pookey]

And what about those who cannot decide for themselves and would have others decide whether they should live or die?
We had a family who said that they would not want their father resusitated if he had a heart attack, we asked the father himself and he said yes, he would like to be resusitated, gotta watch some families
And i believe she should decide if she should live or die, and if she can find a doctor to help her then all the better for her.
And i can imagine that now someone religious is going to come on an lambast us all for agreeing to this assisted suicide. But you have to ask yourself, what if it was you, or someone you loved.