The Political Discussion Thread

[Chaka-Z0]

You've cut out a crucial piece of context - "Electricity is expensive when used for heating. It's t the other way round for driving."

There are cheaper alternatives than electricity for heating your house. It doesn't follow that electric cars, which aren't houses, are somehow useless in cold climates.

You know what electric car does better than a gasoline one in cold climate? START.

You know which country has the fastest rate of electric vehicle adoption in the world? Norway. One out of each 3 vehicles sold in the Norwegian market is all-electric.

Can confirm this is true, we've got Russian-grade winters here in Canada and they do start on a whim.

[Annoyed]

Define this ''main reason'' - Acting like a dictator?

No, putting a stop to illegal immigration was one of his main campaign planks.

[Chaka-Z0]

No, putting a stop to illegal immigration was one of his main campaign planks.

How's that relevant to my post you quoted?

[Annoyed]

How's that relevant to my post you quoted?

Well, you seem to think the main reason was acting like a dictator.

[jelgate]

No, putting a stop to illegal immigration was one of his main campaign planks.

Ciricular argument. The wall still won't achieve this

[Annoyed]

You've cut out a crucial piece of context - "Electricity is expensive when used for heating. It's t the other way round for driving."

There are cheaper alternatives than electricity for heating your house. It doesn't follow that electric cars, which aren't houses, are somehow useless in cold climates.

You know what electric car does better than a gasoline one in cold climate? START.

You know which country has the fastest rate of electric vehicle adoption in the world? Norway. One out of each 3 vehicles sold in the Norwegian market is all-electric.

House or car, you get heat from electricity in one of two ways, which really boil down to one, one of which is intentional and the other is not (waste).
You pass electricity through something which presents resistance to the flow of electricity, and that generates heat.
If it's a heating element, either car or home, it's not waste. But is expensive. If it's passed through a load and that generates heat, then it's waste.

[Chaka-Z0]

House or car, you get heat from electricity in one of two ways, which really boil down to one, one of which is intentional and the other is not (waste).
You pass electricity through something which presents resistance to the flow of electricity, and that generates heat.
If it's a heating element, either car or home, it's not waste. But is expensive. If it's passed through a load and that generates heat, then it's waste.

Are you honestly suggesting that electric ''fuel'' for cars is more expansive than gasoline or diesel? It's not, nothing to argue there.

Well, you seem to think the main reason was acting like a dictator.

No. I was talking about McDonald Trump exonerating dictators over their slaughter of Americans and overall praising Dictators.

As for immigration, I'm not blaming him on that one, since he was elected for that and you're right one that one. What I am blaming him for is bypassing Congress with his BS national emergency.

[Chaka-Z0]

Here, that's from Forbes, and don't say it's fake news bc Trump drools over the prospect to have his face on it, so much he cooked his numbers for it.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/constan.../#577705fe10b6

[SoulReaver]

Any and all moves the King makes will not be considered a precedent, more like an incident.

hope not if the neocons do it then the Dems had better use this as a precedent so they can also do it (for a valid reason this time)

Well, you seem to think the main reason was acting like a dictator.

it is
immigration's always the nationalists' excuse to oppress their own citizens
look at how another german dictator (Hitler) used the threat of foreign invaders to get elected & in the end he treated most of his own germans like garbage

You picture a bunch of desperados jumping the wall, crossing the desert and stealing jobs.

jobs that americans dont want in the first place (not that the GOP gives a s)

Isn't the #1 priority of a leader to unite his people instead of dividing them?

King Don may suck in math but he's really good at dividing

He supported the shutdown, but actually had a thought about using presidential emergency powers in such a wide ranging view.
This is why I say there is a spark of republicanism in him still.

maybe if the next president's a Dem he can declare an emergency on environmental pollution

That is exactly why I don't like the idea of using emergency declarations on this issue

looks like GF owes me an organic free-range pasture-fed bacon sandwich

[Womble]

House or car, you get heat from electricity in one of two ways, which really boil down to one, one of which is intentional and the other is not (waste).
You pass electricity through something which presents resistance to the flow of electricity, and that generates heat.
If it's a heating element, either car or home, it's not waste. But is expensive. If it's passed through a load and that generates heat, then it's waste.

All true and all irrelevant.

Heating a car and heating a house are quite different in scale. It's expensive to continuously heat up lots of cubic meters of living space with electricity when it can be done with combustion-based central heating. But a car is a small closed space, and economics of electric heating are quite different.

[Annoyed]

Here, that's from Forbes, and don't say it's fake news bc Trump drools over the prospect to have his face on it, so much he cooked his numbers for it.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/constan.../#577705fe10b6

A few selected excerpts:

Another cost associated with electric vehicles is a home charging unit. A charger that can provide 30 miles of range an hour costs about $600. Electric vehicle chargers can be purchased from common retailers such as Home Depot or Amazon.

To make installing chargers more affordable for drivers, some electric utilities provide discounts. For example, Alliant Energy offers customers in Wisconsin and Iowa up to a $500 rebate for purchasing and installing a Level 2 home charger.

Level 2 chargers supply 240 volts which is what an electric dryer or oven needs to operate. This type of charger provides up to 70 miles of range per hour and could be purchase for about $450.

An hour charge time for 30 miles? Or even 70? Absurd.

[SoulReaver]

An hour charge time for 30 miles? Or even 70? Absurd.

correct except fast-charge batteries are coming

[Chaka-Z0]

A few selected excerpts:



An hour charge time for 30 miles? Or even 70? Absurd.

How many hours of sleep per day do you get Sir? 5-6-7? Absurdity debunked.

correct except fast-charge batteries are coming

Yup. I'd say Hybrids are the better choice right now with the current level of tech. Also give it a few years and recharge terminals will be everywhere in NA like they are in Europe.

[Annoyed]

How many hours of sleep per day do you get Sir? 5-6-7? Absurdity debunked..

Unless of course, you have to drive more than 30 miles.... Which many people do on their daily commute, let alone trips.

[jelgate]

You are assuming that the battery charges full in one hour. It does not