The Political Discussion Thread

[Annoyed]

?you wanted them born make up your mind

Abortion has nothing to do with this. But we do know what causes pregnancy, and how to not become pregnant, don't we?
And even better, not getting pregnant is completely free.

[SoulReaver]

Abortion has nothing to do with this. But we do know what causes pregnancy, and how to not become pregnant, don't we?
And even better, not getting pregnant is completely free.

embryos dont need bread or board so at that point they're no burden to you
but you want them to become a burden

[Annoyed]

embryos dont need bread or board so at that point they're no burden to you
but you want them to become a burden

No, embryos grow into babies. If you can't afford them, don't create embryos. How simple is that? And more importantly, why is something so simple so hard to understand?

[SoulReaver]

No, embryos grow into babies. If you can't afford them, don't create embryos. How simple is that? And more importantly, why is something so simple so hard to understand?

dat a good start! you admit they're not babies
at that point they can still be prevented from becoming the leeches you so despise - why is something so simple so hard to understand?

[Annoyed]

dat a good start! you admit they're not babies
at that point they can still be prevented from becoming the leeches you so despise - why is something so simple so hard to understand?

They are Human beings from the point of conception forward.
Oh, and you are aware that in some of the crazier places are already allowing live birth abortions? You can't even make that illegitimate argument for those cases.

[jelgate]

Because it's not simple. That is problem with politics the American 2 party system especially. Abortion is not automatically right or wrong. The context of the pregnancy matters. It's not always a woman being careless. At the same time we shouldn't allow an abortion just because people weren't thinking.

[SoulReaver]

They are Human beings from the point of conception forward.

yet a few posts ago you essentially said they cease to be human beings after they're born

Oh, and you are aware that in some of the crazier places are already allowing live birth abortions? You can't even make that illegitimate argument for those cases.

lol dat dodge

[Chaka-Z0]

So is the EC in your limited vision.
The EC, as you view it is socialism to the max.

This is so true it hurts to read.

Annoyed you realize by advocating support and giving voices to a proportionally lower quadrant of the population you are doing a Bernie?

That's the same than wanting to help minorities or support the weak, so you're a socialist. Welcome to our family Comrade!
*pops out a basic, unlabeled vodka bottle, available to all brothers of the motherland*

[Annoyed]

This is so true it hurts to read.

Annoyed you realize by advocating support and giving voices to a proportionally lower quadrant of the population you are doing a Bernie?

That's the same than wanting to help minorities or support the weak, so you're a socialist. Welcome to our family Comrade!
*pops out a basic, unlabeled vodka bottle, available to all brothers of the motherland*

Who the hell wants Vodka? Or Rum for that matter.

More seriously, the needs of a rural area are a lot different from the needs of congested urban area. Why shouldn't the people in the rural area have a voice?

[Chaka-Z0]

Who the hell wants Vodka? Or Rum for that matter.

More seriously, the needs of a rural area are a lot different from the needs of congested urban area. Why shouldn't the people in the rural area have a voice?

More seriously, the needs of a less-wealthy person are a lot different from the needs of wealthy / middle-class individuals. Why shouldn't the less-wealthy people have a voice?

Don't mean to be a parrot here, but think about it a little, it is exactly the same thing. GF was spot on on this one.

[SoulReaver]

Why shouldn't the people in the rural area have a voice?

it's not about the people that's what you still don't get

commie

[Annoyed]

Because it's not simple. That is problem with politics the American 2 party system especially. Abortion is not automatically right or wrong. The context of the pregnancy matters. It's not always a woman being careless. At the same time we shouldn't allow an abortion just because people weren't thinking.

Although I don't like the idea, I can at least understand the motivation in cases of rape/etc. In other cases, where it's just not thinking, as you put it, I can't excuse it.

[SoulReaver]

In other cases, where it's just not thinking, as you put it, I can't excuse it.

good since the leeches they'll become happen to be the same babies who were born in the first place then put your money where your mouth is & pay for them "womb to tomb"

and if they become terrorists/killers remember: continue to fight for their life (no execution)

[Annoyed]

good since the leeches they'll become happen to be the same babies who were born in the first place then put your money where your mouth is & pay for them "womb to tomb"

and if they become terrorists/killers remember: continue to fight for their life (no execution)

You still don't grasp the simple concept of keeping your pants on, do you?

And the unborn are innocent. Not true of criminals.

[Chaka-Z0]

You still don't grasp the simple concept of keeping your pants on, do you?

Not so easy to do when AOC runs for POTUS.

And the unborn are innocent. Not true of criminals.

Good luck proving in a court of law that John Ahmed Smith committed terrorist acts in Syria, it's not like there were cops going around taking notes. That's the big issue here. But they got to be judged somehow, what's to do about that?